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KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:33 AM Aug 2016

Pentagon Tester: F-35 Still Has Serious Problems

Source: Popular Mechanics

One week after the U.S. Air Force declared the F-35A Joint Strike Fighter ready for combat, the Pentagon's top weapons tester warned that the aircraft is still fraught with problems and that fully-capable planes might not be available before the deadline that marks the end of development and the beginning of realistic combat testing.

The Pentagon's director of operational testing, Michael Gilmore, stated in a memo obtained by Bloomberg that the F-35 is "actually not on a path toward success but instead on a path toward failing to deliver" the plane's full combat capabilities on time. Gilmore also said the plane is "running out of time and money" to address deficiencies

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The problem seems to be due to delays in getting the Block 3F software package, which controls much of the F-35's most important features, ready for the entire F-35 fleet. Block 3F is known as the "full warfighting package" and having it operational is one of the key requirements of ending F-35 development. Testing now appears likely to be pushed back to later in 2017 or even 2018.

At least 15 capabilities in the 3F software package—including the ability to process enemy radar signals, track moving targets on the ground, share imagery between aircraft, use the GPS-guided GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb, and operate the plane's 25-millimeter gun—are all still under development and at risk of not being ready for combat testing.

Read more: http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a22530/pentagon-tester-f-35-combat-testing-delays/



Can't bomb, can't strafe, or go to guns in a dogfight (but with that blindspot behind the pilot, dogfighting is the LAST thing this plane needs to be involved in), but "the stealthy fighter is cleared for deployments—including combat".

The fact that they can build an incomplete fighter/bomber (after 15 years!) and hand the keys over to Air Forces and Marines around the world with caveats like "the gun doesn't work yet" and "you can't drop bombs made for it yet" is outrageous.
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MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
1. From what I've read about this plane
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

the F22 would have been the superior platform.
But lobbyists...

Feh.

Now we're gonna be stuck with a ridiculously expensive that no one likes and doesn't work.


WAY TO GO PENTAGON!

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
2. F-22 can't replace an A-10 Warthog for close air support
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:56 AM
Aug 2016

And neither can the F-35. Jeeze.

The Marines need a A/V 8B Harrier Jump Jet replacement... That's the only fighter I see the F-35 (when it is actually finished) being a good replacement for.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
4. The A-10
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:02 PM
Aug 2016

One of the sexiest planes ever made.
It's right up there with the P-38 Lightning, in my humble opinion.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
9. I dont think they need a replacement just a major upgrade to the Harrier and it could probably still
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:29 PM
Aug 2016

do the job same for the A 10 but thats just my personal opinion based on what I have read and I could very well be wrong, lord knows it wouldnt be the first time LOL

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
17. "American general admits the 'F-35' is actually 3 different fighter jets"
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:30 PM
Aug 2016
http://theweek.com/articles/612658/american-general-admits-f35-actually-3-different-fighter-jets

The whole idea behind the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter was for it to be, you know, joint. That is to say, the same basic plane would work for the U.S. Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps and foreign countries.

Lockheed Martin is designing the F-35 to meet all the requirements of all three U.S. military branches from the outset, with — in theory — only minor differences between the Air Force's F-35A, the Marines' F-35B, and the Navy's F-35C.

The variants were supposed to be 70-percent common. But Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan, head of the JSF program office, told a seminar audience on Feb. 10 that the three F-35 models are only 20- to 25-percent common, mainly in their cockpits.

In other words, the F-35 is actually three different warplanes. The F-35, F-36, and F-37.

Ford_Prefect

(7,876 posts)
5. It's as bad as it ever was, but declaring it fit for combat closes the door after the barn is empty.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:02 PM
Aug 2016

It locks in certain orders and payments as a verified aircraft. F-35 in all forms is the most useless platform they've built since the B-36. 3 other much less expensive and far more capable combat aircraft could have been on line and working to do the jobs correctly that they have crammed into this one air-frame that can't be flown in the rain, yet. It has to be re-booted several times during warm up on the ground before it can take off, IF it can leave the hanger at all.

This one plane is very nearly as dangerous to defense and foreign policy as Donald Trump.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
6. The F-35 is best suited for night stand-off missions
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:10 PM
Aug 2016

In daylight however, it's going to get its ass handed to it and we're going to lose a lot of brave young men and women because if the AF's insistence to keep pushing this POS forward.



Keep in mind, IIRC that the dogfights were acted out with F-16's laden with external fuel tanks, not jettisoned as they would be in combat. Even with the handicap, the F-16s were victorious time and time again.

F-fwd to 3:00m. Just that quick and you're dead.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
10. So in other worlds rather than calling it the Lightning II they should have called it
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:34 PM
Aug 2016

the Drunken Sparrow?

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
11. Should've just went with...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 04:03 PM
Aug 2016

MIG 29s.

Faster, cheaper, etc.

Lots of components for the F-35 no doubt come from China and/or other sources.

Critical components like landing gear are outsourced for the F-18.
I know this because a friend had to remake the parts here in the US.
His company had a contract to replace the faulty stuff coming in.
Why would any other fighter be different...

forest444

(5,902 posts)
13. But hey, what's a trillion and a half between friends.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 04:24 PM
Aug 2016

It's not like that money could have been put to better use or anything.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
15. Wasted wasted money .. and yet they want to scrap Social Security, and all social programs.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:29 PM
Aug 2016

Why are the American people so fucking stupid? The Military Industrial Money Making Machine has to end.

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