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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 10:41 PM Aug 2016

Man texted, 'I'm killing everyone' at party, documents say

Source: Associated Press

Man texted, 'I'm killing everyone' at party, documents say

Updated 6:25 pm, Friday, August 19, 2016

EVERETT, Wash. (AP) — A 19-year-old man accused of shooting three former high school classmates to death at a house party in suburban Seattle last month sent his friends text messages alluding to his plans, including one in which he wrote, "I'm killing everyone at a huge party," court documents said.

Allen C. Ivanov referred to himself as a "future shooter" in the messages, The Daily Herald newspaper in Everett reported Friday (http://goo.gl/ZNVMCb ). He has been charged with three counts of aggravated murder.

He tried to get back together with his former girlfriend the day before the July 30 attack, but she refused, Snohomish County deputy prosecutor Adam Cornell wrote in new charging papers filed Friday.

Ivanov texted one friend 12 hours before the attack, saying he was going to take a gun safety class before the shooting because he didn't want to "mess up," according to the court documents.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Documents-Mukilteo-shooter-texted-I-m-killing-9173824.php

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Man texted, 'I'm killing everyone' at party, documents say (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2016 OP
Idiot friends of idiot. truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #1
This is sad. underthematrix Aug 2016 #2
Good republican. xfundy Aug 2016 #3
I kind of doubt he had any political dimension to him maxsolomon Aug 2016 #15
More not-terror ck4829 Aug 2016 #4
What causes a 19yo to resort to murder? Evergreen Emerald Aug 2016 #5
yeah...go and get drunk maybe. :( nt ellenrr Aug 2016 #6
murder rates were much higher 50 years ago CreekDog Aug 2016 #7
Emergency care was less sophisticated fifty years ago struggle4progress Aug 2016 #8
Advances in gun technology haven't increased lethality of weapons. Calista241 Aug 2016 #9
Have you ever listened to an American murder ballad? maxsolomon Aug 2016 #10
It often was. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #11
ROFLMAO. Brickbat Aug 2016 #12
It is actually better now than then sarisataka Aug 2016 #13
the internet makes it possible to see the patterns emerge maxsolomon Aug 2016 #14

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
15. I kind of doubt he had any political dimension to him
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:32 PM
Aug 2016

He was consumed by his emotions of anger, resentment, jealousy, and vengeance.

Now he will have 60 years or so to think about it.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
5. What causes a 19yo to resort to murder?
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

What did guys do 50 years ago when a female rebuffed him? it was not murder.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
7. murder rates were much higher 50 years ago
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 03:29 PM
Aug 2016

I suspect there was murder over these kind of things then too.

With advances in gun technology, it may be easier for these guys to kill more than one person than it was in the past though.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
9. Advances in gun technology haven't increased lethality of weapons.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 09:02 AM
Aug 2016

And laws passed have theorically reduced lethality.

In the 1920's you could legally buy a fully automatic Thompson sub machine gun (with 50 round drum magazine) by mail order. While not as effective at extended ranges as the AR-15, mainly due to the type of ammunition it fired, at short ranges (where 99% of murders happen) the Thompson and other weapons like it are vastly superior to the AR. Variants of the Thompson later became a very effective and the most widely used weapon by the military in WW2.

The Valentine's Day Massacre and other shootings like it prompted passage of the National Firearms Act of 1934. Perhaps the only truly effective gun control measure ever actually passed by our government.

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
10. Have you ever listened to an American murder ballad?
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe you could start with "Knoxville Girl", or "Gonna Kill that Woman". 50 years ago, it was most definitely murder. Rejection by a woman is one of the prime rationales for murder throughout history. Adolescent men have a predisposition towards possessiveness and fragile egos. And a surfeit of testosterone.

Which is precisely why access to semi-automatic weapons should be strictly regulated, the purchasing age raised to 21 for all guns, and lengthy waiting periods for all purchases enacted (30 days, min. - enough time to get over the butthurt). The kid didn't take a class, he just READ THE FUCKING MANUAL IN HIS CAR.

sarisataka

(18,486 posts)
13. It is actually better now than then
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:30 PM
Aug 2016

the difference is now we have the means to take what would have been a local newspaper story the following day and instantly spread it nationwide.

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
14. the internet makes it possible to see the patterns emerge
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:19 PM
Aug 2016

all those isolated "local stories" become data points in a larger picture: sexually maladjusted male violence committed against female partners, abetted by liberal firearm laws.

each story is a unique tragedy, but the same features occur again and again. one being the inaction of people who could have stopped it before it started. in this case, the recipients of those texts. it will haunt them for the rest of their lives. hopefully.

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