so now you might have actual Bernie Liberals trying to work with a .. oops this happened 2009-2010. Liberal Obama tried to work with Conservative Dems. Didn't work. And they got booted in 2010 . Seems they still haven't learned their lesson too Some of them have but Clair ouch

No thanks. I'd like a different approach. The status quo is untenable, and Third Way is now a dead end.

I must have struck a nerve there.

a spring chicken.

Is Hillary not white?

Should we click our heels together three times?

Here's a good one.

by censoring them on internet.

during the primaries.

Instead of eight years of the birther/communist/closet Muslim stuff, it will be back to the lesbian/witch/murderer schtick.

They realized that Bill Clinton remained popular in spite of their personal attacks, and because they gave him conservative policy bills that he signed, he earned the trust of the financial elite and showed that corporate Democrats could be the trusted tool of the wealthy once too much of the Jim Crow loving base of the GOP died off for them to be a viable option at the national level.

Gotta use our heads, people.

It's almost as if Bill's trying to sabotage her campaign.

A key phrase was edited out of his remarks.

This is what he actually said:

"If you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we've finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that where we were practicing trickle-down economics with no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for ,” the former president said on Monday.



This type is what was edited out:

"before that where we were practicing trickle-down economics with no regulation in Washington"



Any thinking person without an anti-Clinton agenda can clearly see that he was referring to repug obstructionism and trickle down, no regulation, repug pollicies.

This is about the tenth thread from Sanders supporters pushing this lie. And I understand Bernie himself actually tweeted this.

Guys, please stop accepting, believing and spreading these smears and hurting your credibility.

Unless he was talking about how much the Cubs suck, which is true.

drop in and out of being "working poor" . The Federal Reserve issues a report saying 47% of the people couldn't pay a lousy $400 bill -

"The survey results reveal a lack of economic preparedness among many adults. Only 53 percent of respondents indicate that they could cover a hypothetical emergency expense costing $400 without selling something or borrowing money. Thirty-one percent of respondents report going without some form of medical care in the past year because they could not afford it." - http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/other/20150527a.htm

Most of the nation is losing one of its primary forms of saving as people can no longer afford much of the housing... http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/household-formation-led-by-seniors-baby-boomers-household-formation/

If you want some more help in realizing that we are just as complicit as any repub, read Obama's pick for a Treasury Secretary, the Republican Timothy "Killer" Geithner'si, and his book "Stress Test". His plan - is our current policy - leaves tens of millions in poverty while making his thieving bank$ter/jihadist friends wealthy, a policy of this administration - which we were lied to about, told that it was necessary to save the country. Because of that we are starting to resemble the economics of a plantation community instead of a democracy.

And if you think not, feel free to watch his interview of the book, in which he tried to lie his way out of what he said, only to have an audience of voters repeatedly laugh at Killer's his face.

I wonder what they will think when they vote?

It was a rare moment of political honesty - it's a wonder Clinton didn't choke on them.

un-debunked?

and very much dislike President Obama, this applies to a very large number on this board.

helps their ego...

Randos everywhere.

Timmy was first to start the hilarity over *INCOME INEQUALITY* here-

Three Former US Treasury Secretaries- Geithner, Paulson, Rubin, and a Former Treasury Staffer and Facebook Exec., Sandberg Laugh It Up About Increasing *INCOME INEQUALITY* when they've become filthy rich off it. Milken Annual Conf., Bev. Hills, CA, April, 2015.

I get it.

Unfortunately for you, the Cubs don't suck.
Las Vegas has them as the odds on favorite to win it all this year.

Which means they're cursed not to win it again this year.

Obama's domestic policies? Domestically, the US has been propped up by the war legacy so it really becomes quite confusing.

He may be referring to the neocon policies when he talks about the seven years preceding the eight years of awful legacy, but since Obama's domestic policies have a seven year history, not eight, the most likely reference is the Great Recession, which began eight years ago, and its long-term consequences.

