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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:20 PM Jan 2019

First on CNN: Hundreds of TSA screeners, working without pay, calling out sick at major airports

Source: CNN

Hundreds of Transportation Security Administration officers, who are required to work without paychecks through the partial government shutdown, have called out from work this week from at least four major airports, according to two senior agency officials and three TSA employee union officials.

The mass call outs could inevitably mean air travel is less secure, especially as the shutdown enters its second week with no clear end to the political stalemate in sight.

"This will definitely affect the flying public who we (are) sworn to protect," Hydrick Thomas, president of the national TSA employee union, told CNN.

At New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport, as many as 170 TSA employees have called out each day this week, Thomas tells CNN. Officers from a morning shift were required to work extra hours to cover the gaps.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/shutdown-tsa-screening/index.html

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First on CNN: Hundreds of TSA screeners, working without pay, calling out sick at major airports (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2019 OP
Shouldn't it be "calling in sick" ? oberliner Jan 2019 #1
Yes. You call in to the workplace to tell them you'll be out sick. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #3
I wonder if they will change the headline oberliner Jan 2019 #6
yeah, you call in to work. mobeau69 Jan 2019 #4
We say' called out' more often. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #28
We always said "called in" ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #46
yes CountAllVotes Jan 2019 #5
That is a true nit you have picked. Got anything else? Hekate Jan 2019 #8
It just jumped out at me when I read the headline oberliner Jan 2019 #9
Yeah, I wondered if it was a term specific to the TSA or something! LisaM Jan 2019 #17
Oddly, it is used throughout the article oberliner Jan 2019 #19
Probably got the article from a freelancer. LisaM Jan 2019 #21
Rene Marsh seems to favor the "calling out sick" phrasing oberliner Jan 2019 #23
It is different. I read it a few times before it clicked. I am not familiar with that riversedge Jan 2019 #31
In NYC they do often say "call out sick" violetpastille Jan 2019 #32
strange to me. I am a midwesterner. Lived in the west for a while and NM but riversedge Jan 2019 #33
And in NYC they stand "on" line, not in line like the rest of us. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2019 #38
Interestingly, the NY Times uses "calling in sick" in their tweet on this topic oberliner Jan 2019 #40
trying to derail the thread? CreekDog Jan 2019 #41
No? oberliner Jan 2019 #42
The answer is yes CreekDog Jan 2019 #44
Many news outlets have been getting sloppy for a while IronLionZion Jan 2019 #14
You can say that again! oberliner Jan 2019 #16
I'm thinking now it could be a regional thing oberliner Jan 2019 #24
It may be regional, as you pointed out Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #37
I say Tom-A-to... Juneboarder Jan 2019 #36
Good Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #2
The one agency hated as much as ICE IronLionZion Jan 2019 #7
+1 CountAllVotes Jan 2019 #10
Good points Hekate Jan 2019 #12
If the TSA really wanted to protect us they should stop strip searching and anal probing people cstanleytech Jan 2019 #34
+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #35
TSA is protected from being prosecuted for sexual assault charges IronLionZion Jan 2019 #39
Maybe the idea of nation wide workers strike is forming. nt NCjack Jan 2019 #11
Federal employees can't go on strike. Quemado Jan 2019 #29
A lot of people cannot work PatSeg Jan 2019 #13
How many paychecks have they missed? Igel Jan 2019 #20
I'm wondering durablend Jan 2019 #15
yeah but that's not gonna happen FromMissouri Jan 2019 #27
So let me get this straight. ON the border, where we don't need extra security.. LisaM Jan 2019 #18
Why would they do such a thing. Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #22
This cannot be angrychair Jan 2019 #25
Can't blame them myself. How can any KPN Jan 2019 #26
Don't often say told you so, but told you so. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #30
The way that trump is treating the public servants is horrible Gothmog Jan 2019 #43
What if Border Patrol agents did this, too? Liberty Belle Jan 2019 #45

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
28. We say' called out' more often.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:19 PM
Jan 2019

As in ‘the low paid TSA workers said “fuck it”, so they all called out throwing a real wrench in Trumps plan to let this go on forever.’

You get the idea.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
46. We always said "called in" ...
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:32 AM
Jan 2019

... except when Trump speaks. Then we "call out" his stupid lies.

But, either way, the TSA workers are not working. I don't know if Trump can get some scabs to fill in, especially if he can only pay them with promises.

Good luck, to all who are flying somewhere.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
5. yes
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jan 2019

I spent too much of my life working for the Feds and yes, it is "calling in sick".

I don't blame them one bit!

I wonder if the Federal employee's Union does any good at all? It seemed to me that they had very limited power when I was employed by them a number of years ago.



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. It just jumped out at me when I read the headline
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jan 2019

Seemed oddly not right (and others appear to agree).

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
17. Yeah, I wondered if it was a term specific to the TSA or something!
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jan 2019

CNN should be more careful, stuff like that distracts.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Oddly, it is used throughout the article
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:22 PM
Jan 2019

But their tweet promoting the article says "called in sick" instead.


LisaM

(27,802 posts)
21. Probably got the article from a freelancer.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:37 PM
Jan 2019

The Tweet was probably from an actual CNN employee. Odds are they'll fix it eventually.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. Rene Marsh seems to favor the "calling out sick" phrasing
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jan 2019

She is the one of the two writers listed on the byline and she uses that same phrase in her tweet promoting the article.




