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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:19 PM Oct 2015

Biden Says He Won't Run For President, A Boost For Clinton

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Joe Biden declared Wednesday he won't run for president in 2016, ending a months-long flirtation with a third White House campaign and setting him on a glide path toward the end of his decades-long political career.

Biden's decision bolsters Hillary Rodham Clinton's standing as the front-runner by sparing her a challenge from the popular vice president.

In an extraordinary appearance in the White House Rose Garden, Biden said he always knew that the window for a viable campaign might close before he could determine whether his family was emotionally prepared for another campaign so soon after the death of his son Beau from brain cancer in May. Biden said his family was prepared to back him, but that he nonetheless would not be a candidate.

"Unfortunately, I believe we're out of time," he said, flanked by President Barack Obama and Biden's wife, Jill.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_BIDEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-10-21-14-38-24

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Biden Says He Won't Run For President, A Boost For Clinton (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
"I believe we're out of time". Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #1
Also on MSNBC. femmocrat Oct 2015 #2
"while I will not be a candidate I will not be silent". n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #3
good decision. nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #4
It's a great sacrifice mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #57
Biden is a dying breed.... dawnie51 Oct 2015 #6
Thanks for not turning our own party into "Clown Car v2.0". bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #7
Thank you for making my point cilla4progress Oct 2015 #28
Let's not get complacent. There's a long way to go, and a lot razorman Oct 2015 #69
Great speech! Auggie Oct 2015 #8
"but I will not remain silent" brooklynite Oct 2015 #9
The only sensible choice at this juncture... nt Blasphemer Oct 2015 #10
I figured as much. It would be odd to jump into the campaign this late in the game. nt Quackers Oct 2015 #11
The election is over a year away.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #22
I think it depends on the dynamics of the race Blasphemer Oct 2015 #33
Limbaugh or Hannity could get those kinds of numbers. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #39
Have you seen this poll site? I think it's really interesting. snappyturtle Oct 2015 #68
+1. Nt JudyM Oct 2015 #34
His heart wasn't in it Cosmocat Oct 2015 #44
Well, Joe you have the ball--with the WH in the background riversedge Oct 2015 #12
Good decision. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2015 #13
The media will have a sad BumRushDaShow Oct 2015 #14
Joe's doing the right thing not running uawchild Oct 2015 #15
Odd that this announcement comes a day before Hillary's hearing. Lychee2 Oct 2015 #16
Well done, Mr. Vice President! Glorfindel Oct 2015 #17
Hillary's 50 State Lead Just Got Bigger! onehandle Oct 2015 #18
Hello there Madam President! OKNancy Oct 2015 #19
Add 20 plus points to all Hillary polls! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #37
Thank Goodness youceyec Oct 2015 #67
Hillary looks great in white and her hairdo is just right wordpix Oct 2015 #41
51 states now? n/t eggplant Oct 2015 #46
+1 stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #47
Good man... 63splitwindow Oct 2015 #20
well its all on bernie now restorefreedom Oct 2015 #21
+1 n/t LittleGirl Oct 2015 #55
Good decision. Beacool Oct 2015 #23
I'm happy he made a decision and got this off his back. gateley Oct 2015 #24
Video of Biden's announcement... PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #25
YES!!! calimary Oct 2015 #26
he would make a great Sec. of State in a Clinton or Sanders admin (nt) SteveG Oct 2015 #32
Indeed he would, but he has grandkids now TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #50
Agreed on this as well. calimary Oct 2015 #62
Well, he certainly has the relationships built - some of them over many years. calimary Oct 2015 #61
That's right... Gloria Oct 2015 #64
Thank, God. cilla4progress Oct 2015 #27
Logical. Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #29
Ha Ha Fox is wrong again! Earlier this week they said he "would run for President" kimbutgar Oct 2015 #30
Yesterday most people here were full of sneering condescension towards him, TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #31
Hillary's poll numbers are going to SKYROCKET now!! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #35
A wise decision, I believe. DinahMoeHum Oct 2015 #36
His heart just was not in it Cosmocat Oct 2015 #45
this is why all the media putting him in the polling is co,plete BS Keep-Left Oct 2015 #38
I really hope people take your wise advice workinclasszero Oct 2015 #42
I'm relieved. Thank you, Joe wordpix Oct 2015 #40
If it's something you're doing only because you're honoring your son, then I'm glad Joe backed out. EndElectoral Oct 2015 #43
VP Biden he was my second choice. stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #48
Good NobodyHere Oct 2015 #49
Hillary not to be indicted? Geronimoe Oct 2015 #51
He must have made the deal to be SOS randr Oct 2015 #52
We'll see...he's no spring chicken and that job is Gloria Oct 2015 #66
Bill Kristol, wrong again. PADemD Oct 2015 #53
Either he will be Secretary of State or be drafted NYCButterfinger Oct 2015 #54
Clinton will explode with popularity about the same time the GOP implodes! Which may be tomorrow. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #65
Good decision. V.P. Biden has given his career to us. Paper Roses Oct 2015 #56
Good! Rafale Oct 2015 #58
Thank you Vice President Biden! We need you involved in this key election, but not as a candidate. Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #59
I like him TOO MUCH for him to run. annabanana Oct 2015 #60
Love you VP Biden, now you're free-give them hell please! Sunlei Oct 2015 #63
Looking forward to his third term. L. Coyote Oct 2015 #70
In one sense I'm sorry he isn't running - it would have been fun when he repeated his 2008 debate... George II Oct 2015 #71
Republicans are having a sad.... riversedge Oct 2015 #72

