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US SAYS $400M PAYMENT WAS CONTINGENT ON RELEASE OF PRISONERS (Original Post) Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 OP
and I am trying to care, I really am DURHAM D Aug 2016 #1
So we used Iran's money to leverage their good behavior? Qutzupalotl Aug 2016 #2
Except now they will take more hostages to get the next batch of their own money. Akicita Aug 2016 #15
No, it wasn't payment for hostages. Qutzupalotl Aug 2016 #16
I know. But the money was sent to get the hostages released Ergo they will Akicita Aug 2016 #17
They'd have to release any hostages to get paid Qutzupalotl Aug 2016 #19
So they can release them again and get paid again. Akicita Aug 2016 #20
They're going to get paid anyway, so that makes no sense. Qutzupalotl Aug 2016 #21
yep. Iran irony. librechik Aug 2016 #22
Irany! nt Qutzupalotl Aug 2016 #25
heh--you went there! n/t librechik Aug 2016 #26
$400 million payment of Iran's own money? Faux News tends to leave that part out. timlot Aug 2016 #3
$400 Million that we've owed them for FORTY YEARS TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #24
So it was the opposite of "ransom". yellowcanine Aug 2016 #4
Not only did we simply give them their own money back, trotsky Aug 2016 #13
In fact, imagine we negotiated to return the money and trusted karynnj Aug 2016 #14
I'll call Hannity right now!!!!11!! Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #5
Are you ready to hear about this for the next 3 months? hibbing Aug 2016 #6
The story is no different than the original. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #7
Yeah hibbing Aug 2016 #9
Easy to fix leftynyc Aug 2016 #10
I guess I'm a masochist, but I know...peace hibbing Aug 2016 #11
I understand leftynyc Aug 2016 #12
A much more sedate life without him for sure. Akicita Aug 2016 #18
If we can take the Senate an Presidency, who cares? Democat Aug 2016 #8
So... we were holding their money hostage, and we did a hostage trade? truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #23
This is fucking stupid. 6000eliot Aug 2016 #27
Im not understanding the problem gwheezie Aug 2016 #28
This is why HRC has a slim lead because some people are always so easily manipulated underthematrix Aug 2016 #29

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
17. I know. But the money was sent to get the hostages released Ergo they will
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 06:40 PM
Aug 2016

take more hostages to get more of their frozen assets. Give a dog a treat when he eats your slippers and he will keep eating your slippers.

Qutzupalotl

(14,230 posts)
21. They're going to get paid anyway, so that makes no sense.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 06:48 PM
Aug 2016

We're rewarding their good behavior (release of hostages), not their bad (taking them).

 

timlot

(456 posts)
3. $400 million payment of Iran's own money? Faux News tends to leave that part out.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:19 PM
Aug 2016

Thankful that folks are free.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
4. So it was the opposite of "ransom".
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:22 PM
Aug 2016

With ransom the money is paid and then the hostages are released.

Here the hostages were released and then they got their own money back.

Aren't these the kind of "deals" Trumpy brags about doing?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
13. Not only did we simply give them their own money back,
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:52 PM
Aug 2016

we got out of having to pay them about a billion dollars in interest.

It was a fucking fantastic deal.

karynnj

(59,475 posts)
14. In fact, imagine we negotiated to return the money and trusted
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:25 PM
Aug 2016

Them to later release the Americans.

It was still not a ransom. The word leverage makes more sense. We owed the money and it made sense to hold it up until we got everything else.

CNN 2 women both gave a mostly Republican explanation then called in a Republican congressmen.

hibbing

(10,076 posts)
6. Are you ready to hear about this for the next 3 months?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:30 PM
Aug 2016

Let alone the next four years, it will all be emails, Benghazi, and probably this. Let alone all the other crap they throw out there.

Peace

hibbing

(10,076 posts)
9. Yeah
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:38 PM
Aug 2016

I know, but for some stupid reason I sometimes flip over to Faux and it is always the same garbage over and over, they will distort this and add it to the list.

Peace

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. I understand
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:48 PM
Aug 2016

I used to listen to Sean Hannity's radio show. I finally asked myself "wtf are you aggravating yourself for". The gray hair started coming in much slower.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
8. If we can take the Senate an Presidency, who cares?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 04:37 PM
Aug 2016

Let the angry racists waste four years of their lives doing nothing.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
27. This is fucking stupid.
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:53 AM
Aug 2016

It's not a thing and will never be a thing, no matter how the morons on the right try to make it one. Who cares?

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
28. Im not understanding the problem
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 12:54 AM
Aug 2016

We owed them the $ and we said we wouldn't pay unless hostages were returned. We only have them what we owed them. If they demanded a trillion bucks, I think I could work up some outrage.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
29. This is why HRC has a slim lead because some people are always so easily manipulated
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 03:11 AM
Aug 2016

by wingnut lies. Iran has been working on this for 36 years so this was not related but it does makes sense to put everything on the table during a negotiation. President Obama is so much nicer than me.

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