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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:19 PM Aug 2016

Debbie Wasserman Schultz wins primary

Source: New York Times

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz won her Democratic primary tonight, outlasting a challenger who raised more than $3.3 million, much of it from Bernie Sanders supporters seeking to defeat the former Democratic National Committee chairwoman.

Wasserman Schultz, a six-term congresswoman, had 58 percent of the vote in Florida's 23rd District, with 56 percent of precincts reporting, when The Associated Press called the race. Tim Canova, a law professor, had 43 percent of the vote.

Canova leapt into the national spotlight after Sanders sent out fundraising emails on his behalf earlier this year. But he was unable to overcome Wasserman Schultz’s standing back home, in a district Hillary Clinton won overwhelmingly in the Democratic presidential primary.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/florida-congressional-23-primary-wasserman-schultz-canova

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz wins primary (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #2
Horrible for Trump louis c Aug 2016 #3
How is voting for Canova instead of DWS undermining Clinton? jg10003 Aug 2016 #16
Crickets, I expect. n/t Beartracks Aug 2016 #52
K&R Grassy Knoll Aug 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #5
Love it. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #6
Happy to hear this. skylucy Aug 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #8
Hardly the truth. Well her District believes she is plenty Progressive misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #13
Yes, to them she's done a great job. Congrats Debbie! George II Aug 2016 #15
I live 1 mile from her district. jg10003 Aug 2016 #28
Tell them whatever you want. This day belonged to DWS. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #33
Well as we know it is all about loyalty. Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #69
the payday loan industry is happy tonight. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2016 #79
And so are real Democrats louis c Aug 2016 #80
Good! Cha Aug 2016 #9
Hi Cha. I am happy also. riversedge Aug 2016 #11
Hey Aloha, rivers! Cha Aug 2016 #37
My Cha! misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #17
Well said, mister.. Eloquent as always! Cha Aug 2016 #38
Good, Indeed! Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #18
Hey, Aloha Stuck! Cha Aug 2016 #39
The troubled spring and early summer are a foggy memory Stuckinthebush Aug 2016 #71
+1 SunSeeker Aug 2016 #30
.. Cha Aug 2016 #40
Ditto, Cha! lunamagica Aug 2016 #32
It's good to see you, too, lunamagica! Cha Aug 2016 #41
Congratulations to DWS. Now onto win FL for Hillary. riversedge Aug 2016 #10
Hurray for more neoliberalism. geomon666 Aug 2016 #12
More for us. Nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #14
LOL! MADem Aug 2016 #45
Neon-liberal corporo-ap•pa•ratus emulatorloo Aug 2016 #20
Label it whatever rolls off the tongue at the moment. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #21
I'll second that motion--------------------on the champagne turbinetree Aug 2016 #24
Tired rhetoric Cary Aug 2016 #27
and how exactly is opposition to the treaty with Iran? BainsBane Aug 2016 #63
You mean pandering for votes on a Trump loving teabagger's show.... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #19
Ya, genius move. That'll win over some Dem Voters.. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #23
+1,000,000 Can't imagine WHO thought that was a plan.... nt MADem Aug 2016 #43
It's really too bad mdbl Aug 2016 #22
No. You want a shake up? Take a look at the Republican Party. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #25
There's a difference between blind loyalty and supporting a political agenda mdbl Aug 2016 #70
I'm so excited I think I'll go get a payday loan. jalan48 Aug 2016 #26
Have you ever needed one? GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #44
Thanks for the advice. jalan48 Aug 2016 #48
Then we are in the same boat GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #49
I agree there needs to be a better system or more regulation. jalan48 Aug 2016 #53
Getting rid of payday lenders without giving them a chance to clean up their act will just MADem Aug 2016 #67
Agree 100% GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #68
/r/PoliticalRevolution on suicide watch NuclearDem Aug 2016 #29
Yay! PoliticalMalcontent Aug 2016 #31
Congratulations, Debbie ! Way ta Go! c588415 Aug 2016 #34
I am happy for DWS, she has worked hard on the primaries and now is rewarded by Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #35
Well color me surprised, not. nt retrowire Aug 2016 #36
It was a decisive win, too. MADem Aug 2016 #42
Love this post Madem. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #51
I find her extremely effective--and no one works harder. nt MADem Aug 2016 #58
DWS signifiantly UNDERperformed Clinton Jim Lane Aug 2016 #56
Sixty - Forty is a decisive primary win, particularly when there were a lot of new voters who MADem Aug 2016 #57
And 58% is less than 68%. Shall we keep repeatin ourselves until one of us tires? Jim Lane Aug 2016 #59
I'm celebrating the win--you can do as you please! nt MADem Aug 2016 #60
We're celebrating different things. Jim Lane Aug 2016 #61
Hey, shit happens. She prevailed. DECISIVELY. That is all that will be remembered MADem Aug 2016 #62
We are not the one's crying right now. William769 Aug 2016 #66
Yay! murielm99 Aug 2016 #46
They can't touch her anymore. She's walking proudly back to the House to misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #47
disliking Debbie does not + working against Hillary DonCoquixote Aug 2016 #50
In politics appearances count for a lot and W-S losing would have spelled disaster. ucrdem Aug 2016 #54
One correction though GummyBearz Aug 2016 #72
Can't think why she'd favor Clinton. ucrdem Aug 2016 #73
k/r Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #55
This was never about sanders v clinton DiverDave Aug 2016 #64
Karma, got to love it! William769 Aug 2016 #65
Boo, hiss!! lark Aug 2016 #74
Canova's refusal to concede and his name-calling murielm99 Aug 2016 #75
What a classless tool--I'll bet the reason Sanders DIDN'T stump for him is that he realized his MADem Aug 2016 #78
Yikes... bullet dodged? Bradical79 Sep 2016 #84
I suspect when Clinton wins in November, the people of that district are going to have to go looking hughee99 Aug 2016 #76
very doubtful obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #81
I think Clinton is going to put people she trusts in important positions, I don't think she trusts hughee99 Aug 2016 #82
The only good think about wasserman winning is that she will be kept in her little box and Purveyor Aug 2016 #77
It's funny how politics is such a game to some mdbl Aug 2016 #83

