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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:28 AM Oct 2015

Sen. Sherrod Brown endorses Hillary Clinton for president

Source: Cleveland.com

.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown, an Ohio Democrat, is endorsing Hillary Clinton for president.

Brown's endorsement could matter among Ohio primary voters next March as Clinton vies with Bernie Sanders for the party's nomination. Brown has long embraced the progressive label, taking positions more often affiliated with colleagues such as Sanders, of Vermont, and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts than with moderates such as Clinton.

Yet as she campaigns for president, Clinton has called for some of the same safeguards and protections as Brown, particularly with her recent opposition to the pending Trans Pacific Partnership.

She also recently called for getting tougher on financial abuses and excessive risk-taking by banks, supporting regulatory or legislative changes that could affect the nation's largest depository institutions.

Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2015/10/sen_sherrod_brown_endorses_hil.html

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Sen. Sherrod Brown endorses Hillary Clinton for president (Original Post) sufrommich Oct 2015 OP
11 hours youceyec Oct 2015 #1
This puts Senator Brown as possible VP choice... Herman4747 Oct 2015 #2
He would be a great VP choice. nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #4
Sherrod Brown would a be a good VP choice Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #7
I HATE to lose that senate seat though Hawaii Hiker Oct 2015 #10
Agree! peace13 Oct 2015 #12
Yes, that would be painful. nt valerief Oct 2015 #14
Sherrod and Hillary are opposites. senz Oct 2015 #19
Correct me if I am wrong... Blasphemer Oct 2015 #24
He's always stood out for me as one of the best. senz Oct 2015 #25
Consider this. Brown knows Hillary and you don't. upaloopa Oct 2015 #31
No they aren't. He took her money in 06, and her husband stumped for him during his last run. MADem Oct 2015 #40
That's because Bernie IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!!!!! Walk away Oct 2015 #47
Possible, certainly. Or maybe a cabinet post. Or maybe just a chummy role in the Senate. MADem Oct 2015 #28
Mrs. October. Historic NY Oct 2015 #3
TPP Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #5
Big disappointment. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #6
Bummer - I Always Thought Of Him A Good VP Choice For Bernie.....nt global1 Oct 2015 #8
And I had him pegged Plucketeer Oct 2015 #13
K & R Iliyah Oct 2015 #9
Aaaaaaaa........ peace13 Oct 2015 #11
You might spell the man's first name right, if you're going to be on such intimate terms. MADem Oct 2015 #29
Sorry for the typo. peace13 Oct 2015 #32
I'm not 'judging' you--I am making a determination based on your input to the conversation. MADem Oct 2015 #38
It's always about the money. peace13 Oct 2015 #42
HRC fired up that PAC when she was a Senator--she used it to help deserving candidates MADem Oct 2015 #44
Thank you for explaining the math so well, MADem. Sen Sherrod Brown! Cha Oct 2015 #48
Absolutely right MADem mcar Oct 2015 #49
I wish Dems would not endorse during primaries. SpankMe Oct 2015 #15
Good thing your opinion doesn't hold sway! All these endorsements are super delegates, by and large MADem Oct 2015 #30
Figured he'd do it while it was still worth a little something BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #16
Traitor! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #17
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #18
This is an excellent endorsement mcar Oct 2015 #20
Siding with the Big Money/Big Power Entrenched Establishment. SoapBox Oct 2015 #21
He took Hillary's money for his campaign. So did Sanders. MADem Oct 2015 #45
Sanders took Hillary pac money?!!!!! WTF! LOL. Good Grief! Cha Oct 2015 #50
2006. He was happy to take it. She gave money to dozens of people running that year. MADem Oct 2015 #52
Is somebody running for the cabinet? I don't think one less Democratic Senator is a good thing. marble falls Oct 2015 #22
He's repaying a debt--he is loyal to his friends. MADem Oct 2015 #39
You need to realize that Ohio is a purple state. Bernie can't win there. NYCButterfinger Oct 2015 #23
They went for Obama in 2008 and, iirc, 2012. senz Oct 2015 #26
Yes! The Obama campaign worked tirelessly here! peace13 Oct 2015 #33
As a volunteer for OFA, I was impressed senz Oct 2015 #34
It would take all of that. peace13 Oct 2015 #37
Ouch. onehandle Oct 2015 #27
We'll fight on. senz Oct 2015 #35
Bernie should just go ahead and join the crowd, endorse Hillary and get this over with. DCBob Oct 2015 #36
He has too much love and respect for the people of this country senz Oct 2015 #41
I was being facetious. DCBob Oct 2015 #43
Great news! It's amazing how many folks are endorsing so early!!!!! Walk away Oct 2015 #46
Thanks, su! Sen Sherrod Brown.. Ohio! Cha Oct 2015 #51
 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
2. This puts Senator Brown as possible VP choice...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:32 AM
Oct 2015

...which has the significant advantage that he comes from a populous, toss-up state (Ohio).