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. "I believe we're out of time".
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

"The time necessary to run a winning campaign for the nomination".

"We will be making a tragic mistake if we attempt to undo the Obama legacy...... Democrats should run on this record".

Response to mainstreetonce (Reply #5)

dawnie51

(959 posts)
6. Biden is a dying breed....
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:22 PM
Oct 2015

a statesman. I like him, but the time is past, as he mentioned. He will be remembered with grace for this decision.

cilla4progress

(24,727 posts)
28. Thank you for making my point
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:52 PM
Oct 2015

so much more effectively and succinctly than I!

His running would have besmirched not only his own career, but our party's right now, which is projecting an adult, unified message.

Plus, thinking of his family. Watching Jill behind him in the rose garden ... So sad. I'm sure they are relieved.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
69. Let's not get complacent. There's a long way to go, and a lot
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 08:06 PM
Oct 2015

can happen. If anything causes Hillary Clinton to fold her campaign, it will be a free-for-all on the Democratic side. I do not expect that to happen; but if it does, it will make the Republican circus look like a knitting-circle.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
33. I think it depends on the dynamics of the race
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:01 PM
Oct 2015

A republican could easily jump in now. The leading candidate is Donald Trump and he's polling at 25%. The "serious" candidates are polling very poorly. Very different than what's happening in the Democratic race.

BumRushDaShow

(128,892 posts)
14. The media will have a sad
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

because they were gearing up and chomping at the bits to destroy him and the party - i.e., he has already been down this road twice before and based on that last time in 2008, they would have immediately tried to drown him in their "gaffe machine" crap.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
15. Joe's doing the right thing not running
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

It's nice, considering his recent personal loss in the death of his son, that he gets some extra media time to restate his values and aspirations for America as his time in public office draws to a close. A decent man -- and I mean that as high praise.

 

Lychee2

(405 posts)
16. Odd that this announcement comes a day before Hillary's hearing.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:27 PM
Oct 2015

Obama and Biden must be sure she's going to do OK.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
20. Good man...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

and just hope all of his vicious detractors of one sort or another who dare call themselves "patriots" get everything they so richly deserve some day.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
21. well its all on bernie now
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:34 PM
Oct 2015

to stop the corporate owned clinton third way, mic machine.

he can do it...go bernie!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
24. I'm happy he made a decision and got this off his back.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:43 PM
Oct 2015

I just wanted him to do what HE felt was best, and knew I'd have mixed emotions either way.

Now, on to Bernie and Hillary!

calimary

(81,220 posts)
26. YES!!!
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

So he goes out in 15 months - from the second-most-powerful job in America and the second-most-powerful position on earth - with a legacy that will prove to be second to none. He won't be down in the mud, getting messed up, bruised and bloodied, with that being the way we all remember him.

Thank you, Joe. Thank you for your service, Mr. Vice President. And thank you for your lifelong dedication to all the good things.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,175 posts)
50. Indeed he would, but he has grandkids now
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:44 PM
Oct 2015

For what he's been through, I wouldn't blame him a bit for enjoying his retirement. SOS requires a lot of travel.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
62. Agreed on this as well.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:37 PM
Oct 2015

He's PAID for it. He's paid more than the normal load of dues. He's paid in tears and loneliness and heartbreak. You really just can't help but love the guy. And I look at Jill Biden and I'm so glad he found her and has a strong and brilliant woman like her at his side. I'm glad they found each other. I want him surrounded by love and respect throughout the rest of his remarkable life.

On the other hand, if he got into the mud pit, he'd just emerge damaged, dirtied up, bloodied, and beset with attacks and attackers. And that would be the last thing people remember about him - the fighting, the acrimony, the mud-slinging, and the shitty things the GOP would say about him that would stick in people's minds. This way, he gets to step away in 2017 as a respected elder statesman with head held high and his persona unassailed, his legacy untarnished. He deserves at least that much.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
61. Well, he certainly has the relationships built - some of them over many years.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:32 PM
Oct 2015

I would hope he still makes a contribution. Understanding him in what limited way I do, I'd guess he'd want to continue to "serve," even if it's closer to the sidelines than to the top of the ziggurat.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
64. That's right...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

We can forget the things he said or did that we didn't love, but we can appreciate the MANY good things he
represented!!