Response to onehandle (Original post)

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
3. Horrible for Trump
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:33 PM
Aug 2016

Anybody trying to undermine the Hillary campaign at this point in the election is unwittingly pulling for Donald Trump.

psst.......the primary is over.

jg10003

(974 posts)
16. How is voting for Canova instead of DWS undermining Clinton?
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:09 PM
Aug 2016

Besides, here in Broward County, Clinton will get at least 60% of the vote.

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Response to onehandle (Original post)

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
13. Hardly the truth. Well her District believes she is plenty Progressive
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:04 PM
Aug 2016

They voted for her.
She serves her District.

You don't have to like her but to say shes not progressive nor progressive enough, according to your definition of "progressive" may be a bit biased.

Her District clearly loves her as do millions of supporters across this nation.

jg10003

(974 posts)
28. I live 1 mile from her district.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:46 PM
Aug 2016

DWS is in the 23rd district, I'm in the 24th. The 23rd has a very high percentage of senior citizens (I think it's the second or third highest in the country). These are people in their 80's and 90's (including my parents and several aunts and uncles) who are unlikely to vote for a challenger to a well known incumbent. They see DWS as a nice Jewish girl who is the over-achieving child of their dreams. But my relatives are very surprised when I tell them about her positions on payday loans, everglades restoration, medical marijuana (supported by 57% of Floridians including many seniors), and that she has a Swiss bank account.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
33. Tell them whatever you want. This day belonged to DWS.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:58 PM
Aug 2016

And her loyalty to HRC's plans & policies is far more valuable than all the gossip you care to send out there.
Btw..
Where's the link to the bitter bias you just brought here?

Happy day for Dem loyalty.
Thank you District 23!!

Kudo s to DWS

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
17. My Cha!
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:19 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:21 PM - Edit history (1)

I've missed you.