I believe that Senator Brown has been one of our better senators.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
7. Sherrod Brown would a be a good VP choice
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:50 AM
Oct 2015

...in terms of helping Hillary Clinton to win.

But it would be sad to watch a progressive defend her policies. We had to watch Al Gore defend NAFTA, and we'll have to watch Sherrod Brown defend similar trade deals.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,165 posts)
10. I HATE to lose that senate seat though
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:56 AM
Oct 2015

Whether its President Clinton or President Sanders, won't be much good without at least a Democratic senate....

Replacing a senator in CA, HI, NY is easy, but getting another senator, especially one as Progressive as Sherrod Brown from such a swing state is near impossible task...

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
12. Agree!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:13 AM
Oct 2015

It will also leave a huge hole in Ohio. We have undergone such gerrymandering that we will never get a Dem to replace him. In fact Ohio recycles Dems that have been defeated to try and fill current openings. We got nothing! Our candidate for Governor was done before he started and our SOS resigned to run for an office that she did not win leaving us in the hands of yet more rethugs. Go figure. The fact that Strickland is running again tells the story.

Senator Brown. Is an awesome person who knows right from wrong. My best to him always!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
19. Sherrod and Hillary are opposites.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:47 PM
Oct 2015

She's all sold-out corporate while he supports the people 100%, a true progressive.

I wonder what happened behind the scenes to get him to make such a horrible choice?

I hate watching my country go down.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
24. Correct me if I am wrong...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:51 PM
Oct 2015

But while certainly reliably progressive, I've always seen him as a "party guy." And, the party has clearly made up its mind and is currently decidedly lining up behind Clinton. I'd be shocked if there were many defectors at this point. Especially now that the MSM is talking as if Clinton is already in the White House. There are jobs to be had in a Clinton admin.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
25. He's always stood out for me as one of the best.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015

I've never thought of him as merely a "party guy," but if by chance he is, that could explain it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. No they aren't. He took her money in 06, and her husband stumped for him during his last run.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:07 PM
Oct 2015

He knows who his friends are--the ones who HELP him win elections.

Sanders has never given him a dime, or the time of day campaigning.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. Possible, certainly. Or maybe a cabinet post. Or maybe just a chummy role in the Senate.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:30 PM
Oct 2015

Never hurts to be a Friend of the White House on the Hill.

In any event, I am sure this endorsement is irritating a few people.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
5. TPP
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:48 AM
Oct 2015

People betting that Hillary Clinton won't flip-flop again to support the TPP (if she's president and it hasn't already passed) or support similar trade deals with ISDS (special courts corporations can use but environment groups can't) are going to be disappointed.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
9. K & R
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:52 AM
Oct 2015

Ummmmm, where have I heard "Flip Flop" before, oh yes, this was used against the Democratic Party's Nominee, John Kerry from yours truly, W and the GOP Party.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
11. Aaaaaaaa........
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:03 AM
Oct 2015

Senator Brown it's the first time I've questioned your judgment. Wow. Hill and Sharrod, two people worlds apart. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. How he came to that one I will never understand!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. You might spell the man's first name right, if you're going to be on such intimate terms.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:33 PM
Oct 2015

It would seem you don't know him as well as you think.

This endorsement is NOT a surprise at all to those who have followed his career. This is expected.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
32. Sorry for the typo.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:38 PM
Oct 2015

He is actually my Senator. His daughter went to school with my son. I will forgive your judging me. He is a good person and is the one bright star here in Ohio.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
38. I'm not 'judging' you--I am making a determination based on your input to the conversation.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:01 PM
Oct 2015

To anyone studying the HILL (and by that I mean the House and the Senate, not the Presidential candidate), this endorsement is the OPPOSITE of a surprise.

Hillary Clinton's HILLPAC has donated to Sherrod Brown's campaign. WAY back in '06. She's had his back for a while, now.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00363994&cycle=2006

If you look real close, you'll see she ALSO donated the same max contribution to Bernie Sanders' campaign.

How much money do you think Bernie Sanders ever donated to Sherrod Brown's campaigns?

I will save you some trouble--zip, zero, nada, none.

But let's be fair--maybe he didn't have any cash to spare--some people don't have a lot of money, so they express their support in other ways, like endorsing, doing personal appearances, whipping up enthusiasm among donors, etc. There are other ways to help a "good friend" besides giving them cash.

