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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:20 PM Aug 2016

Patrick Murphy beats Alan Grayson to face Marco Rubio for Senate

Source: AP

U.S. Rep. Patrick Murphy has won the Democratic nomination to face Republican Sen. Marco Rubio.

Murphy defeated fiery liberal Rep. Alan Grayson on Tuesday, aided by the backing of President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid.

Murphy appeared confident in the final weeks of the election, virtually ignoring Grayson and focusing instead on Rubio.

Murphy was first elected to the House in 2012, defeating incumbent tea party conservative Allen West.

While Grayson has more consistently voted for Democratic priorities and Obama's agenda, many party leaders thought he was unelectable because of his brash demeanor.

Murphy has criticized Rubio as caring more about his political ambitions then his constituents, while Republicans have criticized Murphy for embellishing his resume and lack of experience.

Read more: http://jacksonville.com/news/2016-08-30/story/patrick-murphy-beats-alan-grayson-face-marco-rubio-senate

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Patrick Murphy beats Alan Grayson to face Marco Rubio for Senate (Original Post) ErikJ Aug 2016 OP
Isn't Rubio's "experience" basically ditching the job? ananda Aug 2016 #1
Not only "brash demeanor" but the trashy treatment he's given his ex-wife over the years. George II Aug 2016 #2
100% this -- even before the beating video surfaced obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #34
Tough luck Alan Grayson. rgbecker Aug 2016 #3
I loved his Republican health plan on the floor of the House ErikJ Aug 2016 #5
Presumably "me" rather than the insect and "attacks on" rather than "of" (from). :) Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #19
+1 nt riderinthestorm Aug 2016 #28
Murphy has criticized Rubio as caring more about his political ambitions then (sic) his constituents Coyotl Aug 2016 #4
Wow, good catch. ErikJ Aug 2016 #6
My day job, I work for the Grammar Police. Coyotl Aug 2016 #7
You might be a copy editor in disguise. ErikJ Aug 2016 #8
Yeah, me too. tavernier Aug 2016 #9
crappily Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #18
Great police work! :-) Coyotl Aug 2016 #23
:) Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #25
I only work in the spelling department. tavernier Aug 2016 #33
Grayson was a favorite on the morning show on KPFK The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #10
Patrick was Obama's guy EricMaundry Aug 2016 #11
Wonderful. We get to choose between a present and former Repuke in Nov. cureautismnow Aug 2016 #12
Yep. It is really sad. I hate that the DNC supports conservadems Mojorabbit Aug 2016 #27
and they can not figure out why i do not and will never contribute to the dnc dembotoz Aug 2016 #35
I will never EVER support the DNC. Nt a la izquierda Aug 2016 #41
Good choice. Nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #13
It can't be a good choice to ever nominate the most right wing candidate on the Dem ballot. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #31
It would be nice to knock off Rubio and gain another seat. Rubio is not really interested in Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #14
Which is why it's tragic that we nominated someone who can't ever be popular. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #32
Really hate to see Alan go - packman Aug 2016 #15
personal Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #17
Too bad the best candidate finished third. n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #16
Which means we have no chance of winning that seat. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #20
You know you are living the dream GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #22
Whatever you say ablut Grayson, Murphy shouldn't even BE a Dem. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #29
Only GOPers are allowed to be "brash" nikto Aug 2016 #21
Brash... GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #24
Murphy will vote against anything progressive. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #30
His voting record doesn't support that claim. onenote Aug 2016 #36
This will not be an easy race... brooklynite Aug 2016 #26
Correlating primary results to general election results is a mistake onenote Aug 2016 #37
His "brash demeanor" isn't what sank him Bradical79 Aug 2016 #38
Good. Glad to see his political career come to an end. beaglelover Aug 2016 #39
Too bad LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #40

ananda

(28,834 posts)
1. Isn't Rubio's "experience" basically ditching the job?
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:23 PM
Aug 2016

I don't like Murphy as well as Grayson, but a slug would
be light years better than Rubio.

rgbecker

(4,820 posts)
3. Tough luck Alan Grayson.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:29 PM
Aug 2016

It's hard being outspoken even when that is exactly what is needed from progressive candidates. Alan often had be jumping out my chair cheering his fearless attacks of the GOP crazies.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
5. I loved his Republican health plan on the floor of the House
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:33 PM
Aug 2016

Probably the best attack ever on Republicans
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Murphy has criticized Rubio as caring more about his political ambitions then (sic) his constituents
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:32 PM
Aug 2016

Aren't journalists suppose to know the difference between then and than?

