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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:45 AM Aug 2016

Russian mufti calls for genital mutilation of all women

Source: AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE

18 AUG 2016 AT 10:13 ET

A Senior Muslim cleric in Russia has prompted controversy by urging universal female genital mutilation after a rights group released a report on the practice in the country’s North Caucasus region.

Mufti Ismail Berdiyev, who heads a Muslim association for the North Caucasus region, said Wednesday that if FGM “could be applied to all women, that would be very good” in an interview with Interfax news agency.

The practice, which ranges from pricking of the clitoris to its complete removal, causes infections and loss of sensation. The procedure has come under massive international scrutiny in recent years, with UN chief Ban Ki-Moon in 2014 launching a global campaign to end it.

Berdiyev, who was decorated by President Vladimir Putin in March, said FGM does not stop women from fulfilling their ordained role of motherhood and if all women were mutilated, “there would be less fornication”.

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/russian-mufti-calls-for-genital-mutilation-of-all-women/

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Russian mufti calls for genital mutilation of all women (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2016 OP
Disgusting MF leftynyc Aug 2016 #1
Great minds think alike :-) n/t sharp_stick Aug 2016 #3
At least the russian-orthodox church has openly taken political sides with Putin. DetlefK Aug 2016 #7
Off with his dick. apcalc Aug 2016 #33
I think cutting the dicks off all Mufti's sharp_stick Aug 2016 #2
I'm with you & leftnyc both! k&r, nt appal_jack Aug 2016 #37
UGH blueseas Aug 2016 #4
We always knew that those Caucasions Friend or Foe Aug 2016 #5
Can anyone spell this? raven mad Aug 2016 #6
the practice is far more than that little sentence--pricking of the clitoris??? are you F*CKING niyad Aug 2016 #8
hey, asshole, how about we do this to you? after all, the penis is nothing more than niyad Aug 2016 #9
its much much worse than infections and loss of sensation arithia Aug 2016 #10
thank you for posting that added information. FGM is not some casual, harmless little niyad Aug 2016 #11
thank you as well arithia Aug 2016 #12
thankfully, there are a good number of those to lift our spirits. excellent idea, I will do niyad Aug 2016 #14
Niyad, please, that's the second time in this thread you've said you "would have posted pics"... Hekate Aug 2016 #21
as you have seen, I have not posted any pics, so I don't quite understand what niyad Aug 2016 #30
Okay, never mind. Next time you fiercely insist--twice--that you are this close to doing something Hekate Aug 2016 #39
What in the actual fuck is wrong with those assholes? MynameisBlarney Aug 2016 #13
they fear and hate women's sexuality in general. the fact that they all came out from niyad Aug 2016 #15
Definitely something Freudian goin' on MynameisBlarney Aug 2016 #17
are you planning on outliving methuselah? niyad Aug 2016 #18
Aw heck no! MynameisBlarney Aug 2016 #20
Remember when Reza Aslan told us this was a "Central African Problem"? knightmaar Aug 2016 #16
What do both groups have in common? awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #24
Maybe it *was* a Central African problem knightmaar Aug 2016 #40
Kick without comment. -nt CrispyQ Aug 2016 #19
You first, fucker NickB79 Aug 2016 #22
I second that motion! Coventina Aug 2016 #26
There would be less fornication????? leftieNanner Aug 2016 #23
And Universal castration would stop most wars mainer Aug 2016 #25
Tomcats, also Warpy Aug 2016 #29
What is the plural of Mufti? is it still Mufti? 6chars Aug 2016 #27
woman-hating assholes???? niyad Aug 2016 #31
That was it! 6chars Aug 2016 #35
Cut your dick off, Berdiyev, then we'll talk about it. Warpy Aug 2016 #28
exactly--their "god" is all-powerful, all-knowing, inerrant--oooops!!! niyad Aug 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #34
or, one can say, "may this woman-hating piece of filth receive everything he deserves." niyad Aug 2016 #36
If he was imprisoned in the general population I think that'd quiet him down. truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #38
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
1. Disgusting MF
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:50 AM
Aug 2016

Decorated by putin for what? You know what else would cause less fornication? Cutting off this cretin's dick and anyone else's who agrees with him.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. At least the russian-orthodox church has openly taken political sides with Putin.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

They play up the themes of nationalism that Putin wants and he talks about how important the church is for russian culture. They are intertwined.

The russian nationalism sees Russia as the only country that is still pure and good and honorable. All other countries are sinful wretches.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. I think cutting the dicks off all Mufti's
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:51 AM
Aug 2016

would accomplish the same thing but as an added bonus we wouldn't have as many indoctrinated fuckwads being spawned.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
8. the practice is far more than that little sentence--pricking of the clitoris??? are you F*CKING
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:14 AM
Aug 2016

kidding me???

THIS is FGM:

Procedures

Female genital mutilation is classified into 4 major types.

