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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:01 AM Oct 2015

Clinton's Support Slides Ahead Of First Democratic Debate

Source: Associated Press

Reuters By By Alana Wise | Reuters – 6 hours ago

By Alana Wise

(Reuters) - Just days before she will take the stage in the first Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton's lead over rival Bernie Sanders has narrowed, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

Clinton's support among Democratic voters fell 10 points within less than a week.

From October 4 to October 9, Clinton saw her support tumble from 51 percent of Democratic support to just 41 percent.

Her nearest competitors, Vermont Senator Sanders and Vice President of the U.S. Joe Biden, who has yet to decide whether he will run, both made gains. Support for Sanders jumped from just over 24 percent to 28 percent, and Biden rose from 16 percent to a even 20 percent in the same time period.

Read more: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/clintons-support-slides-ahead-first-democratic-debate-221936118.html

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Clinton's Support Slides Ahead Of First Democratic Debate (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
K&R! Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #1
People don't like Hillary because of authenticity issues but, applegrove Oct 2015 #2
Well, even the establishment needs its "humorists". delrem Oct 2015 #5
Yes, but her arithmetic is wrong Demeter Oct 2015 #7
+100000 azmom Oct 2015 #28
That was one of the shittiest most cynical POS lines ever. Do I want a Machiavellian president? Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #9
I don't mind a Machiavellian President as long as they're working for ALL of us. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #10
If they were truly Machiavellian they would never work for anybody BUT themselves tularetom Oct 2015 #27
If he/she were being Machiavellian to work towards average American interests which would... stillwaiting Oct 2015 #13
Maher has trouble understanding that... JackRiddler Oct 2015 #31
I thought he said a president who moonscape Oct 2015 #33
not in the least bit surprised marym625 Oct 2015 #3
HRC's support falls TWENTY PERCENT in less than ONE WEEK Divernan Oct 2015 #4
well it's hard to blame her for that last bit because the party's been selling the idea that MisterP Oct 2015 #23
People just don't trust the Clintons. It's not that she's incompetent she's just not charismatic craigmatic Oct 2015 #6
I doubt it. We'll see a lot of failed triangulation and whining Demeter Oct 2015 #8
My prediction? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #11
Yet she's still in front. These polls a year before elections are utterly useless. YAWN Laser102 Oct 2015 #12
A year? Try three months. Reter Oct 2015 #16
And just wait until she finally gets in the public eye at the debate. SoapBox Oct 2015 #14
Bernie will be our next President madokie Oct 2015 #15
Why don't you? Plenty of prediction sites... brooklynite Oct 2015 #19
Exactly! Hillary will be our nominee. n/t SylviaD Oct 2015 #24
Perhaps but she will never, ever be President of these United States. Purveyor Oct 2015 #25
Is that a wish or a threat? onehandle Oct 2015 #34
"threat"? What the fuck are you talking about? eom Purveyor Oct 2015 #36
Speak for yourself. JackRiddler Oct 2015 #32
My Dad is stronger than your Dad, neener, neener, neener still_one Oct 2015 #30
10 points in one week? Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #17
Could be Biden's stalling to see the poll numbers after the Debate.... KoKo Oct 2015 #26
It's getting on my nerves for sure TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #35
K N R Faux pas Oct 2015 #18
"Slide"? The same poll had her at 40% in mid-September. How about.... George II Oct 2015 #20
It's about people being informed by the media Babel_17 Oct 2015 #21
but she is picking the "correct" positions restorefreedom Oct 2015 #22
Slip sliding Away azmom Oct 2015 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #37

applegrove

(118,613 posts)
2. People don't like Hillary because of authenticity issues but,
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:45 AM
Oct 2015

as Bill Maher said on his show tonight, you wouldn't want a president who wasn't calculating.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
7. Yes, but her arithmetic is wrong
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 06:48 AM
Oct 2015

What point is there in hiring a dyscalculiac for President?

dys·cal·cu·li·a: severe difficulty in making arithmetical calculations, as a result of brain disorder.


Only this disorder is in the heart and mind, I think.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
9. That was one of the shittiest most cynical POS lines ever. Do I want a Machiavellian president?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:10 AM
Oct 2015

No. I don't.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. I don't mind a Machiavellian President as long as they're working for ALL of us.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:35 AM
Oct 2015

And not just on behalf of themselves and their rich buddies.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
13. If he/she were being Machiavellian to work towards average American interests which would...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:06 AM
Oct 2015

... necessitate working AGAINST Wall Street and the global financial elite by not giving them everything their greedy hearts desire then I might welcome that President.