What a great night for DWS. Righteous redemption for all the b.s. she endured.
She proved she is far more fit for the job than some lightweight wishy washy whiner who arrived late to the Party & expected to win a prize for just showing up.

This woman has the fighting strength that will serve her President Hillary very well in DC.

2 months till this hell of a year is over.
Women need to run the show in DC for a long time.
We have some amazing women candidates who have definately had to earn their place in history, running against men who consistantly showed miserable weaknesses.

Congrats to DWS

Nice to see you Cha




Stuckinthebush

(10,816 posts)
71. The troubled spring and early summer are a foggy memory
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 07:43 AM
Aug 2016

Ha! Thing sure have changed around here! It's so....peaceful!

I'm happy for DWS and for our next president, Mrs Clinton.

I hope you are well, Cha!

Cha

(295,899 posts)
41. It's good to see you, too, lunamagica!
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:11 PM
Aug 2016


Congrats to DWS! Who President Obama, John Lewis, and Hillary endorsed!

emulatorloo

(43,979 posts)
20. Neon-liberal corporo-ap•pa•ratus
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:26 PM
Aug 2016

speak English not meaningless bullshit jargon, you'll impress people more that way.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
21. Label it whatever rolls off the tongue at the moment.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:26 PM
Aug 2016

It doesn't matter one bit. Because every single woman in this 2016 race has had to play this game harder, quicker & yes, that backwards dance expected by the mysogynistic culture that has ragged on them since this race began.

Say whatever you want about DWS, but she has well earned her seat in the United States House of Representatives.

We'll proudly take her fighting spirit over some guy who ran a weak campaign and expected someone to show up with a lifeline when the going got tough.

DEM Women Rule 2016.

On to Nov 8th

BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
63. and how exactly is opposition to the treaty with Iran?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:02 AM
Aug 2016

constitute a challenge to neoliberalism? Or do minor issues like empire and war pale in comparison to who someone endorsed in an already settled primary?

And how exactly would a victory of a professor of finance law in a political primary deal a blow against capitalism?


Tommy_Carcetti

(43,079 posts)
19. You mean pandering for votes on a Trump loving teabagger's show....
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:21 PM
Aug 2016

...didn't help Tim Canova?

I'm shocked. Truly shocked.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
23. Ya, genius move. That'll win over some Dem Voters..
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:34 PM
Aug 2016

..said No serious person ever.

Oh well. Nice try, no cigar.

mdbl

(4,972 posts)
22. It's really too bad
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:28 PM
Aug 2016

Things could have used a bit of a shake up. Career politicians aren't always better.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
25. No. You want a shake up? Take a look at the Republican Party.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:40 PM
Aug 2016

A President Hillary deserves loyalty from those she knows will always have her back to undo the years of damage done to this country and around the world by the Republican Party.

mdbl

(4,972 posts)
70. There's a difference between blind loyalty and supporting a political agenda
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 06:53 AM
Aug 2016

Just because someone other than DWS would be elected doesn't mean they won't support the Democratic candidate. I would, however, feel better if the people in position like DWS would be more of a supporter of a progressive agenda and not a toady.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
44. Have you ever needed one?
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:20 PM
Aug 2016

Until we can create a system for the poor to have access to needed cash, payday loans are all there are. And they need to be regulated. The key to creating a system for the poor to have access to cash is a Democratic congress and president. Which we do not now have.

Getting rid of them because you know better than the 'poor' in the height of elitism.

jalan48

(13,797 posts)
48. Thanks for the advice.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:28 PM
Aug 2016

However, I grew up in a family where it happened many times so I'm well aware what it's like to be poor and need financing for food and rent or have no place to live. Good try with the "elitism" though.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
49. Then we are in the same boat
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:33 PM
Aug 2016

Or were. I am fortunately not poor now.

What would your family had done had you not had payday lenders? Go hungry or be evicted. They suck ASS. But until we pay our low paid workers a decent wage and come up with a way to get cheap money(not free) to low paid workers, like perhaps a postal bank, what choices are there?

This is a complicated issue as most are, and that is the weakness of our system of sound bites and with me or against me. Sometimes there is just not good option.