Type 1: Often referred to as clitoridectomy, this is the partial or total removal of the clitoris (a small, sensitive and erectile part of the female genitals), and in very rare cases, only the prepuce (the fold of skin surrounding the clitoris).
Type 2: Often referred to as excision, this is the partial or total removal of the clitoris and the labia minora (the inner folds of the vulva), with or without excision of the labia majora (the outer folds of skin of the vulva ).
Type 3: Often referred to as infibulation, this is the narrowing of the vaginal opening through the creation of a covering seal. The seal is formed by cutting and repositioning the labia minora, or labia majora, sometimes through stitching, with or without removal of the clitoris (clitoridectomy).
Type 4: This includes all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g. pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area.

Deinfibulation refers to the practice of cutting open the sealed vaginal opening in a woman who has been infibulated, which is often necessary for improving health and well-being as well as to allow intercourse or to facilitate childbirth.

I would post the pics here, but some might be looking at them in public:

http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/Female-Circumcision-Before-and-After.html


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niyad

(113,259 posts)
9. hey, asshole, how about we do this to you? after all, the penis is nothing more than
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:15 AM
Aug 2016

an enlarged clitoris.

arithia

(455 posts)
10. its much much worse than infections and loss of sensation
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:23 AM
Aug 2016

and shame on raw story for downplaying how horrible FGM is.

http://www.endfgm.eu/female-genital-mutilation/what-is-fgm/

* The procedure can result in death through severe bleeding leading to haemorrhagic shock, neurogenic shock as a result of pain and trauma, and overwhelming infection and septicaemia

*Women may experience chronic pain, chronic pelvic infections, development of cysts, abscesses and genital ulcers, excessive scar tissue formation, infection of the reproductive system, decreased sexual enjoyment and psychological consequences, such as post-traumatic stress disorder.

*A multi-country study by WHO in six African countries, showed that women who had undergone FGM, had significantly increased risks for adverse events during childbirth, and that genital mutilation in mothers has negative effects on their newborn babies. According to the study, an additional one to two babies per 100 deliveries die as a result of FGM.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
11. thank you for posting that added information. FGM is not some casual, harmless little
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:29 AM
Aug 2016

procedure, and the downplaying of its severity and horror is sickening. I would have posted some pics, but some may be on public computers.

arithia

(455 posts)
12. thank you as well
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:39 AM
Aug 2016

saw your post as soon as my own went up. The more people who speak up, the better.

There are some genuinely sick people in the world peddling genuinely sick ideas. By downplaying the suffering of millions of women and the horrific reality of the practice, this article is helping perpetuate those sick ideas.

*sigh* Time to go find a puppy/kitten thread.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
14. thankfully, there are a good number of those to lift our spirits. excellent idea, I will do
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:45 AM
Aug 2016

the same.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
21. Niyad, please, that's the second time in this thread you've said you "would have posted pics"...
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 12:48 PM
Aug 2016

I utterly oppose all forms of this hideous practice, and I appreciate the graphic VERBAL reminders of what it is. I've done a fair bit of that myself. But LINKS are sufficient in case anyone wants to actually see it.

Any moment now someone is going to show up peddling the false equivalency between FGM and male circumcision. Nothing will ever convince them, not even photographs, but they will hijack this and every other thread they can. They need a verbal slap-down, though.

I appreciate that you are fighting the good fight against misogyny and ignorance, but pics would be beyond the bounds of even a warning in the OP subject line, imo.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
30. as you have seen, I have not posted any pics, so I don't quite understand what
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:10 PM
Aug 2016

the problem is.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
39. Okay, never mind. Next time you fiercely insist--twice--that you are this close to doing something
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:58 AM
Aug 2016

....rash, I'll pass by without comment and leave you to it.

As I clearly should have done this time.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
13. What in the actual fuck is wrong with those assholes?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:40 AM
Aug 2016

Oh....no, wait. I remember now.

They're all patriarchal theocratic douchebags.

And they're apparently deathly afraid of female orgasms.

Losers. The lot of 'em.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
15. they fear and hate women's sexuality in general. the fact that they all came out from
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:46 AM
Aug 2016

between women's legs is what makes them hate so much.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
17. Definitely something Freudian goin' on
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:48 AM
Aug 2016

I hope I'm still around when the male portion of humanity stops being such assholes.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
40. Maybe it *was* a Central African problem
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 02:08 PM
Aug 2016

There *are* Christians doing it, in Africa, who seem to think it's a religious obligation.

But Muslims have exported it way, way more than Christians did.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
23. There would be less fornication?????
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:13 PM
Aug 2016

This guy needs to have his dick lopped off and sewn up. And he's going to say that he's a virgin? He doesn't "fornicate"? If he sews All women up, who the hell is he going to "fornicate" with? This hideous practice needs to end.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
25. And Universal castration would stop most wars
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:33 PM
Aug 2016

I learned this by observing how peaceable oxen are. Castrated bulls are docile and cooperative.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
28. Cut your dick off, Berdiyev, then we'll talk about it.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 08:59 PM
Aug 2016

By the way, why do all you religious woman haters think your god made so many mistakes that you oh so superior males have to correct by cutting things off women?

Shitheads.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
38. If he was imprisoned in the general population I think that'd quiet him down.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:46 PM
Aug 2016

Permanently. Can't say I'd feel bad about it.

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