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
8. You might be a copy editor in disguise.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:40 PM
Aug 2016

My oldest sister was a copy editor for Stanford. Perfect job for her. Dot your i's and cross your t's with her.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
10. Grayson was a favorite on the morning show on KPFK
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:41 PM
Aug 2016

He is an outspoken progressive, unfortunately he wrapped his BVDs around his ankles with his personal issues.
He is a wealthy man with some good convictions, I wish he was also a wise man.
Alas.

cureautismnow

(1,676 posts)
12. Wonderful. We get to choose between a present and former Repuke in Nov.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:45 PM
Aug 2016

Just like the last governor's race.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
27. Yep. It is really sad. I hate that the DNC supports conservadems
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:50 AM
Aug 2016

it seems over progressives time and time and time again. It is one of the reasons this state is in such a mess.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
31. It can't be a good choice to ever nominate the most right wing candidate on the Dem ballot.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:09 AM
Aug 2016

We all know Murphy is too bland and passionless to win or to do anything worthwhile if he does win.

Nothing positive ever comes of Dems nominating former Republicans. If you start on the right, it's impossible to turn progressibve or even moderate.

We're doomed to lose to Rubio by twenty points now.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. It would be nice to knock off Rubio and gain another seat. Rubio is not really interested in
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:14 PM
Aug 2016

serving in the Senate.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
32. Which is why it's tragic that we nominated someone who can't ever be popular.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:12 AM
Aug 2016

No one in Florida is stoked that a Reaganite is the Democratic nominee.

Even if he wins, Murphy would just spend his term voting against HRC oon everything that matters.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
15. Really hate to see Alan go -
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:35 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:29 PM - Edit history (1)

He started off like a upcoming star and faded away when his personal life became public. A shame.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
20. Which means we have no chance of winning that seat.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:29 PM
Aug 2016

It's impossible for Murphy to inspire enough enthusiasm to beat Rubio. And it's all going to be the fault of the "we HAVE to nominate centrists" crowd.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. You know you are living the dream
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:52 PM
Aug 2016

When the candidate you support gets 17% of the Democratic vote and you think he was the best candidate to take on Rubio.

Grayson is an ass. I would love to see him go Green! Would fit right in with their type.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
29. Whatever you say ablut Grayson, Murphy shouldn't even BE a Dem.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:02 AM
Aug 2016

(Grayson brought his defeat on himself through horrible behavior...the positions he held had nothing to do with it)but of all the people they could choose instead, there was no good reason to nominate a conservative who had LOST his House seat.

Murphy can't beat Rubio. We doomed ourselves to six more years of Rubio by nominating him. No one who wants a progressive Senate is celebrating this result. It means Florida will never have a decent senator again.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
21. Only GOPers are allowed to be "brash"
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:40 PM
Aug 2016

"NEW" Democrats are expected to be barefoot and polite, and
fall in line with TPP and other corporate priorites.

Then, they will be rewarded by the elite$,
just like GOPers used to be.


This is progress?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. Brash...
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 11:58 PM
Aug 2016

And being a cheating, wife beating asshole with hidden off shore accounts are totally different.

The only thing sweeter than this asshole losing is that his hotty-of-the-month also lost. Resoundingly.


Hilllary is brash. Proposing a health care plan way more progressive that ACA in 1993 that was killed by fellow Democrats. Kaine is brash. Taking on the NRA in Virginia and winning. That is the kind of Brash I can get behind.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
30. Murphy will vote against anything progressive.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:05 AM
Aug 2016

No one who voted for Murphy wants anything worthwhile to get passed by the Senate. It's always pointless to nominate conservatives as Dems.

onenote

(42,585 posts)
36. His voting record doesn't support that claim.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:45 AM
Aug 2016

If he's as conservative as you claim, you would expect him to be among the small number of Democrats voting for recent legislation such as the "Conscience Protection Act" -- the anti-choice crowd's most recent wet dream legislation. But he wasn't. And he wasn't among the handful of Democrats that joined with repubs in supporting a number of other conservative house bills.

But those are just facts, I guess.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
26. This will not be an easy race...
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:29 AM
Aug 2016

1.29 M votes in the Republican Primary; 1.035 M votes in the Democratic Primary.

onenote

(42,585 posts)
37. Correlating primary results to general election results is a mistake
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:55 AM
Aug 2016

Florida 2012: Republican Senate Primary: 1.127 million votes cast
Democratic Senate Primary: 876,000 votes cast

Florida 2012: Senate General election:
Democratic candidate: 4.5 million votes
Republican candidate: 3.4 million votes.

So the 251,000 vote "deficit" in the primary election turned into a 1 million vote win in the General.

Over 8.5 million voters went to the polls in Florida in 2012 -- the far far lower turnout for the primary is not a predictor of the result in the General.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
38. His "brash demeanor" isn't what sank him
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 12:47 PM
Aug 2016

Sure, it's gotten him in trouble a couple times, but I'm more apt to think it was his mounting personal problems and perceived hypocricy when it comes to his finances and professional background that did him in. Voting record isn't going to matter in a Democratic primary when people see him as an abusive unhinged millionaire.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
40. Too bad
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:27 PM
Aug 2016

The Democrats need more, not less, brash reps. that can dish it back to rude Republicans. And its only getting more volatile. He was needed. We don't have enough of those brave enough and witty enough to stand up and throw their ugly lies back in their faces.

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