If you are still trying to make up your mind, Clinton's spokesman made this clear.

I find that hard to believe.

the seven years after Bush squandered Clinton's surplus

But if you give a fuller quote, you will see how disingenuous your argument is:

"The problem with that beautiful picture of the future is that today, most Americans can stare at that picture, and they cannot find themselves in it to save their lives. Why? Because at the time of the crash eight years ago, most Americans were living on less than they were the last day I was in office. Now, since the crash, 80% of the American people have still not gotten a raise. And that’s entirely predictable. For 400 years, every financial crash takes about ten years to get over. We beat the timetable on the jobs, we’ re lagging on the incomes. And there are lots of reasons for that."

Not only was that remark complimentary to Obama (OK, he complimented himself just as much), but it left absolutely no room for interpretation as to which eight years Bill was talking about.

seriously think that Bill has become so demented that he would compare Obama's Presidency with that of GWB?

you would think that such a savvy politicians with decades of experience would have looked at the speech and penciled in the words "GOP obstructionism" after "last eight years".

Hillary will get no more traction with republicans in congress than Obama did. Bill's lying through his teeth pretending Hillary can.

and say she is not living in the real world, rather than "lying".

Bernie's not living in the real world?

Of course, the line forms at the impeachment window.

Not that they'll be enthusiastic about working with a 'socialist', either.

my life might be better

Here is the quote:

It's either a naïve ignorance, or an outright lie that she can produce any traction with a republican congress.

But I also read that as a smear against the Obama admin directly, in its entirety and in context.

They really believe "supply" creates jobs.

--imm

How many times will this right-wing crap get posted?

policies in place.

We added about 9.2 trillion to the national debt in the last 8 years. It is at $19 trillion up from $9.8 trillion when President Obama took office. >104% of GDP.

Corporate profits are at an historic high while workers wages as a share haven't been this low since 1929.

We have 46 million living in poverty, our schools anf infrastructure are in decay and the middle class is spiraling down the toilet

There goes the last shred of respect I had for that asshole.

Not to mention the Telecommunications Act.

Alan Greenscum
and Welfare to Work
and the repeal of Glass-Steagal

.....

and never ever even thinking about "the blue dress" that I got to have pounded into my brain

Go home Bill indeed!

Well, Bill is learning from one of the all-time greats

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/bill-clinton-pedophile-pal-jeffrey-epstein-sex-video-nude-pictures/

Third Way!

No More Clintons EVER!

He doesn't really have any credibility on this.

I think Hillary would compromise and move to the right, and specifically in the area of economics, as you also noted. She'll be fine on women's rights/health care, etc. But bad on foreign policy, and bad on economics, in the sense of centrist, or even center-right.

There's only so much the president can actually do, but POTUS does set the tone/agenda, and that matters.

Selective editing in this video. Clinton refuted the Right Wing reading of this and stated he was criticizing the GOP.

He would have said something like "Put the Awful Legacy of the Last 6 Years of Republicans Behind Us"

selective hearing?

but this reminds me why I really think Elizabeth Warren missed her Obama type opportunity to be President. Her policies are somewhere in the middle of Bernie and Clinton, and I honestly think she would have beat Hillary in the primary. I think its sad when the candidate you support will most likely win a primary, and you still can't get excited about her candidacy. After hearing her speech to AIPAC, it just reminded me of why I feel like my back is against the wall in supporting her. I would have loved to have heard what Warren's speech to AIPAC would have been if she even attended at all. To all you Hillary folks, I'm a Hillary supporter, but I honestly think we deserve better. And to all you Bernie supporters, I think its clear Bernie should have moved more to center, like Hillary moved to the left, so folks like myself and probably the majority of Democrats who may have wanted to support Bernie's candidacy, would have been much more comfortable with his major policy proposals, especially on healthcare. I'm disappointed those are our only two options as Democrats. Going back to the days of the Clintons with reminders like Monica Lewisky and impeachment, or a dramatic shift left to a Democratic Socialist platform that the majority of Democrats don't support. I just think with Warren we could have gotten the best of both worlds.

