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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:45 PM Oct 2015

CA governor signs bill automatically registering residents to vote when they get a driver’s license

Source: Raw Story

California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill on Saturday that will automatically make residents eligible to vote when they go to the DMV to get a driver’s license or renew their old one.

According to the Sacramento Bee, the bill will allow the state to register everyone as a voter unless they opt out.

California joins Oregon as the only two states to proactively register people to vote unless they decline.

According to California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, the move comes after voters set a record-low in participation in last year’s election.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ca-governor-signs-bill-automatically-registering-residents-to-vote-when-they-get-a-drivers-license/

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CA governor signs bill automatically registering residents to vote when they get a driver’s license (Original Post) IDemo Oct 2015 OP
Great move, Governor Brown! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2015 #1
I think they should be registered when they are born. Then get a BD card each year from the state... jtuck004 Oct 2015 #2
I love it! SunSeeker Oct 2015 #17
Great. Now we just have to make sure people are registered at the right address. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #3
I don't think that would be such an issue on major elections. Since that would only be able to vote LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #6
Sounds like a great idea. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #7
What needs to happen is for someplace like Stanford or MIT of UC Berkley to get a grant for a LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #9
Thanks. Sounds great. Can you do it? JDPriestly Oct 2015 #10
I think once a president and congress get behind a universal system and a peer reviewed uni LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #15
It could have already been done, they just don't want to. Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #25
bad bad idea questionseverything Oct 2015 #33
Awesome idea! C Moon Oct 2015 #11
I think the USA would have been a much better country today had Brown won in 1992. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #4
For sure. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #12
I think they should hold a primary schedule lottery Yupster Oct 2015 #27
Good idea! JDPriestly Oct 2015 #28
Agreed! C Moon Oct 2015 #13
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #5
Very cool passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #8
? Igel Oct 2015 #29
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #14
Still only for DL. We need automatic registration AllyCat Oct 2015 #16
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #18
Good work, Jerry! I voted for you when you ran for president. nt valerief Oct 2015 #19
great move Gov. riversedge Oct 2015 #20
I believe another state does this too. Lets get all the states to follow Browns lead. rladdi Oct 2015 #21
That "other" state is Orygun, the "American Oasis" DrBulldog Oct 2015 #23
Two Governor Browns, two motor-voters laws! DrBulldog Oct 2015 #22
As long as they don't stick non-citizens on the voting roll... mwooldri Oct 2015 #24
Illegal immigrants get drivers licenses in California. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #26
Sounds like a republican talking point to me philosslayer Oct 2015 #47
That's what I figured you would say. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #53
you've been here 1 month and you know all about them? CreekDog Oct 2015 #57
I'm sorry, do I know you? philosslayer Oct 2015 #58
We'll see if it matters. Igel Oct 2015 #30
Too bad you don't provide a link to back up your assertions lunatica Oct 2015 #32
This just plainly a stupid policy Leontius Oct 2015 #31
Voting is a right not a privilege, maybe you should learn the difference CreekDog Oct 2015 #34
If you are not registered you can't exercise that "right" Leontius Oct 2015 #35
your post is why you're at four hides in less than 90 days CreekDog Oct 2015 #37
Wow didn't know I had another online stalker. Leontius Oct 2015 #40
It's not stalking to read your public profile CreekDog Oct 2015 #42
My transparency page is not public. Leontius Oct 2015 #44
The number of hides you have is on your PROFILE page CreekDog Oct 2015 #45
Nice try Leontius Oct 2015 #46
here is your profile page, available to all members: CreekDog Oct 2015 #48
Let me get this straight. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #55
You will find quite a lot of posters with that mindset Leontius Oct 2015 #59
Really! Lychee2 Oct 2015 #54
If the truth is insulting, then don't blame me CreekDog Oct 2015 #56
Just the kind of drivel I expect from you. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #60
You've been here one month and you know me too? CreekDog Oct 2015 #61
Dumb. Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #38
I hope not all of the laws you pass. Leontius Oct 2015 #41
do tell us which ones we shouldn't like CreekDog Oct 2015 #43
Don't move here. Problem solved for all. Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #50
So people should take time off work to register each time they move? Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #49
You don't seem to know what you're talking about, automatic registration is the norm for democracies CreekDog Oct 2015 #52
Good. So how do we get people off their rear ends and getting their ballots in? Retrograde Oct 2015 #36
So good! What a spectacular idea. Thank you, IDemo. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2015 #39
what about all those who don't want or get license but only state ID? nt grasswire Oct 2015 #51