That is not the case in HRC's situation. She's playing us (not the financial elite) in my opinion.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
31. Maher has trouble understanding that...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:03 PM
Oct 2015

"Calculating" and "lying sack of shit" are distinct characteristics.

Someone who thinks it's the same to be canny as to be a liar (at any rate, a person incapable of caring what's true and what's not) is a good definition of a sociopath.

Birds of a feather!

marym625

(17,997 posts)
3. not in the least bit surprised
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:09 AM
Oct 2015

It's too much, this sudden change of support/disagreement on so many important issues right before the debate. People are seeing through it.

That and the more people are of Sanders, the more they love him

#FeelTheBern

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
4. HRC's support falls TWENTY PERCENT in less than ONE WEEK
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:25 AM
Oct 2015

That ten points, from 51 to 41 represents TWENTY PERCENT OF HER SUPPORTERS, in less than one week. The comments following the article rip her to absolute shreds, which is exactly what would happen to her as the Democratic candidate in the general election. The comments are much more focused on her perceived lack of consistency, honesty, humility and integrity than on the email controversy.

Her falling numbers are quite astounding, considering how high her ratings were when she started pouring all the millions she's had at her disposal into her campaign. It's like some nouveau riche arriviste has bought a huge mansion, but lacks the self-confidence to furnish/decorate it herself, or even settle on one designer. So she hires a different consultant for each room and the result is elaborate, ostentatious chaos.

The Clintons have a more-is-better view of life. More consultants, more unpaid "interns", more posh fundraising soirees, more private jet travel, etc. Quantity over quality. Style over substance.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
23. well it's hard to blame her for that last bit because the party's been selling the idea that
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 01:04 PM
Oct 2015

"if there's a sizzle there has to be a steak. VOTE STEAK" since even the late 80s

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
6. People just don't trust the Clintons. It's not that she's incompetent she's just not charismatic
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 06:06 AM
Oct 2015

enough to cover up for her short comings. On the bright side if she manages to win she'll probably be tough enough to give republicans hell still I just don't trust her on the issues not to turn her back on her base.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
11. My prediction?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:37 AM
Oct 2015

If she wins, we'll see a lot of 'working across the aisle', with more crap sandwiches hailed as significant 'victories' and a continuation of trickle-down policies. Oh, and more war.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
34. Is that a wish or a threat?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:51 PM
Oct 2015

You really think the KKKlown KKKar can beat her?

Which member, exactly?

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
17. 10 points in one week?
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 09:02 AM
Oct 2015

Criminee, that campaign isn't leaking, it's hemorrhaging. ONE week? I honestly have never seen a campaign in a free fall like this. This won't get better for her. It's almost certain Biden will have to jump in how if the DNC is going to save their Paid Shill program.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
26. Could be Biden's stalling to see the poll numbers after the Debate....
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:43 PM
Oct 2015

All this "Will He...Won't He" and broadcasting his "grief issues" (valid as they are) is starting to get on people's nerves, though.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,172 posts)
35. It's getting on my nerves for sure
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 09:02 PM
Oct 2015

but I'm beginning to think he's only going to enter the race if HRC implodes. He probably doesn't see the point of 2 centrists running against each other, and frankly, I don't really think he wants it. I think Beau's deathbed request may be the only reason he's even considering it

The one thing I'll say for him is that I don't think the GOP hates him like they hate Hillary; that white hot burning hate of a thousand suns.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. "Slide"? The same poll had her at 40% in mid-September. How about....
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 10:36 AM
Oct 2015

....Sanders' "slide"? He was at 30% in this poll a few weeks ago.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll is all over the place, and they release a "rolling average" every few days. Not accurate at all.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
21. It's about people being informed by the media
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:06 AM
Oct 2015

It's about people being informed by the media that maybe the media was less than 100% correct about Secretary Clinton being inevitable. It's now OK for people to listen to other candidates, who, by the way, are actively campaigning.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
22. but she is picking the "correct" positions
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

and adapting her campaign to be what she thinks people want. she is willing to talk like she set aside her procorporate attitudes temporarily and pretend to support what the progressives want

jeez, how picky can some people be?









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