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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 04:44 PM Aug 2016

Two nuns killed in Mississippi

Source: Jackson Clarion-Ledger

Two nuns killed in Mississippi

Jerry Mitchell, The Clarion-Ledger 3:30 p.m. CDT August 25, 2016



Nuns Paula Merrill, left, and Margaret Held were nurse practitioners in Holmes County.

(Photo: From Sisters of Charity video)

Authorities are continuing an investigation of the killing of two nuns who worked at Lexington Medical Clinic and were found Thursday in Holmes County.

Sister Paula Merrill, a nurse practitioner with the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth in Kentucky, and Sister Margaret Held, a nurse practitioner with the School Sisters of St. Francis in Milwaukee, worked with the clinic in their ministry with the poor.

“These were the two sweetest sisters you could imagine," said Father Greg Plata, who worked with the sisters in Holmes County. "It’s so senseless.”

In addition to providing health care, church officials said the nuns distributed books, school supplies and other items to the needy.
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Read more: http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2016/08/25/two-nuns-killed-durant/89352410/

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Two nuns killed in Mississippi (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2016 OP
Oh, how horrendous... hlthe2b Aug 2016 #1
How horrible. Ilsa Aug 2016 #2
Shades of El Salvador. forest444 Aug 2016 #3
Easy there, tiger. Brickbat Aug 2016 #4
I realize it's speculative - but then, so would chalking it up to an accident or natural causes. forest444 Aug 2016 #7
Sure CountAllVotes Aug 2016 #9
Where to begin. forest444 Aug 2016 #10
FReak show very anti-Francis since he espouses what those two nuns were actively doing. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #20
How is explaining the attitude of some people towards nuns bashing the sisters? dflprincess Aug 2016 #23
"...very likely far-right political motive" is a rather far cry from LanternWaste Aug 2016 #11
Yes, it's true Lulu KC Aug 2016 #12
You have objective sources supporting your allegation of the riskiness LanternWaste Aug 2016 #14
Just conversing here Lulu KC Aug 2016 #17
Also, decentralizing into the community-- Lulu KC Aug 2016 #15
that's the first thing that came to my mind also! gopiscrap Aug 2016 #24
I'm going to go with no on this one. a la izquierda Aug 2016 #30
Sad, sad, sad. nt No Vested Interest Aug 2016 #5
My first thought was how could this happen? Who would do this? Were they shot? stabbed? What? YOHABLO Aug 2016 #6
Stabbed in there home Lochloosa Aug 2016 #8
they did so much good juxtaposed Aug 2016 #13
Huge loss for that area. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #18
Oh god, how tragic! smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #19
oh, my. : ( MBS Aug 2016 #26
.. riversedge Aug 2016 #16
I've got relatives all around there, some in law enforcement. I'm trying to find out any info. nolabear Aug 2016 #21
Here's a link to the local news story with more detail. nolabear Aug 2016 #22
Horrible. Lunabell Aug 2016 #25
They had a car; it was taken muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #27
Sisters of Charity are always poor Drahthaardogs Aug 2016 #28
I doubt their house had a sign on saying "Sisters of Charity" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #29
Just a thought cannabis_flower Aug 2016 #31
Suspect arrested Crabby Appleton Aug 2016 #32
So probably not right-wing death squads just like in El Salvador? EL34x4 Aug 2016 #33
What makes you believe that? Unit 001 Aug 2016 #38
Just call it a crazy hunch. EL34x4 Aug 2016 #39
Really? Unit 001 Aug 2016 #41
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #42
This is not a subtle post geek tragedy Aug 2016 #44
I doubt they or their famiilies cared about their killers' political leanings.. whathehell Sep 2016 #51
Definitely a right winger as many DUers said. virgogal Aug 2016 #34
No far-right political motive? melman Aug 2016 #35
We don't really know the motive do we? ucrdem Aug 2016 #36
'They didn't have much' melman Aug 2016 #37
Maybe the motive is to cover up something Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #40
You've read To Kill a Mockingbird? ucrdem Aug 2016 #43
El Salvador...maybe it was an anti-gay hate crime...TKAM... Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #47
He has now confessed, but gave no reason. trof Aug 2016 #45
His travel to El Salvador will soon be discovered nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #46
never mind n/t ucrdem Aug 2016 #48
That doesn't inspire confidence in his guilt. ucrdem Aug 2016 #49
Slain nuns honored in funerals in Kentucky, Wisconsin mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2016 #50
it's just such a sad world ! trench777 Sep 2016 #52

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
2. How horrible.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 04:51 PM
Aug 2016

Two people brought a little light into the world by taking care of the needs of others.