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,528 posts)
1. Great move, Governor Brown!
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:48 PM
Oct 2015

This should be implemented everywhere, especially in red states, where the right to vote is under attack.

K&R

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
2. I think they should be registered when they are born. Then get a BD card each year from the state...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:05 PM
Oct 2015



Only 17 more years until you can vote.

Congratulations, and Happy Birthday!.
...




Only 16 more years until you can vote.

Congratulations, and Happy Birthday!.
...



JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. Great. Now we just have to make sure people are registered at the right address.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:10 PM
Oct 2015

They are supposed to change their licenses, but you never know.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
6. I don't think that would be such an issue on major elections. Since that would only be able to vote
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:33 PM
Oct 2015

where the dl address is. What would be nice with electronic voting machines would be able to go anywhere in the state and pop in your drivers license and the ballot for your precinct would pop up, you vote and the fact that your dl has voted. Which would mean you could not vote again.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
9. What needs to happen is for someplace like Stanford or MIT of UC Berkley to get a grant for a
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 06:10 PM
Oct 2015

universal voting machine app. It should be simple to write, the ones that are hard are the programs that can be manipulated. My spec would be that it would fetch the ballot for the voter (wherever in the country they are registered), display ballot, take input, and return the reponses to the local from which they received the ballot. Maybe keep a record, but the main thing would be get the ballot info and return results in real time over secure connection. This is important as most of the fraudulent voting have been fro massaging the results based upon how many people voted for x or y or z and changing the votes to reflect that x always has 10% more than y and z totaled. Easy math. But if totals are not kept in the machine but in a certified server in each state and that severs software never changes for the election and the raw data that comes in from each voting machine can be verified. things would wok out.

Think of the voting machines as a dumb terminal like used to be used on main frame computers. Everything would be transaction based much like ATM machines are.

Simple as pie. someone has to do it.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
15. I think once a president and congress get behind a universal system and a peer reviewed uni
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 06:36 PM
Oct 2015

does the work, it will happen. Since There is a federal system that can access all the drivers license info and then a central system, it would be hard to manipulate an election since nothing can be done at a local level to change the election. It works for ATMs and debit cards and credit cards, no reason not to work for elections.

We as a country just have to decide to have fair elections.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
33. bad bad idea
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

totally takes the overseeing of elections out of the peoples hands and places that control in corporate hands

look at the software problem with vw

if we are ever to have free and fair elections local control, supervised by local citizens is the only answer

the system you describe would be a "trust me system",much as we have now but bigger and worse

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
27. I think they should hold a primary schedule lottery
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:16 PM
Oct 2015

each four year so the first states would be different each cycle.

Igel

(35,275 posts)
29. ?
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 10:24 AM
Oct 2015

"California joins Oregon as the only two states to proactively register people to vote unless they decline."

?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. Kicked and recommended!
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 06:33 PM
Oct 2015

Someone did something right! They did something in the interest of the people and democracy! Shocking! Yay!

rladdi

(581 posts)
21. I believe another state does this too. Lets get all the states to follow Browns lead.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 07:37 PM
Oct 2015

It would save millions to the states, save time, travel and lots of effort to those that need an ID to vote. Let's make America a real Democracy and give everyone the right to vote. How about it Republican Governors?

mwooldri

(10,301 posts)
24. As long as they don't stick non-citizens on the voting roll...
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 08:21 PM
Oct 2015

... then fantastic

I mention this as a permanent resident.... here in NC I've been summoned to perform jury duty... which I would be happy to do but as a non citizen I am not legally permitted to do so. Happened twice. Why did this happen? The county pulls the records from the state's driver's license database.