Heresy.

I love Bernie for the principled stands he takes, but if you want to lead the majority, then sometimes you have to move towards them instead of making them move towards you. Its why Hillary moved to the left.

has proposed will end up to the right of where they start. To the right of where I would like them to be but maybe exactly where you would like them to end up.

Nobody, especially Bernie supporters think he can get everything he proposes. My problem with Hillary is that I don't believe she even wants most of what she proposes.

She's center-right.

Bill Clinton Throwing Barack Obama Under The Bus. For the second damn time as every African-American in America remember the Fairy-Tale Moment in South Carolina.

This is why the Clinton's CANNOT be trusted. Bill Clinton is a smart man and these are NOT FREUDIAN SLIPS. He means exactly what he said - now twice over at nearly the same time in a Presidential race about Barack Obama - displaying what should be called BECAUSE IT IS - White Privilege.

some brain cells are flaking away. Note the craziness of the Massachusetts polling interference.

I don't wish that on anyone, but having a Presidential candidate with a spouse who is mentally degenerating, I wonder why someone in Hillary's campaign is not assigned to be a caretaker.

just sayin'.

The one Bill is not referring to? Or the one that right wing James O'keefe wannabes desperately wants to seem like Bill is referring to?

How many Hillary bashers here would even consider the possibility he wasn't clear?

No, it was very clear to them - Guilty! Judgments being passed left and right!

How many of them made an effort to find out what they are talking about BEFORE they started throwing mud around?

The shame is on those left wing zealots who deploy the proven and tested right wing echo chamber smear tactics.

You sure your post belongs in GD-Primaries?

there is more to life.

The video was deceptively edited by asshole liars, and you are reposting it.

Great fucking job.

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/03/no-bill-clinton-did-not-describe-obama

No where does he infer anything about GOP obstructionism.
This is pure spin.

But he does tie the awful 8 years to the previous 7 years where trickle down economics prevails (I'm paraphrasing).

So CrooksAndLiars is just accepting the spin from Hillarys' staff, and saying it's been debunked. Shame on them!

Your Hillary-hatred is warping your reason to the point where Drudge is your truth-teller.

Clearly you sincerely believe that Hillary hates everything Obama has done, that Bill was directly insulting Obama because that OF COURSE is smart politics for Hillary, that the Clinton campaign sees a path to the White House through smearing the legacy of a popular Democratic president --

Oh yes, this is sooooo logical. So real. Yes, let's assume Hillary is fucking evil, hates Obama, and is the WORST HUMAN BEING EVER, it's all just impeccable logic, really, let's just smirk and eat up some more of that Ratfucking Right-Wing Slop.

Ridiculous. You're being ridiculous, intellectually dishonest, and you're not helping any progressive cause whatsoever.

But carry on. Carry on.

What pathetic reasoning skills.

Pretend that the GOP is not the problem to smear Democrats.

Please proceed.

Interesting right-wing spin.

is that we should not smear other democrats,
but completely disregard the fact that Bill
just landed a huge smear on Obama's presidency.

Which last I checked, Obama is a Democrat.

How many times did Bill mention Obama or the Obama administration?

Does it even occur to the Hillary haters that the Obama legacy is seven years old and Bill is talking about an eight year legacy?

Please refer to the calendar and look up the awful events that happened eight years ago and whose awful legacy is still upon us...

You did.

Own it.

and there is no need to cling to how close

hillary is to Obama

For those who were sure turn it around.

Meanwhile the AUDIO is clear as a bell -- and the AUDIO comes from CNN, not a Right Wing Website - re-recorded by Independent Underground Radio LIVE - with the only edits cutting out the silence-- here:

Bill Clinton on Barack Obama Legacy March 21 2015 - IURL

...obstructionism. If you see something else there, perhaps you just don't understand.