Have a nice evening.

jalan48

(13,797 posts)
53. I agree there needs to be a better system or more regulation.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:59 PM
Aug 2016

Payday lending is predatory capitalism. The lenders prey on desperate and uninformed people and families in need. Hopefully, the new Congress can address this issue.

Have a nice evening also.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
67. Getting rid of payday lenders without giving them a chance to clean up their act will just
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:58 AM
Aug 2016

drive desperate people into the arms of loan sharks who have NO rules at all.

We saw this happen years ago when we put certain payday lenders "OFF LIMITS" in the USN.

We don't teach financial literacy in schools, and we really need to do that.

We also need to put low-cost banking in public access areas, like post offices....just the basics; a savings account, a place to buy a money order, a place to deposit a paycheck, that kind of thing.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
35. I am happy for DWS, she has worked hard on the primaries and now is rewarded by
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:02 PM
Aug 2016

the folks at home to continue to work for them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
42. It was a decisive win, too.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:17 PM
Aug 2016

I would not be surprised if she becomes a highly visible leader in the House in the years to come. Why? Her PEERS (who elect their peers to these sorts of duties) really, really LIKE her. They know she's a tireless worker and she has enormous intelligence to go with that determination.

Good win!


I see (unsurprisingly) that Grayson got his ass handed to him, as well.

Harry Reid smiles. Jon Tester says "I told you so!"

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
51. Love this post Madem.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:37 PM
Aug 2016

I too see DWS being offered a well earned place of priority.
I have much respect for her, holding her head high & doing the right thing for her Party in this critical & historic election.
She has well earned her wings and absolute respect.

Love her strength.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
56. DWS signifiantly UNDERperformed Clinton
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:32 AM
Aug 2016

Canova's biggest problem was that he was in the wrong district. Canova versus Wasserman Schultz was widely seen as a proxy for Sanders versus Clinton, and Canova was running in a district where Clinton won the primary with 68% of the vote. DWS fell about ten points short of that.

Of course it would have been nice if the progressive candidate had won the nomination, but it was always a long shot. DWS had the advantage of incumbency as well as that of being on the right side of the perceived "proxy" fight. We'll have to settle for having given her a serious primary challenge for the first time in her career. Maybe that will help her "evolve" some in her next term in Congress.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
57. Sixty - Forty is a decisive primary win, particularly when there were a lot of new voters who
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:44 AM
Aug 2016

signed up to beat up on DWS.

You beat someone by double digits, that's plenty.

Canova's biggest problem is he didn't understand his constituency.

I think it's great that the best candidate won. Anyone who panders on rightwing radio for votes is not "the best candidate" and is likely a faux progressive, too.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
59. And 58% is less than 68%. Shall we keep repeatin ourselves until one of us tires?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:32 AM
Aug 2016

The new point in your post is that there were a lot of new registrations, presumably galvanized by the Canova campaign. I hadn't heard that but it's good news. If Canova and his volunteers registered a lot of new Democrats who preferred the candidate who was against fracking, in favor of banning military assault rifles, etc., then presumably those new voters will break heavily for Clinton over Trump in November. Good work, Tim!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
61. We're celebrating different things.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:48 AM
Aug 2016

A year ago, no one expected Wasserman Schultz to have a primary challenger at all, let alone one who (as a first-time candidate) got more than 40% of the vote.

When well-entrenched elected officials have to defend their positions and even debate their challengers, I think democracy benefits. I've never been a fan of coronations.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
62. Hey, shit happens. She prevailed. DECISIVELY. That is all that will be remembered
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:55 AM
Aug 2016

once the next session begins. Canova imploded pretty badly towards the latter part of the race; if it had gone on for much longer he likely would have lost by more. All that hand wringing and whining, that "what in hell did he do with that three million that people sent him," and complaining that Bernie wouldn't come and save him--it was unseemly.


She's well - entrenched, as you say .... and she still won. She wasn't "coronated," she WON. She demonstrated better leadership skills, and she didn't whine, cry, or appeal to rightwingers in flopsweat desperation in the 11th hour.