So much evil in this world.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
7. I realize it's speculative - but then, so would chalking it up to an accident or natural causes.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:14 PM
Aug 2016

I lived in Mississippi for about 10 years, and I can tell you that while most Mississippians would never dream of taking out their political disagreements violently (and most of them are passionately political, all appearances to the contrary), there is that extremist 5%-10% who would.

And Catholic nuns have two strikes against them as far as Southern RW extremists are concerned: one, they represent a faith many of them don't even consider "Christian" (I kid you not); and two, they're often seen as "socialist agitators" because of their concern for social justice and the poor in particular - especially the colored poor.

This latter sentiment has intensified quite a bit since Pope Francis took office, courtesy of the good people at Faux News.

So, while we don't yet know what happened to these Sisters, we certainly can't rule out a politically-motivated hit. Least of all in this emotionally charged election year.

CountAllVotes

(20,867 posts)
9. Sure
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:21 PM
Aug 2016

Nice little bash job on some nuns that were murdered.

Right-wingers hate nuns? Since when exactly?

Seriously, I do hope that both of them RIP!

As for pope Francis, why don't you leave him OUT of this nightmare. He does not have a role here.

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
23. How is explaining the attitude of some people towards nuns bashing the sisters?
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 10:43 PM
Aug 2016

Are you aware that it wasn't too long ago that the Klan included Catholics as one of the groups they hated? (Something that always made me proud when I was a practicing Catholic.)

Forest444 was merely speculating on attitudes that may have led to the violence against these two nuns and how the current pope with his more Christ-like views of the poor is not appreciated in some circles.


 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. "...very likely far-right political motive" is a rather far cry from
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:47 PM
Aug 2016

"...very likely far-right political motive" is a rather far cry from "we certainly can't rule out a politically-motivated hit..." A far enough cry in fact, as to be accurately called Moving the Goalposts.

Additionally, we should review how many Caucasian religious members have been assassinated in the U.S. due solely to their religion. Being from, and maintaining my residence in the deep south as well, I believe you overstate the case against anti-Catholic sentiment; the aggregate numbers simply do not support your sentiment in regards to any direct or overt action taken against the Catholic church.

If the victims were black, lesbians or Muslims, I'd entertain the speculation (vis-vis violence against minorities, but not the church). As it stands however and lacking additional and relevant information, robbery may be the most statistically sound motive.

Lulu KC

(2,561 posts)
12. Yes, it's true
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:49 PM
Aug 2016

Little known by the public at large if they haven't been paying close attention. They live risky lives, unless they are part of some anti-Vatican II group.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. You have objective sources supporting your allegation of the riskiness
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:51 PM
Aug 2016

You have objective sources supporting your allegation of the riskiness of being a Catholic in the contemporary U.S. coastal states?

Lulu KC

(2,561 posts)
15. Also, decentralizing into the community--
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:52 PM
Aug 2016

in the spirit of service leaves them more vulnerable than living in larger convent communities. Those are still very safety conscious.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
30. I'm going to go with no on this one.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 01:44 PM
Aug 2016

Ministering to the poor here, even in deeply conservative places, isn't a death sentence.

Jeez.
This is not El Salvador. We are not in an active civil war, in case you haven't noticed.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
6. My first thought was how could this happen? Who would do this? Were they shot? stabbed? What?
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:10 PM
Aug 2016

So none of these links give much info.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Oh god, how tragic!
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:58 PM
Aug 2016

What a loss! They did so much for that community, who will fill their shoes now? What amazing women!

nolabear

(41,938 posts)
21. I've got relatives all around there, some in law enforcement. I'm trying to find out any info.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:28 PM
Aug 2016

I won't speculate.People do horrendous things for all kinds of reasons and I imagine they looked like an easy target for someone for some reason.

The whole thought of people who dedicate themselves to doing good falling prey to the worst in human nature is heartbreaking.

