Surveillance plane was not a secret, Baltimore police say
Source: Associated Press
Surveillance plane was not a secret, Baltimore police say
Kasey Jones, Associated Press
Updated 4:36 pm, Wednesday, August 24, 2016
BALTIMORE (AP) Baltimore police, using money provided by a wealthy, anonymous donor, have been surveilling the city with a manned plane loaded with cameras that can view 30 square miles.
The existence of the program was made public Tuesday in a lengthy report by Bloomberg Businessweek.
At a news conference on Wednesday, Police Department spokesman T.J. Smith repeatedly insisted to reporters that the test program, which began in January, was not a secret.
"It's not a secret spy plane," Smith said as reporters pressed him for an explanation for the lack of information. "There's no conspiracy to not disclose it."
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Surveillance-plane-was-not-a-secret-Baltimore-9182515.php
forest444
(5,902 posts)Nothin' to see here folks.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)The militarization of our police forces, funded by wealthy citizens. Who of course receive tax breaks because they don't want to support government spending.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)The "wealthy donor" is?
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Use of local foundation allowed Baltimore police surveillance project to remain secret
The Baltimore Police Department was able to keep secret the funding for a surveillance plane that monitored wide swaths of the city by routing project funds through a private foundation whose director says he was not aware of the purpose of the spending.
A Texas-based private donor supplied $120,000 intended for the city surveillance project but delivered to the nonprofit Baltimore Community Foundation, which manages at least two charitable funds for police.
Thomas E. Wilcox, president of the Baltimore Community Foundation, said in an interview Wednesday that foundation officials did not know what the money was for.
"We did not know anything about a surveillance program," Wilcox said. "We do 3,000 grants a year. Someone asks us to give a grant to an organization, whether it's Wounded Warrior or the YMCA, we make the grant."
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-community-foundation-20160824-story.html
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)That money could have done for troubled areas of the city.
Disgraceful.
cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)officers on the ground pursuing fleeing suspects and or for providing quick transportation for emergency personal to a remote area?
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The advantage of police helicopters are they can stay over one area, and if you are tracking a specific suspect, you can stay over him.
If you are taking photographs, a plane will scan an area faster, and be a lot cheaper to buy, and cheaper to fly per hour.
Either way, Baltimore does own police helicopters.
cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)They could surely have provided just as much coverage for an even lower cost couldnt they?
hack89
(39,171 posts)Flying planes and helicopters is much less restricted and allows much more flexibility as well as quicker response times.
The regulatory scheme is not yet in place to allow police to fly drones just like they fly helicopters and planes.
cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)24601
(3,959 posts)They use a small plane instead of a helicopter because they aren't in the hot-pursuit business. They also don't have advanced tech like UAVs. Some of their best successes have been in support of going after those who are engaged in illegal dumping.
They fly high enough to get a view of a wide area and they record it. Then, if police say there was an armed robbery at the corner of Main & First at 12:15 pm - and they drove away in a white SUV, they go to the time and place on their video. If they identify the vehicle, running it forward tells you where the suspects went and running it in reverse tells you where it was before before the robbery. If they can say it went to a gas station 10 minutes before the robbery, police can check to see if the station has cameras or credit card information on someone buying gas at that time.
They can't look through walls, pat you down for weapons or see the contents of your smart phone. Anything they can see could be captured by a store's street-level camera (remember the Boston Marathon bombers) but without the higher resolution that let's you identify an individual.
cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)to do their job LOL
Mind you I do draw the line on some things like using infrared to spy on peoples homes to locate alleged marijuana farms as that goes beyond visual and I also dont approve of them using phony aerial cell tower to track cell phones without a warrant to track a specific phone and or phones but taking visual footage isnt anymore invasive than what a bank, grocery store or gas station do today with cameras.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Source: Washington Post
As Benjamin Shayne settled into his back yard to listen to the Orioles game on the radio Saturday night, he noticed a small plane looping low and tight over West Baltimore almost exactly above where rioting had erupted several days earlier, in the aftermath of the death of a black man, Freddie Gray, in police custody.
The plane appeared to be a small Cessna, but little else was clear. The sun had already set, making traditional visual surveillance difficult. So, perplexed, Shayne tweeted: Anyone know who has been flying the light plane in circles above the city for the last few nights?
That was 9:14 p.m. Seven minutes later came a startling reply. One of Shaynes nearly 600 followers tweeted back a screen shot of the Cessna 182Ts exact flight path and also the registered owner of the plane: NG Research, based in Bristow, Va.
The Internet, Shayne, 39, told his wife, is an amazing thing.
Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/surveillance-planes-spotted-in-the-sky-for-days-after-west-baltimore-rioting/2015/05/05/c57c53b6-f352-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,866 posts)By Yael Grauer
May 6 2015 4:28 PM
In the aftermath of the Baltimore protests and riots in response to the death of Freddie Gray in police custody, FBI surveillance planes were flown over the city on the evenings of April 30, May 1, and May 2, according to the Washington Post.
An unnamed government official who spoke to the paper stated that these planesa Cessna 182T Skylane propeller plane and a Cessna 560 Citation V jetused infrared technology to monitor peoples movements, and that Baltimore police officials requested aerial support from the FBI.
It would be disturbing if police were overreacting to reactions to their own misconduct by calling in indiscriminate aerial surveillance, Nathan Freed Wessler, a staff attorney with ACLUs Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, told me. He points out that the days in question occurred after the rioting had ended but while a curfew, criticized by the ACLU in Maryland, was still in place.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/05/06/report_government_surveillance_planes_spotted_over_baltimore_protests.html
Same incident as post #5.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Gotta protect us from ourselves, donchaknow!?!
LiberalFighter
(50,890 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Eugene
(61,872 posts)Source: The Guardian
Police program obtained through private contractor, which allows
small plane to film 32-mile section of city, has been criticized as
intrusive and possibly illegal
Baynard Woods in Baltimore
Friday 26 August 2016 13.35 BST
Legal and constitutional questions have been raised over revelations that the Baltimore police department used privately contracted surveillance technology to secretly monitor vast swaths of the city, lawyers and civil liberties advocates say.
The program, confirmed for the first time by police officials on Wednesday, allows a small plane to film a 32 square mile section of the city. The tape is saved and stored and analysts can move about in time and space in order to track vehicles or individuals, although individual human characteristics arent discernible. Russ McNutt, the founder of the Ohio-based Persistent Surveillance, likened it to Google Earth with Tivo.
The Baltimore police department entered into a trial agreement with Persistent Surveillance in January and the company has filmed the city for 300 hours and provided the police department with over 100 investigative reports. According to Bloomberg BusinessWeek, which broke the story earlier this week, McNutt developed the program for the Pentagon in 2006 and in 2007 it was used in Iraq.
Legal experts, struggling to catch up with a program that police just admitted exists, are questioning how these tactics will hold up in court.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/26/baltimore-police-surveillance-legal-questions