'I Serve Darkness': Oregon Gunman Had an Obsession with Satan, Says Source
Source: PEOPLE MAGAZINE
The Umpqua Community College shooter was obsessed with Satan and documented his devotion to darkness in a manifesto that was recovered from his computer, a source familiar with the investigation tells PEOPLE. (PEOPLE has not received a copy of this document or confirmed its existence.)
In the reported manifesto, which allegedly had "666" scrawled across it, the source says, 26-year-old gunman Chris Harper Mercer wrote in detail about his desire to "serve darkness."
"The guy did this strictly for satanic purposes," the source tells PEOPLE. "He did it to become a god in hell. He wants to be evil. That is his goal, to serve Satan." Mercer allegedly singled out Christians during his massacre, asking people to state their religion and shooting those who identified as Christians in the head.
The source adds: "The only thing I've seen that came close to this type of devotion to Satan is the 'Night Stalker' in Los Angeles," referring to Richard Ramirez, a serial killer who murdered at least 13 people over the course of two years in the 1980s.
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LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)happens daily around the World-
Iggo
(47,489 posts)Don't eat bullshit.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)the stupid 'satanic cult' crap that plagued the 90s, including law enforcement.
When the real issue is guns. And mental illness.
Not 'Satanism'.
get the red out
(13,459 posts)Absolutely
christx30
(6,241 posts)Most of them don't want to comply with treatment or take their meds. They don't feel sick. Should we have a lower standard or an easier way to commit someone before they're a danger to others?
Often times, the mass shooting is their first sign of real violence.
Thunderbeast
(3,383 posts)The current standard to compel treatment for mental illness is far too low. Civil liberties concerns are an excuse used by our society to de-fund treatment, housing, and other services. Anasognosia keeps the mentally ill from the awareness of their own condition. It is not denial, but blindness to their own suffering and the colateral damage wrought on the rest of us. We wrap our neglect in the cloak of civil liberties; Allowing people to "die with their rights on". The real goal of this strategy is to reduce our financial obligation while claiming a higher moral place in the world.
christx30
(6,241 posts)If someone is a danger, but hasn't been violent yet, more can and needs to be done to make sure they are not violent. Because when things go bad, they go VERY bad very quickly. There are warning signs most of the time. Something not quite right about a person.
But like you said, we pretend to worry about the rights of the person, while we actually worry about the cost of the treatment. Then when that person takes a gun to the school, it's too late to help him or her (though, usually him).
I dunno
(31 posts)the internet.
This is what some suggest, that getting rid of guns is no solution, they will just find other ways to do it.
I dont think so, myself.
I dont think they have the intellect or patience or whatever to go to the lengths necessary to kill multiple people without the ease of a gun.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)with the spin.
PSPS
(13,516 posts)But, hell, yeah! Let's publish this conjecture anyway and collect revenue on all those mouse clicks!!1!! We're PEOPLE magazine!11!@!
jalan48
(13,798 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)What other demons come out of your mouth?
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)Our country is fucked.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Totally Fucked....
Moostache
(9,895 posts)STOP IT!!!
STOP trying to discern "reasons" a crazy person shot dead a lot of random people he encountered.
THERE IS NO SATAN.
THERE IS ALSO NO GOD FIGHTING AGAINST SATAN.
There ARE mental health issues and access to appropriate care issues and gun control issues and access to large amounts of ammunition issues and media coverage issues that makes these sons-of-bitches into bizarre celebrities of a sick underworld population.
STOP IT!!!
If you think this is "real", seek mental help before those scary "demons" come and get you...shit like this, this kind of even-handed and "well-some-say" bullshit false equivalence is EXACTLY why a Murdering cop like Darren Wilson can describe Michael Brown as a "hulked up demon" in an official statement and NOT be charged with a crime.
IT IS BULLSHIT AND ITS GOT TO END!!
Sorry for the histrionics, but I am sick and tired of people constantly using religious bullshit to cover up or paper over the basic fact - MAN IS AN ANIMAL, AND ANIMALS OFTEN DO NOT BEHAVE IN SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE WAYS.