People LIKE her and they voted for her. That's the bottom line.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
47. They can't touch her anymore. She's walking proudly back to the House to
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:28 PM
Aug 2016

..loyally serve her friend, Madam President Hillary.
Yippee!!!

Hi murielm99

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
50. disliking Debbie does not + working against Hillary
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:36 PM
Aug 2016

Debbie has done a very fine job of that herself by being incompetent and treacherous, poor enough to get caught working against other democrats. Excuse me while I do nto see how the person that lost us so many seats in state houses and congress is working for democrats; the GOP wishes they could pay someone to do as bad a job as she did.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
54. In politics appearances count for a lot and W-S losing would have spelled disaster.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:13 AM
Aug 2016

Thanks to Sanders' strange vendetta she's a nationally recognized Clinton ally, maybe the best known after Bill and Chelsea, and getting hammered in Florida would have put the whole state in play. And that would be demoralizing and scary as hell.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
72. One correction though
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 09:24 AM
Aug 2016

She is a nationally recognized Clinton ally because she used the DNC to throw the primary in Clinton's favor and was exposed for it

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
73. Can't think why she'd favor Clinton.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:22 AM
Aug 2016

Kidding. But what everyone saw was the DNC under DWS graciously letting Sanders run against Hills as an Independent. As I've said before, it seemed to me at the time like a terrible idea, potentially fatal. It wasn't, but it did a lot of damage, to DWS for one, Boxer for another (I won't speculate on anyone's issues here but sheesh) and if Trump wasn't such a crap candidate it might well have been fatal. That's why we're so relieved she didn't lose.

DiverDave

(4,874 posts)
64. This was never about sanders v clinton
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:12 AM
Aug 2016

This was about getting rid of a DINO that managed to give the house to the repukes, while enriching herself.
You all say that the primary is over, but keep bringing it up.
dws was a disaster for the Democratic party.
To cheer her win is to cheer the stinking DLC and 3rd way.
Canova would have brought real Democratic values.
Not cover for payday loan sharks

murielm99

(30,655 posts)
75. Canova's refusal to concede and his name-calling
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

are just as unclassy as his entire campaign and the attitude of his supporters here.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article98944892.html

I am so glad she won instead of this whiner.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
78. What a classless tool--I'll bet the reason Sanders DIDN'T stump for him is that he realized his
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:05 PM
Aug 2016

error in endorsing the jerk in the first place.

DEMOCRATS--real ones, anyway--don't behave like this. This is just shittiness:

Bernie Sanders backed Canova and helped him raise money from donors nationwide, but never came to campaign for him in South Florida.

Canova hadn’t conceded shortly before 10 p.m. when he spoke to reporters at Kasa Champet, a Haitian restaurant in Pembroke Pines. Although he said he was in a “wait-and-see mode” it was clear that he was far behind.

“Life knocks us on our ass a lot of times,” he said. “Everyone gets knocked on their butt a lot of times. The test of character is getting back up on our feet and this movement has been knocked off its feet time and time again.”

But even when it became clear later that he had lost, Canova didn’t go quietly into the night, refusing to concede.

“I will concede Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a corporate stooge,” he said.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article98944892.html#storylink=cpy


DWS knocked him on his ass, and he needs to stay there. Or go hang out with his right wing radio buddies.

Putz!
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
84. Yikes... bullet dodged?
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 01:36 AM
Sep 2016

I'm not a DWS fan by any means, but it does seem unlikely someone with that combination of rotten temperment and inexperience would have done us any favors.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
76. I suspect when Clinton wins in November, the people of that district are going to have to go looking
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:45 PM
Aug 2016

for a new Rep. DWS will get a job in the Clinton administration.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
82. I think Clinton is going to put people she trusts in important positions, I don't think she trusts
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:52 PM
Aug 2016

a lot of people, but I think DWS has demonstrated that Clinton can trust her.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
77. The only good think about wasserman winning is that she will be kept in her little box and
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:47 PM
Aug 2016

a cabinet position won't be pending.

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