The Labour party has gone completely off the rails.

and we sure as hell don't need it in AMERICA either

The Trotskyists all figjt each other. There will be a Socailsts people's front, a Peoples Front For Socialism, and a Popular Front For Socialism.

Good luck!

https://twitter.com/Gerdowning/status/506007540165931008
https://twitter.com/Gerdowning/status/623479672098193408
https://twitter.com/Gerdowning/status/661892024212262912
https://twitter.com/Gerdowning/status/707486233753038849
https://twitter.com/Gerdowning/status/634980390273286144
https://twitter.com/Gerdowning/status/685037867010113536

swine he is. Deserves any condemnation he gets.

He in no way represents the views of the vast majority of Labour Party members. I'm sure there's plenty of idiots in the Democrat party too.

Don't try to blow this out of all proportion.

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But everyone else on this thread seems to have. He is one solitary member, he has no official position and he was kicked out. He's been let in on appeal but we don't know anything about the appeal. We don't know what was said, if his views have changed, we don't know anything. This is the Tories making mischief by seeking out the blog of one solitary nutter. That's all it is.

Would you like the Democrat party to be judged by the blog of its weirdest member?

If I were British I would have no party.

The free world does not need fascism/communism/marxism/trotskyism, etc......

Thanks for posting that. I hope people can see that this is a non story, that someone whose views do not represent those of the Labour Party has been kicked out pretty quickly. This is just Tory mischief making.

i think Labour does have a much wider problem with the return of a great many cranks, oddballs, wierdos, CT's and downright unpleasant people that the party had previously managed to get rid of.

it is connected to the Corbyn thing - its not Corbynites are all nutters and loons, but in practice it is very clear that the rules, procedures and attitudes that the Corbyn lead and favouring internal party structures have encouraged and allowed - along with large numbers of very normal, very decent people into the Labour party - a cohort of people we'd previously got rid of, or who had been refused membership, into the party.

my branch chair, and all of the other CLP officials i've spoken to, have said that the Party structures no longer allow the CLP's to warn off the central party about 'undesirable elements' because the central structures don't want what they see as non-Corbynite individials (whether they are or not..) acting as a bar to Corbyn supporting members. those central structures are simply not interested, and infact they see any attempt to warn the central structures about particular individuals as an attempt to subvert the leadership.

it is that paranoid, and that poisonous.

its up to you as to whether you think the party machinery is cynical enough to think that it doesn't matter how obnoxious an individual is as long as they vote Corbyn in the next leadership vote, or whether you think that the party leadership is happy to flood the CLP's with loons and wierdos if that provokes a proportion of the CLP officials who keep non-Corbynite MP's in their seats to leave in disgust and frustration.

you're right, it is the Tories making mischief - but who gave them so much ammunition?

I'm not overjoyed with his performance so far. However, I think these individuals are only a tiny proportion of the new influx. Most were decent people turned off by Blair's love affair with Bush.

Despite not voting for Corbyn, (I voted for Burnham,) I do think he's a decent enough bloke, and smart enough to realise that what may be good for him is not necessarily good for the party.

In the end it boils down to results. Each election is a test and if any of them aren't positive he'll be on notice. I understand that if May's council elections don't go well there'll be a rebellion, although they might wait until after the referendum to get the knives out.

Long live Trotskey!

Gerry Downing is quoted for, that the 9/11 suicide bombers "must never be condemned". This is where it was taken from:

... It is the justified outrage of the oppressed as opposed to the outrage of the oppressor, one violence is that of the slave and the other is that of the slave-owner. One is progressive, no matter how distorted its actions are, and must never be ‘condemned’, imperialism is the violence that holds the whole planet, or almost the whole planet, in thrall, and that violence can never be supported by serious Marxists in any circumstances. That is the dilemma the conspiracy theorists seek to avoid. That is the entirely understandable motivation for 9/11 and suicide bombers. You may object that it is entirely counter-productive for their case and has so much the opposite effect ...

doesn't help. He's a lunatic.