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riversedge

(70,084 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:09 AM Oct 2015

Breaking: America Just Had Its Third School Shooting Of The Day

Source: newcivilrightsmovement.com





by David Badash
October 09, 2015 9:04 PM


On the same day President Obama visited with the families of the victims of an Oregon school shooting last week, three more school shootings took place within hours, the third just now.


Details are just coming in, but sometime after 4:00 PM local time, there was a shooting at Pepper Tree Elementary school in Upland, California, in San Bernardino County.

The school was shut down around 4: 55 p.m, KABC reports................

Read more: http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/america_just_had_its_third_school_shooting_of_the_day?recruiter_id=2

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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
1. Good thing it was "just" a pellet gun, according to that report. People are nuts. ETA, update.....
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:13 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.dailybulletin.com/general-news/20151009/woman-arrested-in-shooting-at-upland-elementary-school
Woman arrested in shooting at Upland elementary school

Police arrested a woman they had been searching for who they suspect shot her mother-in-law at an elementary school Friday afternoon.

Shortly after 4 p.m., police were called to Pepper Tree Elementary School at 1045 W. 18th St. regarding a report of a shooting, officials said.

When they arrived, the shooter was gone and the victim was in need of medical attention.

Police confirmed the weapon used was an airgun of some kind that shoots pellets rather than gunpowder-filled cartridges.....

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. Upland, California in spite of our strong California gun laws!
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:28 AM
Oct 2015
The gun laws of California[3][4] are some of the most restrictive in the United States. A Handgun Safety Certificate—now a Firearm Safety Certificate—obtained by passing a written test, is required for handgun purchases, although there are exemptions to this requirement.[5] (This requirement was extended to long guns on January 1, 2014.)[6] Handguns sold by dealers must be "California legal" by being listed on the state's Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.[7] This roster, which requires handgun manufacturers to pay a fee and submit specific models for safety testing, has become progressively more stringent over time and is currently the subject of a federal civil rights lawsuit on the basis that it is a de facto ban on new handgun models.[8] Private sales of firearms must be done through a licensed dealer. All firearm sales are recorded by the state, and have a ten-day waiting period. Unlike most other states, California has no provision in its state constitution that explicitly guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms.[1] The California Supreme Court has maintained that most of California's restrictive gun laws are constitutional, based on the fact that the state's constitution does not explicitly guarantee private citizens the right to purchase, possess, or carry firearms. However, recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions of Heller (2008) and McDonald (2010) established that the Second Amendment applies to all states within the Union, and many of California's gun laws are now being challenged in the federal courts.[9]

California Penal Code §12031 defines what constitutes a loaded weapon).

Semi-automatic firearms that the state has classified as assault weapons, .50 BMG caliber rifles, and magazines that can hold more than ten rounds of ammunition may not be sold in California. Possession of automatic firearms, and of short-barreled shotguns and rifles, is generally prohibited.

California is a "may issue" state for permits to carry concealed guns. The willingness of issuing authorities in California ranges from No Issue in most urban areas to Shall Issue in rural counties. Additionally, the issuing authority can also impose restrictions on the CCW permit-holder, such as limiting concealed carry only to the purposes listed on the approved CCW permit application. However, concealed carry permits are valid statewide, regardless of where they were issued. This creates a situation where residents in presumptively No Issue locations such as Los Angeles and San Francisco cannot lawfully carry a concealed firearm, but residents from other counties with more permissive CCW issuance policies can lawfully carry within these same jurisdictions. California does not recognize concealed carry permits issued by other states, and non-residents are generally forbidden from obtaining a California concealed carry permit.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California

Time will tell whether our stringent gun laws end these gun deaths.
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
3. update...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:30 AM
Oct 2015


UPDATE: Woman suspected in Upland school shooting with pellet gun is in custody, police report. @KNX1070
8:59 PM - 9 Oct 2015

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lbrtbell

(2,389 posts)
5. The media makes these things happen
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:43 AM
Oct 2015

They give 24/7 coverage to one shooter, then all the other crazies looking for their 15 minutes of fame decide to do copycat crimes.

The media needs to stop telling the names of these people in their reports, and limit the amount of airtime given to those reports. Make these losers realize that they won't gain notoriety and fame by shooting up a school. It's been an epidemic ever since Columbine.

Read the "manifestos" of these psychos...every time, it's somebody looking to get their name in the news. Or, as they too often say on the internet, they want to "Beat Cho's high score" (i.e., the Virginia Tech shooter).

There's simply no realistic way we'll ever get rid of hundreds of millions of guns, even if guns were banned tomorrow. It's no more feasible than the neo-cons' idea of deporting all the illegal immigrants. So taking away the "glory" aspect of these crimes would be one way of making mass shootings less desirable to fame seekers.

And--while I do NOT think kindergarten teachers should be packing heat--I do believe we need to have armed, well-trained security guards at our schools. Large amounts of money are protected by armed guards; our students' lives are far more priceless, and deserving of that level of protection. If it's good enough for Sasha and Malia, it's good enough for the rest of our kids.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
6. The President's children are wildly high-risk targets. Not exactly the same.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:43 AM
Oct 2015

Many of us have faith that by one way or another those nasty, evil, murderous guns are going to disappear, in time. Maybe they aren't nasty, evil, murderous themselves, but their owners are.

We need room for good people on this planet.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. YES. Stop giving them the publicity they seek.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:40 AM
Oct 2015

You also hit on the main problem; theres no way youre going to get rid of 300M weapons. Not to mention that criminals wont turn theirs in anyway

onenote

(42,585 posts)
13. so if somebody shoots a half dozen or dozen people
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 10:33 AM
Oct 2015

The media should put it on page B3 next to a story about a traffic accident?

And while we're at it, let's censor those nasty song lyrics and video games and books with depictions of violent acts (Let's ban In Cold Blood).

No. Hell. No.

 

solar Max

(54 posts)
7. Must have been a day ending in "y"
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:10 AM
Oct 2015

Not "why?" We already know that: Most of our politicians are gutless cowards!

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. Terrible. And the variation in the 3 incidents should be noted
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:10 AM
Oct 2015

These three attacks got mentioned because our attention is still heightened following the UCC shooting. But even a cursory look at the reports, which must be taken as preliminary and subject to error, suggests that these 3 incidents are not much like the UCC shooting.

This is an attack of a daughter on her mother... little information has been provided, but it was a pellet gun, not a firearm.

The Texas attack involved an attack of 3 men on two men... there is a suggestion that this shooting was motivated by another shooting days earlier near the same location that had caused only minor injuries.

The Northern Arizona U attack followed a confrontation between two groups, with the shooter acting out a revenge for an alleged beating by the shooting victims.

Three attacks aren't anything from which to make sweeping generalizations. But they do suggest multiple exceptions to the stereotypes that recently drove public comments and suggested policy making that scapegoat all these school shootings on the mentally ill are too narrow to address many of these violence acts



 

WhiteHat

(129 posts)
14. God save us from our well-armed "protectors."
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:14 PM
Oct 2015

Here's where any sane person would begin the discussion of gun violence:

Zero guns = Zero gun deaths.

You want "some" guns, then decide how many gun deaths you're willing to live with. We already know how many people will die, the statistical evidence is public knowledge. Just decide how many deaths is okeydoke with you.

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