This cycle of shootings, momentary outrage, followed by hand wringing and constant avoidance of EVER discussing solutions to the problems of firearm availability and ammunition plenty is disgusting. If you can't help yourself and are so compelled to post such drivel, maybe waiting until the bodies are fucking cold would be more appropriate.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Thank You, Well Said!
Nay
(12,051 posts)should make every news outlet, magazine, TV news show, and talking head CRINGE SO HARD IN FUCKING EMBARRASSMENT that they die of shame on the fucking spot.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)Did you know that?
Moostache
(9,895 posts)You really think that this grisly dance around the periphery is serving some greater good?
Turning these killers into stories only encourages others who have no access to help, no support system, no anchors to reality.
This is not the only mass murderer in the last year or month....the stats say he MIGHT be the only one this WEEK.
And throwing up nonsense and speculation about an all-powerful, malevolent force as a potential "motivator" is somehow making it go away?
uhnope
(6,419 posts)I see that you at least deleted the "fuck you" part of the message. You might want to take a deep breath and give yourself a time out.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)We have been stopped at every point in trying to deal with the problem. The RWNJ's are responsible.
jpak
(41,742 posts)Trump 16
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It fits their damned party to a tee!
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,285 posts)Iggo
(47,489 posts)totodeinhere
(13,037 posts)n/t
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Belief in some aspect of Christianity is a pre-requisite to Satan worship.
Delphinus
(11,808 posts)is often overlooked.
melm00se
(4,975 posts)is not a Christian only club.
Satan (as a construct) appears in all 3 Abrahamic religions as well as others.
totodeinhere
(13,037 posts)Abrahamic religion. That's why I specified "Christian."
aidbo
(2,328 posts)I really wish the media would not, but they know what their audience wants.
Fox is already focusing on the shooters actions to further their Christian persecution memes.
I admire the Douglas county sheriff's policy that he will not say the shooter's name and Lawrence O'Donnell does the same on msnbc.
Focus on gun control legislation and the victims, don't re-traumatize the families of the victims by sensationalizing the shooter's motives.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)All it really says is, that the shooter was crazy as a shithouse rat!!!!!!
C Moon
(12,188 posts)Paladin
(28,204 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)applegrove
(118,026 posts)Delphinus
(11,808 posts)Conservative and Republican. He was also said to have been spiritual, but not religious.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Satanists like to think of themselves as non-religious, but no consistent, self-respecting atheist would spare any charity to a Satanist.
They still worship a little red man with a goatee and horns.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)That family and acquaintance did nothing about. Seems to be a common link in all these shootings.
Has there been a mass shooting recently where the shooter didn't exhibit bizarre and hostile behaviors in the lead up to the event?
Darb
(2,807 posts)Just an average good guy with a ....... errrrrrrrr.... 13 guns.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)called "TV Nation." In one of the segments he explored the stereotypical way people always seem to describe someone in their midst who turned out to be a psychopath as being "quiet" and "kept to himself."
He had an actor rent a house in a typical neighborhood and over the course of a week or so do things that would lead anyone paying attention to suspect he was doing something really weird (at best) or gruesomely homicidal (at worst).
When Moore went around to neighbors to ask if they noticed anything strange about their neighbor, I seem to recall they all were oblivious to his blatantly suspect behavior (he even left a pseudo-blood-stained mattress on the curb to be picked up on trash day).
I'm murky on all the details (the show was a while ago), but I always remember that episode whenever I hear someone say they never noticed anything unusual about a murderer.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)are already disputing the idea the shooter singled out Christians. One survivor said he was in the classroom next to where the shootings took place and he did not hear the shooter speak at all, let alone demand to know who was Christian. I'll bet the father of one of the girls who was shot and said his daughter told him before she went into surgery that the shooter had deliberately shot Christians quickly called one or two of the Christian book publishers so he could pitch a book about it.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)violence, murder, and genocide, it should be outlawed. Myths, legends, and BS dictating the lives of millions. It's absolutely incredible. Mind boggling actually.