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
26. Illegal immigrants get drivers licenses in California.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 09:01 PM
Oct 2015


200,000 illegal immigrants had California drivers licences as of April, 2015. I hope all the DMV registrars will be alert to the difference between the licenses for the undocumented (R) versus those for citizens (L).

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2015/04/07/3643779/ca-drivers-license/
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
58. I'm sorry, do I know you?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015

Have we been properly introduced? You certainly have developed an opinion of me. Is it "me"? or "us"?

Igel

(35,275 posts)
30. We'll see if it matters.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 10:30 AM
Oct 2015

Pretty much voter turnout's dropped as we've gone from one-day in-person voting only at your home-precinct with long waiting periods to quick turnaround, extended voting, mail-in and provisional voting, and with early voting at any precinct in the jurisdiction.

As we've made voting easier and easier, people value voting less and less. The usual complaint is to point to minor roll-backs in the ocean swell of "making things easier," missing the primeval forest for the stray twig blocking our view.

(While, at the same time, hearing complaints about "low information voters" and such, coupled with calls for coerced voting.)

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
31. This just plainly a stupid policy
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 11:27 AM
Oct 2015

Last edited Sun Oct 11, 2015, 02:59 PM - Edit history (1)

If you can't be bothered enough to register yourself then you don't deserve to vote.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
35. If you are not registered you can't exercise that "right"
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 08:43 PM
Oct 2015

and if you can't drag your ass to the registrar's office you're not involved enough in our democracy and don't deserve to exercise that "right".

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
37. your post is why you're at four hides in less than 90 days
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 12:05 AM
Oct 2015

and at the rate you're going, seeming to act as though you want a fifth.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
42. It's not stalking to read your public profile
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:37 PM
Oct 2015

you knew that.

nice try at trying to make others think you didn't.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
44. My transparency page is not public.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 05:08 PM
Oct 2015

So my hides are not shown on my profile pages. You know that.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
46. Nice try
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 05:52 PM
Oct 2015

Wrong answer. No problem, internet stalking is no crime until you start making threats but it is strange.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
48. here is your profile page, available to all members:
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:05 PM
Oct 2015

right here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=243381

me clicking that little icon next to your name, in your post, is not stalking.

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Lychee2

(405 posts)
55. Let me get this straight.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:42 AM
Oct 2015

The authorities have hidden some of his posts, so that discredits everything he says? That is an absolutely fascist mind-set.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
59. You will find quite a lot of posters with that mindset
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:22 PM
Oct 2015

Unusual for a so called liberal group, well I used to think it was .

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
60. Just the kind of drivel I expect from you.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:22 PM
Oct 2015

The issue isn't truth; it's validity. To make a logical point, your conclusion must be relevant to the premises. So your post is a non sequitur.

But never mind. I don't expect you to understand any of that.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
61. You've been here one month and you know me too?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:03 PM
Oct 2015

Your name has 2 in it. Are you the sequel to something?

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
49. So people should take time off work to register each time they move?
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:14 PM
Oct 2015

Even if it means going hours or a day without pay? Even if it means getting fired?

Persons with mobility issues should go through the time and expense to get themselves to the clerk's office instead of availing themselves of reasonable, verifiable alternatives like the new CA law?

Think about.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
52. You don't seem to know what you're talking about, automatic registration is the norm for democracies
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:11 PM
Oct 2015

in the developed world, not the exception.

Voter registration is automatic in (partial list):

Chile
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
France
Iceland
India
Israel
Italy
Norway
Sweden

Retrograde

(10,130 posts)
36. Good. So how do we get people off their rear ends and getting their ballots in?
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 09:06 PM
Oct 2015

We already have early voting, vote-by-mail on request (and anyone can sign up to be a permanent mail voter), voter applications available at the DMV, post offices and libraries, sample ballots sent out to all registered voters telling them where their polling places are, among other things - and people still can't be bothered.

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