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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:37 PM Aug 2016

Iran vessels make 'high speed intercept' of U.S. ship: defense official

Source: Reuters

Four vessels from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) "harassed" a U.S. destroyer on Tuesday by carrying out a "high speed intercept" in the vicinity of the Strait of Hormuz, a U.S. defense official said on Wednesday.

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said two of the Iranian vessels came within 300 yards of the USS Nitze in an incident that was "unsafe and unprofessional."

"The Iranian high rate of closure...created a dangerous, harassing situation that could have led to further escalation including additional defensive measures by Nitze," the official said.

The IRGC, the Islamic Republic's praetorian guard, is suspicious of U.S. military activity near Iran's borders. The Guards operate land and naval units separate from the regular armed forces and stage frequent war games in the Gulf, which separates Iran from its regional rival Saudi Arabia and a U.S. naval base in Bahrain.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-military-idUSKCN10Z2OP?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

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Iran vessels make 'high speed intercept' of U.S. ship: defense official (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Aug 2016 OP
They're testing for a response. Thats way too close. 7962 Aug 2016 #1
If I'm Obama . . . DeltaLitProf Aug 2016 #2
Pffft TheBaculumKing Aug 2016 #3
All those Arleigh Burkes assigned to the Persian Gulf region jpak Aug 2016 #4
Unlimber the 5" Gun TheBaculumKing Aug 2016 #5
A bit too much firepower for the application... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #13
The Muzzle Blast Would Be Sufficient at That Range TheBaculumKing Aug 2016 #14
I would think that Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #7
And *that* is the correct response to this type of event. Nihil Aug 2016 #9
Yes, Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #11
USS Cole. joshcryer Aug 2016 #10
Water and sound are more than enough to repel those putzes. MADem Aug 2016 #16
My thought, like pissy kids throwing rocks at tanks Hortensis Aug 2016 #6
Pointless antagonism. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #8
This is just like the Russians buzzing us earlier this year. GOLGO 13 Aug 2016 #12
Why does the Iranian Navy have glass-bottomed boats? MADem Aug 2016 #15
U.S. Navy ship fires warning shots at Iranian vessel Eugene Aug 2016 #17
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
1. They're testing for a response. Thats way too close.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 05:38 PM
Aug 2016

Send a few warning rounds across their bow next time.

DeltaLitProf

(767 posts)
2. If I'm Obama . . .
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:53 PM
Aug 2016

. . . I ask Iran if they want to get the nuke deal revoked and sanctions slapped on even worse. This is how to do it.

TheBaculumKing

(102 posts)
3. Pffft
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:13 PM
Aug 2016

Those Iranian bass boats only still exist because the Commander of the Nitze chose to let them live.

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jpak

(41,756 posts)
4. All those Arleigh Burkes assigned to the Persian Gulf region
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 07:20 PM
Aug 2016

Should have 2 Phalanx mounts and 2 MK 38 chain guns.

Just sayin'

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
13. A bit too much firepower for the application...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

and probably would be ineffective at that close of range.

TheBaculumKing

(102 posts)
14. The Muzzle Blast Would Be Sufficient at That Range
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Aug 2016

And be good gunnery practice.

I'm not entirely sure the shells would even arm that close.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. I would think that
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:56 AM
Aug 2016

they were being tracked by the Phalanx and it really would take that much to splinter them using that system. More likely they would get a good dose from high pressure fire hoses should they get too close. It really wouldn't take too very much on those rather open boats to upset the center of gravity.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
9. And *that* is the correct response to this type of event.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:57 AM
Aug 2016

> More likely they would get a good dose from high pressure fire hoses should they get too close.

No need to fire off a single pistol shot - as you say, the Phalanx more than covers it if anyone
decides to escalate - just hose them down to cool their hot heads a little.


Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
11. Yes,
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:23 AM
Aug 2016

The Iranians were being boneheads and trying to start something if possible, knowing that they probably could not do so. I did see flares being shot off during their approach so some steps were being taken, I am sure fire hoses were next along with some MG's mounted on the ship's railings. Swinging the 5" might have gotten their attention, but small, fast targets would likely be difficult to hit with even the automatic 5" guns of today.

joshcryer

(62,266 posts)
10. USS Cole.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:02 AM
Aug 2016

They wouldn't allow them to get that close, actual arms would've been employed, the Iranians would know that.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. Water and sound are more than enough to repel those putzes.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

They don't even need the nets to foul propellers, the skunky smell, or the electric charges that the civilian vessels employ against pirates, e.g.:

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
12. This is just like the Russians buzzing us earlier this year.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:22 PM
Aug 2016

They know we wont strike first. They would love for us to do so. Time to dive into our "dirty tricks" magic bag.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. Why does the Iranian Navy have glass-bottomed boats?
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:32 PM
Aug 2016
So they can see the Iranian Air Force!




Old joke--but they'd best not take a bite out of something they simply can't chew.

Wonder if Putin is encouraging this behavior?


Iran has lost so many people in war--the Iran-Iraq war was a hopper into which were flung an entire generation of youth...there are so many kids who grew up without their fathers--I can't believe they'd be thrilled at the idea of more War Without End, Amen.

I think this is one more example of the leadership of the country being out of touch with the overwhelming majority of the population. This kind of crap is the ulema who run the country talking, not the people.

Eugene

(61,813 posts)
17. U.S. Navy ship fires warning shots at Iranian vessel
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:11 PM
Aug 2016

Source: Reuters

WORLD NEWS | Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:46pm EDT

U.S. Navy ship fires warning shots at Iranian vessel

By Idrees Ali | WASHINGTON

A U.S. Navy ship fired warning shots toward an Iranian fast-attack craft that approached two U.S. ships, a Pentagon spokesman said on Thursday, in the most serious of a number of incidents in the Gulf area this week.

"They did feel compelled ultimately to fire three warning shots and the reason for that is... they had taken steps already to try and de-escalate this situation," spokesman Peter Cook told reporters.

Tensions have increased in the Gulf in recent days despite an improvement in relations between Iran and the United States.

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A U.S. defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the USS Squall patrol craft fired three warning shots from a .50 caliber gun in the northern Gulf on Wednesday after warning flares did not work.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-navy-idUSKCN110285
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