Godspeed, Joe!!

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
29. Logical.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:54 PM
Oct 2015

Given that Hillary's numbers are looking better post-debate, and what with McCarthy stepping on his crank re: Benghazi, and Bernie's lancing of the Serverghazi boil, the party establishment doesn't see the need to bring in an alternate.

Good news for Hillary, too. Joe would have taken his gains from her pile, mostly. Not great news for Bernie, though. Ah well.

kimbutgar

(21,131 posts)
30. Ha Ha Fox is wrong again! Earlier this week they said he "would run for President"
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:54 PM
Oct 2015

Another discredited Fox reporting.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
31. Yesterday most people here were full of sneering condescension towards him,
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 12:54 PM
Oct 2015

and now are patting him on the back.

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
36. A wise decision, I believe.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:11 PM
Oct 2015

Between his age,
his decades in the House and Senate,
and now 2 terms as VPOTUS
plus
too many personal family tragedies,
I just don't think the guy's got that "fire in the belly" anymore that is so essential for a POTUS campaign.

I wish him and his family well in all endeavors when his and Obama's terms end.

 

Keep-Left

(66 posts)
38. this is why all the media putting him in the polling is co,plete BS
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:14 PM
Oct 2015

Trying to make the Dem race seem closer than what it really was. With Biden out the polling will be in a landslide for Hillary.

Now we need to bring everyone back together. Stop attacking Hillary. She will be our nominee! Still support Bernie & his message but the truth is Hillary will be the nominee so stop helping the Republicans by attacking Hillary.

Biden thank you for all you have done!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
40. I'm relieved. Thank you, Joe
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:21 PM
Oct 2015

He's a great guy but he ran for pres 2x already and lost big. He was a huge asset to this admin. Thank you, Joe!

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
43. If it's something you're doing only because you're honoring your son, then I'm glad Joe backed out.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:32 PM
Oct 2015

A President needs energy and a real drive to not only get elected, but to fight for his agenda every day. When Joe said he wasn't sure he had the energy, I was hoping he'd not even attempt to run.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
51. Hillary not to be indicted?
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:47 PM
Oct 2015

Is this a signal that Hillary won't be indicted for email server? I suspect that is the only reason Biden was going to enter the race, if Hillary couldn't run.

Gloria

(17,663 posts)
66. We'll see...he's no spring chicken and that job is
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:52 PM
Oct 2015

thankless!

I'd love to see him talk about issues closer to home and help THIS mess of a country become a better place!!

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
54. Either he will be Secretary of State or be drafted
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

to run for president if Hillary Clinton implodes with more emails in the winter. We'll see.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
56. Good decision. V.P. Biden has given his career to us.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:05 PM
Oct 2015

He has given so much and has suffered so much. The time has come for him to enjoy the rest of his life with family and friends. Enough of the horrible political environment.
Thank you Mr Vice President for all your good work.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
59. Thank you Vice President Biden! We need you involved in this key election, but not as a candidate.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:26 PM
Oct 2015

Regardless of who wins the nomination, we will not be able to fight the limitless Citizens United funds that the plutocrats will stuff into the Republican coffers without your help in perpetuating and expanding upon the Obama-Biden legacy!

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
60. I like him TOO MUCH for him to run.
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 02:32 PM
Oct 2015

YOU know how we treat our candidates.. they ALL get roughed up pretty good, and I, for one, am glad he and his family will not be subjected to the process.

George II

(67,782 posts)
71. In one sense I'm sorry he isn't running - it would have been fun when he repeated his 2008 debate...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 09:25 PM
Oct 2015

....statement slightly altered.

About Sanders, he could have said "every sentence of his has a noun, a verb, and an oligarch".

riversedge

(70,197 posts)
72. Republicans are having a sad....
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:42 AM
Oct 2015



.....Biden's decision gives Clinton a boost heading into her testimony Thursday before a Republican-led House committee investigating the deadly attack on Americans in Benghazi, Libya, three years ago. With Biden out of the race, Clinton's campaign sees the hearing as a final hurdle before she can fully focus on early voting contests in Iowa, New Hampshire and elsewhere.

For many Republicans, Biden's decision comes as a disappointment. Party leaders had all but cheered his potential candidacy, eager to see the Democratic race thrown into chaos and perhaps distract attention from a GOP primary that's been roiled by the rise of unorthodox candidates such as Donald Trump and Ben Carson.

Trump praised Biden and took a poke at Clinton in a single tweet: "I think Joe Biden made correct decision for him & his family. Personally, I would rather run against Hillary because her record is so bad."
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