Lunabell

(6,046 posts)
25. Horrible.
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:09 AM
Aug 2016

What could possibly be the motive? They have no money and only help the poor. Who could possibly want to harm them? This is heart breaking.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,272 posts)
27. They had a car; it was taken
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 05:39 AM
Aug 2016

That was in the OP report some time ago; it's now been updated to say the car has been found about a mile away. They probably did have some money, just like everyone who lives in a house and runs a car has money, because you need to buy things to live. The story does say "authorities suspect robbery may have been the motive." They may not have had much money, or possessions that could be resold, but criminals are not all masterminds who pre-plan their crimes perfectly.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,272 posts)
29. I doubt their house had a sign on saying "Sisters of Charity"
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 06:30 AM
Aug 2016

or that the house obviously had less inside worth stealing, when seen from the outside.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
31. Just a thought
Fri Aug 26, 2016, 03:35 PM
Aug 2016

Judging from their lack of nun looking habits and the fact that they lived together, do you think it could be a hate crime and the perpetrator thought they were lesbians?

Crabby Appleton

(5,231 posts)
32. Suspect arrested
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 02:00 AM
Aug 2016

A suspect has been arrested in the killings of two nuns whose bodies were found in their Mississippi home Thursday, authorities said late Friday.



Rodney Earl Sanders, 46, was charged with two counts of capital murder "after an exhaustive interview" Friday night, the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation said in a statement.

Sanders, of Kosciusko, is charged in connection with the killings of Sister Margaret Held and Sister Paula Merrill, both 68, who were found dead in their home in the rural town of Durant Thursday morning, the bureau

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rodney-sanders-arrested-charged-capital-murder-killing-mississippi-nuns-n638651

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
39. Just call it a crazy hunch.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 04:56 PM
Aug 2016

Suspect doesn't really strike me as a right-wing El Salvadoran death squad member.

Looks like a typical run-of-the-mill shiftless loser who'd stab his own grandma for $5 worth of crack.

Response to Unit 001 (Reply #41)

whathehell

(29,037 posts)
51. I doubt they or their famiilies cared about their killers' political leanings..
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:39 PM
Sep 2016

so excuse me if I don't feel better now.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
36. We don't really know the motive do we?
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 02:57 PM
Aug 2016

They didn't have much, and their car wasn't taken far. If robbery was the motive it would be in a chop shop by now. In any case Mr. Sanders hasn't been tried and sometimes when there's a lot of community outrage the wrong people are accused.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
43. You've read To Kill a Mockingbird?
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:29 AM
Aug 2016

In addition to being a popular plot device innocent people are regularly convicted of heinous crimes they didn't commit, and sometimes even exonerated:

http://www.innocenceproject.org/latest/

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
47. El Salvador...maybe it was an anti-gay hate crime...TKAM...
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:23 AM
Aug 2016

Wild.

A DU murder mystery program would be the most entertaining thing on TV. Too bad there isn't one.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
49. That doesn't inspire confidence in his guilt.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:28 PM
Aug 2016

I think we've all seen enough police dramas to know how suspects can be coerced into giving false confessions, but here's a video to explain how it's done:

http://www.innocenceproject.org/causes/false-confessions-admissions/

To give an idea of how often it happens, the Innocence Project, which steps in only after a conviction has been handed down, and only where there's sufficient DNA evidence to disprove it, states at the link above that "more than 1 out of 4 people wrongfully convicted but later exonerated by DNA evidence made a false confession or incriminating statement."

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
50. Slain nuns honored in funerals in Kentucky, Wisconsin
Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:18 PM
Sep 2016
Slain nuns honored in funerals in Kentucky, Wisconsin

Bruce Schreiner And Gretchen Ehlke, Associated Press 5:59 p.m. CDT September 2, 2016

BARDSTOWN, Ky. - Eulogized in the church where she took her vows decades ago, a slain nun was remembered Friday for her devotion to the poor and for the Donald Duck impression she used to comfort her young patients in Mississippi.

Sister Paula Merrill was laid to rest in Kentucky and her long-time friend and co-worker, Sister Margaret Held, was mourned in Wisconsin on Friday, a week after the nuns were stabbed to death in their home in Durant, Mississippi.

“They needed the people of Mississippi, and the people of Mississippi needed them,” said Darlene Nicgorski, a friend of Held’s for 50 years.

The Roman Catholic nuns worked as nurse practitioners at a medical clinic in Lexington, Mississippi, one of the poorest spots in the nation. They often treated uninsured patients with diabetes and other chronic conditions. Both were 68.
 

trench777

(5 posts)
52. it's just such a sad world !
Sat Sep 3, 2016, 04:19 AM
Sep 2016

People have to remember that the father Almighty said to the Word which is Christ with us ; That prior to the days of Noah flood ! The father said to the word that it had Grieved him that he had made man ; Because the world was filled with Violence ! My Sincere Condolences to the Families of these Ladies !

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