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ForgoTheConsequence

(4,867 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:56 AM Mar 2016

Clinton calls for more surveillance, police after Brussels attacks

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton says the United States must increase its surveillance to avert Brussels-style attacks on unprotected "soft" targets.

"We have to toughen our surveillance, our interception of communication," the former secretary of state and Democratic presidential contender said Tuesday in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politics/hillary-clinton-surveillance-brussels/index.html?sr=twCNN032316hillary-clinton-surveillance-brussels0531AMVODtopLink&linkId=22589146



She went from sounding like Bernie to sounding like Trump.
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Clinton calls for more surveillance, police after Brussels attacks (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2016 OP
What's a little 1984? hereforthevoting Mar 2016 #1
Between friends. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #7
How about some regime change ? /nt jakeXT Mar 2016 #2
Ugh. Just . . . ugh! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2016 #3
I wish it was a bit more specific. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #4
Of course she does, just like a good authoritarian. longship Mar 2016 #5
got any other suggestions? 6chars Mar 2016 #15
How about start with not taking away freedoms in the name of security theater. longship Mar 2016 #20
Nothing says freedom Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #6
Essential liberty vs Temporary Safety SusanLarson Mar 2016 #8
Goes With Her Drug War billhicks76 Mar 2016 #9
No more drug warriors!!! jomin41 Mar 2016 #19
Exactly billhicks76 Mar 2016 #21
Classic Clinton weasel words. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #10
Go Hillary! More surveillance! nt longship Mar 2016 #11
Typical republican response. Gregorian Mar 2016 #12
Security? Lamonte Mar 2016 #13
such a surprise. .... NOT Arazi Mar 2016 #14
Well, she could say "Let's have less security". Or "Leave it the same". WhoWoodaKnew Mar 2016 #16
It does look like Brussels could have used more surveillance Democat Mar 2016 #17
Such imagination, Hillary! jomin41 Mar 2016 #18
Bernie said the same exact thing oberliner Mar 2016 #22

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
4. I wish it was a bit more specific.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:21 AM
Mar 2016

Toughen our surveillance, interception and communication... okay, I'm not against that, but are we talking about legislative efforts to toughen these things, or are we talking about simply funding the organizations in place that already do this? Stepping up their efforts and funding and so on?

I don't see where she said anything bad here. We do need to step up our security efforts - to the extent that we can without invading the privacy and civil rights of people who have done nothing wrong. That's often the part that gets left out in these conversations about government surveillance. I'm all for letting intelligence agencies spy on terrorists and the like, but there needs to be greater oversight, there needs to be warrants - and common sense measures that protect law abiding citizens and their private and personal information.

We remain, in this Country, innocent until proven guilty. I hope that Clinton will acknowledge these things. These things need to be done carefully, with a great deal of control.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Of course she does, just like a good authoritarian.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:09 AM
Mar 2016

So what's the mystery? She wants less privacy, as if that will help somehow.

Shows just how clueless she is.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
6. Nothing says freedom
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:16 AM
Mar 2016

like increasing the chances of having your 4th Amendment Right violated.

WooHoo security state!

 

SusanLarson

(284 posts)
8. Essential liberty vs Temporary Safety
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:50 AM
Mar 2016

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin...

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
9. Goes With Her Drug War
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:56 AM
Mar 2016

That's where ALL the surveillance goes. If they were serious they would reallocate resources.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
21. Exactly
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:12 PM
Mar 2016

The war on terror has become a rebranding of the failed and unpopular drug war. The Warriors need money? Ok. Everyone does. Have them fight terror.

Lamonte

(85 posts)
13. Security?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

We allow terrorists to wheel bombs into a crowded airport. Is this a weak link? We cannot start security outside the terminals so we must now allow no baggage. We have these problems because we did not learn about the Middle East, we and Israel are stuck and it is partially our own fault. When Bush went crazy under the orders of Cheney my first thought was don't go there. We will possibly live with terrorism for the rest of our lives. Changes in how we travel are imperative.

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
16. Well, she could say "Let's have less security". Or "Leave it the same".
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:55 PM
Mar 2016

Not sure how that plays with the public though. Sometimes people just want to hear the right words regardless whether you do anything or not.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
17. It does look like Brussels could have used more surveillance
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

Not sure what that means for America, but Belgian authorities seem to have bungled this case. According to news reports, these two brothers were both supposed to be in jail. If someone is a convicted violent felon with terrorist ties, maybe more surveillance is a good idea?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Bernie said the same exact thing
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders tells reporters in Arizona that the attacks in Brussels, Belgium, show the need for "significantly improved surveillance" and the sharing of intelligence with countries around the world.

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