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WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:11 PM Mar 2016

Police recommend charges for gun lovin' mom shot by 4-year-old son

Source: cbs

PALATKA, Fla. --Police are recommending a misdemeanor charge for the mother of a 4-year-old boy who got a hold of her handgun and shot her as they were riding in a pickup truck.

Putnam County Sheriff's Capt. Gator DeLoach said Tuesday that Jamie Gilt put a loaded gun underneath the front seat and the weapon slid into the back where her son was riding in a booster seat on March 8.

Authorities said the child had recently learned how to unbuckle himself and picked up the gun.

The boy fired through the front seat, hitting his mother in the back. She was brought to a hospital for treatment, but DeLoach wasn't sure if she is still there.

Police say they are recommending a charge of allowing a child access to a firearm.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-recommend-charge-for-mother-shot-by-4-year-old-son/

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Police recommend charges for gun lovin' mom shot by 4-year-old son (Original Post) WhiteTara Mar 2016 OP
hasn't she suffered enough? MariaThinks Mar 2016 #1
No. WhiteTara Mar 2016 #3
No. He could have just as easily pointed that gun at himself. Lochloosa Mar 2016 #4
Not even close duhneece Mar 2016 #10
Not even remotely. Crunchy Frog Mar 2016 #13
Nope, could have been the child Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #15
Or a person in the next car nt elljay Mar 2016 #18
this one? no Skittles Mar 2016 #19
Nope. She should be charged. TDale313 Mar 2016 #30
"If they find it, they'll play with it" stone space Mar 2016 #2
Good one! RKP5637 Mar 2016 #27
NRA~GOP policy "a Gun for every Idiot, an Idiot for every gun" Cryptoad Mar 2016 #5
They should do that, and not only that. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #6
Putnam County Sheriffs Capt. COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #7
You want to get the gun epidemic under control really fast? JDPriestly Mar 2016 #8
A lot of times guns and adults don't mix so well either. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #9
True. But adults and guns are more believably a "well regulated militia" that could secure the stat JDPriestly Mar 2016 #24
You win mainstreetonce Mar 2016 #17
It should be felony child endangerment. They prosecute for felony child endangerment for less than JDPriestly Mar 2016 #25
100% Agreement. Hoyt Mar 2016 #28
Add my 100% mainstreetonce Mar 2016 #32
It is child endangerment to have a gun and not keep it locked up so that the child cannot under JDPriestly Mar 2016 #36
I'd support something pretty close to that. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #42
Children do not obtain access to weapons due to negligence but rather due to a wanton JDPriestly Mar 2016 #43
Good news. Bad idea keeping a gun around a tot. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2016 #11
She should get child abuse, child endangerment and neglect charges. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #12
I agree. And the child should be taken out of the home. (They usually are if those charges are JDPriestly Mar 2016 #26
But gunz trump kidz!... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #41
Well, ahe won't do that again Blandocyte Mar 2016 #14
Wanna bet? TDale313 Mar 2016 #31
No, the only way she wouldn't do it again is if she had been killed LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2016 #38
B-b-but it made them safe AlbertCat Mar 2016 #16
I don't feel that that is an appropriate charge. blackspade Mar 2016 #20
I don't know it that's an actual charge WhiteTara Mar 2016 #21
I agree something needs to be done. blackspade Mar 2016 #22
What? No post from the Vietnam War Pilot Who Responds to every DU Gun Post... mark67 Mar 2016 #23
LMAO. That's a good way to end the day. Hoyt Mar 2016 #29
This kid is going to be really screwed up The Second Stone Mar 2016 #33
Laughing. Good word! n/t crim son Mar 2016 #40
A black person with a bad tail light would be in prison. This gun humper is being treated like whereisjustice Mar 2016 #34
+1 Person 2713 Mar 2016 #35
You mean she's not in jail now? WTF? nt valerief Mar 2016 #37
Good. crim son Mar 2016 #39
Scroll the names on this post. Darb Mar 2016 #44
Well done! Factual untruth *and* CT, all in just six sentences friendly_iconoclast Mar 2016 #45

Crunchy Frog

(26,548 posts)
13. Not even remotely.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

If it were up to me, she'd lose custody of this and any other children she might have.

