US warns Netanyahu against unilateral steps in East Jerusalem
Source: Ynet
"If it was true it would certainly be of concern to us," State Department spokesman John Kirby told a daily briefing.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said that the Israeli government is not yet actively considering this change, as far as the American government knows.
Earnest said that given the current wave of violence, the US wants to reiterate the "importance of all sides avoiding provocative actions and rhetoric."
Netanyahu brought up the need to address the situation in East Jerusalem's neighborhoods beyond the separation wall during a cabinet meeting that took place two weeks ago.
Read more: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4716732,00.html
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BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Netanyahu, like his predecessors, does what he wants. They US sometimes says "we are concerned" but then ignores whatever action Israel takes. The US rolls over. There are no consequences for bad behavior. Netanyahu knows this and acts accordingly.
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6chars
(3,967 posts)One of the key leaders of the anti-Israel campus movement.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)frizzled
(509 posts)I wonder if they'll even rate a US expression of concern. What's a bit of ethnic cleansing when political donations are at stake?
6chars
(3,967 posts)I don't agree with the proposal, but it is not ethnic cleansing. No one is getting moved, imprisoned or killed under this proposal. It is NOT ethnic cleansing. Trying to rile people up with false charges simply creates more division and conflict.
frizzled
(509 posts)This is a man who last week claimed that Hitler wasn't all that bad.
6chars
(3,967 posts)TRUE: Netanyahu is proposing to revoke Arabs' residency permits.
FALSE: It's ethnic cleansing.
FALSE: This is a man who last week claimed that Hitler wasn't all that bad.
VERDICT: FAIL
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Until the grand mufti (a Palestinian) said burn them, don't be a holocaust revisionist, Israel's leader (NutyYahoo) said thats what happened. If anyone knows what happened during the holocaust it would be the leader of Israel, right? If not it's a blood libel.
Its a sick world we live in. You might spend more time on regime change in Israel instead of defending them, the apartheid state and it's obviously mentally sick holocaust revisionist leader are a train wreck.
6chars
(3,967 posts)I try to be objective.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Was he misunderstood, in his statement. Has he corrected his record. Would anyone be better versed in the history of the holocaust than the leader of Israel?
Personally I understand Hitler was a real evil guy and didn't need any encouragement.
6chars
(3,967 posts)He was implying that the Grand Mufti was not only supportive of the Holocaust, but also was a key factor in its direction. This excuses neither the Grand Mufti nor Hitler. If you are asserting that Netanyahu would not hold Hitler responsible, that is silly.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)It was the Palestinian who suggested to kill them. That's a blood libel if not true.
6chars
(3,967 posts)Mufti promised Arab support for Hitler in exchange for a promise to continue the war against the Jews in the Middle East after he was done with Europe. He made clear that he welcomed anything that would keep Jews from coming to the Middle East as refugees, and he suggested they be kept in the camp in Poland. He visited concentration camps in Poland with Adolph Eichmann. So, the best you can say is he wasn't the one who gave Hitler the idea of killing the Jews, he was just a collaborator. It would be wrong to blame all Palestinians for his actions. On the other hand, there is a real intellectual lineage - Mufti was one of the founders of the PLO, Arafat's uncle, and often revered by the PLO and Hamas, both of whom continue to have a zeal for anti-Semitism that goes beyond mere nationalism.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)What was the point in bringing up a long dead historical figure, a Palestinian, and peg the final solution as his idea. Something he clearly did?
I am really surprised your carrying water for this well documented REPUBLICAN Ally who has done all he can to humiliate President Obama. REPEATEDLY
6chars
(3,967 posts)to disparage current Palestinian nationalist leadership through presumed connection with historical leadership and its presumed actions.
There is plenty to criticize Netanyahu for. This includes his injecting himself into US politics probably to the detriment of both US politics and Israel. But I think the criticism should be based on facts and not hyperbole. Same for anyone. I see a lot of the criticism of Netanyahu does not distinguish between any factual basis and the critic's own conjecture. For example, "because he loves to kill babies, Netanyahu ordered IDF to bomb an arms cache in Gaza" is type of comment we see a DU sometimes.
I would not say such a thing, and it is not carrying his water to challenge such an assertion. In this hypothetical comment, the second half might well be true, and it might (in one recent case did) result in the death of a young child. The decision can surely be criticized. But the first part of the hypothetical comment would be pure fantasy on the part of the commenter - there are many more plausible reasons why a commander-in-chief (such as Obama?) or a military under his command might order a bombing that resulted in civilian deaths. Only if the rules of the game are "I can make up any old thing about Netanyahu and pretend it's true" is that reasonable." Some folks play this game, and extend the rules to "I can make up any old thing about Israel and pretend it's true." Other people play the same game with different targets. Generally, the truth is better. Commenters can make a distinction between what part is factual and what part is their assumption. The people who don't like the truth are those who want to get others riled up. I don't believe in that game. The track record of people who deceive in order to get others riled up is not good. I plead guilty to carrying water for truth.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)No you're really not.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)ethnic cleansing, it's a FREEDOM NOTICE.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Revoking Arabs residency permits sounds like a step in the ethnic cleansing process to me. And it's pretty clear what Netanyahu said.
6chars
(3,967 posts)no one has said anything about deportation, jailing, killing, etc., the stuff of ethnic cleansing.
Netanyahu did talk about revoking residency permits.
This is intended to limit their ability to enter other parts of Jerusalem where Arabs have carried out terrorist attacks. I don't agree that this is the right reaction to the terrorist attacks. There ought to be something less restrictive on so many people. It can be criticized on this basis.
But the idea that this is about ethnic cleansing is invented in your own mind (and supported by like-minded people who generally will believe any horrible motive attributed to Netanyahu. I know how exciting it would be for so many supporters of the Palestinian cause t see this erupt into an all-out civil war, and so how desirable it is to make everything sound as extreme as possible. but I think that would be bad.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.[1] The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration (deportation, population transfer), intimidation, as well as mass murder.
Ethnic cleansing is usually accompanied with the efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes, social centers, farms, and infrastructure, and by the desecration of monuments, cemeteries, and places of worship.
But thanks once again or carrying it for Bibi the baby kiler.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Know them by their works.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)There are no consequences for pushing the Palestinians around. None. Zero consequences.
So duh, he's going to keep doing it.
And just as planned, hostilities will persist.