How many times do you think Sanders has stumped for Brown, encouraged his supporters to donate to him, helped him in any way?

Again--zip, zero, nada, none.

Bill Clinton took time out of his schedule to campaign on behalf of Brown during his last election.

People are loyal to those who HELP them.

This is not really very much of a surprise at all.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
42. It's always about the money.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:23 PM
Oct 2015

Good that Clinton has enough to share. It's easy to see how she gets it. As far as President Clinton campaigning for Brown, that isn't always a plus. Should Hillary be the nominee you will find that he may actually work against the goal. This of course is an opinion. Should she become president you may have yet another problem.

My best to you. May you always be as certain as today.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
44. HRC fired up that PAC when she was a Senator--she used it to help deserving candidates
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:30 PM
Oct 2015

for both the House and the Senate. Sanders, Brown and dozens of others benefitted from HILLPAC.

She didn't HAVE to do anything--she could have just sat on her best intentions and only worried about herself, but the minute she hit the Senate, she was working to help people win elections--including Bernie Sanders.

And yeah, it IS about the money. Until Citizens United goes away, it most definitely IS about the dough-re-mi. Anyone who plays the "I'm above all that" game is, in effect, saying "I'm running a vanity campaign but I'm not telling my supporters." It is flat-out impossible to win without Big Money. Sure, you can do rallies on the cheap, you can pray that the corporate media might cover them (thirty seconds of a half hour news broadcast), and you can take to the internet and get people who like "underground" style efforts all fired up, but that's not sustainable and it doesn't bring in sufficient numbers of the marginally interested or the POTUS-contest-only voters who stagger out once every four years to pull the lever.

Commercial air time is EXPENSIVE. With cable, it costs more because you have way more bases to cover. Radio is cheaper than TV, but both get very dear indeed the closer we get to November 2016. The prices JUMP in markets that are gearing up towards a primary. It eats up a MASSIVE portion of the campaign budget, and without help from PACs, airing those "Policy ads" that put a candidate's face and views out there and persuade people to vote for that person just ain't happening. And those ads? They WORK.

mcar

(42,272 posts)
49. Absolutely right MADem
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:15 PM
Oct 2015

It's not "only about the money." It's also about support and campaigning. This is an insular world, whether we like it or not. Support breeds support.

SpankMe

(2,955 posts)
15. I wish Dems would not endorse during primaries.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 11:31 AM
Oct 2015

They all ought to wait until the nominee is determined and then go full throttle with support at that time. If a Dem officeholder endorses a candidate now, but then another candidate wins the nomination, then I feel it's awkward to re-assign their endorsement to another individual.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. Good thing your opinion doesn't hold sway! All these endorsements are super delegates, by and large
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:35 PM
Oct 2015

Senators, representatives, governors, state party leaders....they have a say in who gets nominated.

And it's becoming abundantly clear that they prefer Clinton OVERWHELMINGLY.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. He took Hillary's money for his campaign. So did Sanders.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 06:32 PM
Oct 2015

I guess you could say they were siding with the Big Money/Big Power Entrenched Establishment when they both did that way back in 2006.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. 2006. He was happy to take it. She gave money to dozens of people running that year.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:42 PM
Oct 2015

She was very generous.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
39. He's repaying a debt--he is loyal to his friends.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:04 PM
Oct 2015

HRC donated to his campaign. Her husband campaigned with and for him the last time around.

Sanders hasn't given him a dime, OR stumped for him.

Who's he gonna call?

No brainer.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
33. Yes! The Obama campaign worked tirelessly here!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:43 PM
Oct 2015

It was awesome effort on the part of many. It will take organization and commitment....and of course dollars. It takes committed people from out of state to canvas door to door to get the job done and that's a lot of feet!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
34. As a volunteer for OFA, I was impressed
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:49 PM
Oct 2015

by the energy and professionalism. It was awesome.

I hope to God Bernie will have that. But I do know he has tremendous enthusiasm from a lot of good Americans.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
37. It would take all of that.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 03:58 PM
Oct 2015

We still had a lot of Hillary die hards during the first obama run. Things were pretty ugly with the hangers on. If Bernie makes it we will have that again. I imagine they will be pretty inconsolable.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
41. He has too much love and respect for the people of this country
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:07 PM
Oct 2015

to desert us at this point in the game. He has already said he will support the nominee if it's not him. But he's in it for us, not for himself. You may find it unimaginable, but not everybody sells out, Bob.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
43. I was being facetious.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 05:24 PM
Oct 2015

I suspect Bernie will stay in campaign regardless to keep his message out there.

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