Absolutely beyond the pale of irresponsibility, in a "responsible gun owner".

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
30. Nope. She should be charged.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:48 PM
Mar 2016

She put that little boy at incredible risk. He could have died. And he's old enough that what happened may very well stick with him. Letting children near guns is not a tragic accident- it's a criminal act.

surrealAmerican

(11,340 posts)
6. They should do that, and not only that.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:04 PM
Mar 2016

They need to get that child away from this family. That is not a safe environment for a small child. The next time, he might kill somebody, or even himself.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. You want to get the gun epidemic under control really fast?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:08 PM
Mar 2016

Make it a felony child endangerment against the owner of the gun any time that a child under 14 obtains control or possession of a gun.

Guns and children do not mix.


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. True. But adults and guns are more believably a "well regulated militia" that could secure the stat
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:29 PM
Mar 2016

We should ask the Supreme Court to determine whether a 3-year-old has a constitutional right to carry a gun. That would be an interesting case.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. It should be felony child endangerment. They prosecute for felony child endangerment for less than
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

permitting a child to have a gun.

Imagine the guilt that a poor little child has to live with the rest of his or her life if he or she is permitted to have or manages to get access to a gun and shoots his or her parent.

I know for a fact that has happened. And it is very hard for a child to even admit when it happens because it causes such emotional damage.

It should be felony child endangerment. And any child under 14 who is given control or possession of a gun by a parent should be placed either in a home or in foster care.

I'm not huge on gun control, but parents who have guns within the reach of children are criminals as far as I am concerned.

We have enough of a problem with adults who have guns, much less children who have them.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
36. It is child endangerment to have a gun and not keep it locked up so that the child cannot under
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:08 AM
Mar 2016

any circumstances get it.

I have a story to tell in this regard, but I cannot share it. I will only say that I used to visit Juvenile Hall as part of my job. People can figure it out from there.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
42. I'd support something pretty close to that.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

I have no objection to kids learning to shoot under strictly supervised conditions. But negligently allowing a child to get hold of an unsecured weapon? Yeah...throw the book at them. Owning firearms is an enormous responsibility, and idiots who won't accept that responsibility shouldn't own firearms.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. Children do not obtain access to weapons due to negligence but rather due to a wanton
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

disregard for human life. That is why I believe tzhat when a child gets control or posession of a gun, it should be a felony and that in a civil case, punitive damages should be awardable.

The child who uses the gun to harm someone else is also seriously harmed for life.

38. No, the only way she wouldn't do it again is if she had been killed
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:49 AM
Mar 2016

Otherwise, it just becomes a funny story: "Remember that time when Junior shot Mommy?"

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
20. I don't feel that that is an appropriate charge.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
Mar 2016

That said, She appears to have not learned from the incident, so something has to be done.
Maybe wanton endangerment?

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
21. I don't know it that's an actual charge
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:00 PM
Mar 2016

but child endangerment might be good and it get the DFS involved and she will have to take parenting classes.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
22. I agree something needs to be done.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:37 PM
Mar 2016

A suspended sentence and banning from owning firearms would maybe most appropriate.
I think her wound should be punishment enough for now, but she should definitely be under supervision for some length of time.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
33. This kid is going to be really screwed up
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

when he gets older with the impact of the guilt of shooting his mother. A criminal conviction of her for negligence might ameliorate that a bit.

I used ameliorate in a sentence.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
34. A black person with a bad tail light would be in prison. This gun humper is being treated like
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:19 PM
Mar 2016

royalty in comparison.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
44. Scroll the names on this post.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

Not one single member of the gun humper brigade. You think that is an accident? No, that is what they are taught. The NRA teaches them to stay away from "idiot kills (insert self, son, daughter, child, neighbor, mother, father, 5, 6, 30).

It is how they operate. It is why they are here.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
45. Well done! Factual untruth *and* CT, all in just six sentences
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

Would that the rest of you lot had such conciseness of style. Most of them try
to make up for their lack of substance with verbiage. You get it out of the way
with a paragraph or two.

Personally, I believe this fool should be charged

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