I apply Occam's Razor and more than 15 years experience with the Clinton's and the answer is obvious. Unless you have a powerful bias against the Clintons...

Come on, let's use our heads.

The Audio? Talk about Cognitive Dissonance.

Maybe lack of cognition by some.

Guess he didn't think that he had to spell out that he was referring to the last eight years of repug obstructionism.

Some people have hinted that maybe Bill is losing it upstairs, but he's not dumb enough to alienate Obama fans, a huge part of the dem electorate, especially since — HELLO — Hillary's not running against Obama.

"I am a great speaker and charismatic speaker..." and on and so forth. ----> Bill Clinton On Barack Obama in 2008 & 2016 - March 22, 2016-IURL

It's pretty obvious he's talking about repug obstructionism.

Hillary is not running against Obama so why would anyone think he's going after Obama?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

That she is closer to their ideology than Obama?

I wonder if Sanders is getting any traction from this in the elections?

and accused Clinton of Obama bashing based on that piece of right wing propaganda.

Now it's a matter of backpeddling or doubling down. Either one is a loser for Bernie, but his supporters seem to prefer the latter.

In fact, "Impeachment" with be the new "Obamacare" as it will be symbolically voted for at least 70 times.

The last 8 years have been shameful. The way republican's in congress and republican governor's across the nation have treated the president is absolutely disgusting. The way these same republican's have acted to oppose any effort made by President Obama to make government work for the good of the people is outrageous. They have done all they can to make a mockery of our government. To illustrate that government doesn't work republican's have made sure it can't work. No wonder then that this election is so bizarre. We have two parties where one candidate is opposed by its own established inner workings. We may laugh at how the other side is tearing itself apart but it's no different on our side. Both sides struggle to rebrand themselves. So few stepped up to run at all, and why should they after witnessing the way President Obama has been treated? If democrats maintain the white house the next four years will not change republican obstruction no matter who the nominee is and we need to stop pretending one would be more successful than the other. The only thing that makes republican's see more red than President Obama is mention of the Clintons. But I'm sure they'd make a great show of purposefully misunderstanding the term democratic socialist. What better way to convince voters that government doesn't work? Republican's suck.
Whoever wins needs to remember that when bargaining with republican's to ask for more than they desire so they meet in the middle. Seriously, starting with reasonable only favors the right.

Sure, R's may be running with it, but these are words spoken directly by Bill Clinton. Unless there's a secret Republican operative behind him with a gun demanding Bill say these things, it is not a Republican ratfucking.

Dont' be duped by out of context talking points for the other side, just as non of us believed any of the out of context things said about Bernie in recent months. It's all a sideshow. Its tone is getting laughable though at this point, so forgive me if I'm having some fun with it.

Full 45 minute speech linked. The message is one of inclusion and republi obstructionism. Of course, he feels Hillary is the best person to bring Americans together. That is his crime apparently.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017342247#post32

What the flip is wrong with people here?

The one Bill is not talking about?

I am questioning your assumption that Bill was referring to the aforementioned Obama and his administration...

I am not usually serious, but I can be... sometimes... when circumstances absolutely demand it.

"If you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we've finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that where we were practicing trickle-down economics with no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for ,” the former president said on Monday. ""

And in addition to that:: The GOP Congress only had power the last six years - so I think Bill did indeed speak his mind, his aide was just covering up afterward. The Clinton's are well known for that.

"I can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and still have support!"

Who said this?

Claim: (so in so) believes that business owners do not deserve credit for the success of their business.

Quote: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." (so in so, stump speech in Roanoke, Virginia, July 13, such in such year)

Quote in Context: "There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn't -- look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

Care to offer a guess?
Was it Bubba? Was it Hillary? Was it Bernie?

Google and find out.