Also - some other CNN-affiliated twitter feeds use that phrase as well.

Maybe that is more commonly used than I thought it was.

riversedge

(70,189 posts)
31. It is different. I read it a few times before it clicked. I am not familiar with that
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:24 PM
Jan 2019

phraseology either.

riversedge

(70,189 posts)
33. strange to me. I am a midwesterner. Lived in the west for a while and NM but
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jan 2019

never in the East. But that is fine. I like learning something new.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. Interestingly, the NY Times uses "calling in sick" in their tweet on this topic
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 11:18 PM
Jan 2019



Yet the headline uses "calling out" while the text of the article uses "calling in".
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. No?
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:27 AM
Jan 2019

I just hadn't heard the "calling out sick" variant.

Didn't really have anything else insightful to add to the thread.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
14. Many news outlets have been getting sloppy for a while
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:52 PM
Jan 2019

they don't do much proofreading before posting these pieces, not even on headlines

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
37. It may be regional, as you pointed out
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 08:43 PM
Jan 2019

I haven't heard that phrase anywhere except in the military and in certainly medical circles. "So and so" has "called out sick"

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
7. The one agency hated as much as ICE
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:29 PM
Jan 2019

Dems should use this opportunity to reform both agencies to avoid racial profiling, sexual assault, and blatant intimidation tactics and abuses of power. Some people get a little bit of power and they abuse people with impunity.

TSA has never caught even one terrorist. But they have let lots of weapons through and failed tests of their screening policies because they are the most useless agency. We need to debunk the myth that the TSA does anything for security. They exist to make white people feel safe watching brown people randomly selected for enhanced stop and frisk.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
34. If the TSA really wanted to protect us they should stop strip searching and anal probing people
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jan 2019

with turbans and start looking at the ones wearing MAGA hats and other gear not to mention Repugnant Senators and House members.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
35. +1
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jan 2019

And thank you.

I'm not brown. But I am a white cis-woman with no after-market upgrades.

I have more than one time had to go through the "We Have a GROIN and CHEST ANOMALY!" Show.

Never had to go through anything like this woman though:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/a-panty-liner-triggers-a-tsa-pat-down-just-one-step-removed-from-a-pap-smear/2017/03/30/ec86c10c-154d-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html?utm_term=.d9df85a1baa1



IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
39. TSA is protected from being prosecuted for sexual assault charges
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jan 2019

it's disgusting. Attractive women are the other group their officers like to "randomly select" for enhanced screening for reasons that have nothing to do with security.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
29. Federal employees can't go on strike.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:21 PM
Jan 2019

The Federal Service Labor-Management Relations Statute...does not grant this right (the right to strike) to federal employees. In fact, the Statute specifically excludes from the definition of "employee" those persons who engage in a workplace strike. It specifies that it is an unfair labor practice for labor unions to call or participate in a strike or a work stoppage that interferes with the operation of a federal agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Service_Labor-Management_Relations_Statute

That being said, there are other things they can do, like calling in sick, a la "blue flu".

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
13. A lot of people cannot work
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jan 2019

indefinitely without a paycheck. You'd probably have a hard time finding an unpaid federal worker who thinks the border wall is worth it, but apparently that's what "they" are telling Trump. Does he honestly think anyone believes that?

Igel

(35,300 posts)
20. How many paychecks have they missed?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jan 2019

News reports said last week's paycheck was issued. The next one is next week's, and the problem is that the hours for the prep work and funds for that one aren't there.

What's left is that they're calling in sick because they're told they won't get paid next week for what they're doing this week.

Let them call in sick. They're their sick days. They won't have them later if they do get sick and should have their pay docked. Of course, it punishes their supervisors for something the supervisors have no control over, but since when do we punish the guilty when we can punish those present?

As for public workers trying to lobby the public for the workers' good, that's true of any strike. But when it's government employees ...

durablend

(7,460 posts)
15. I'm wondering
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jan 2019

If he's just *itching* for a terrorist attack ("C'mon in boys!" ) figuring he'll blame the Democrats for it if it does happen.

 

FromMissouri

(95 posts)
27. yeah but that's not gonna happen
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jan 2019

Takes lots of advance planning and getting various agencies on board, and issuing documents to explain it ahead of time and all. No, Trump can't pull it off. He probably hasn't even read Project for a New American Century docs. Cause, you know, he doesn't read.

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
18. So let me get this straight. ON the border, where we don't need extra security..
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:09 PM
Jan 2019

somehow we have to build this stupid wall.

But it's okay to make air travel less secure, even though known terrorists have already breached security in the past and the TSA was put in place to prevent that.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
22. Why would they do such a thing.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 06:45 PM
Jan 2019

I mean who else do we know that would use a phony health problem to keep from, oh that's right. Never mind.

angrychair

(8,695 posts)
25. This cannot be
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:07 PM
Jan 2019

Trump has all the best support from all federal workers. I mean he had all those skinheads up there talking about how great trump was and how important the wall is....just can’t be...

KPN

(15,642 posts)
26. Can't blame them myself. How can any
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:16 PM
Jan 2019

employer require people to work without pay? Is there a legal basis that has been challenged before that allows the federal government to do this?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
30. Don't often say told you so, but told you so.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 07:23 PM
Jan 2019

I made a few posts to this effect last week.

I know people were TSA screeners. They don’t make much and the rules are real tight. And they all have the highest level background checks making the highly employabile.

It won’t take long for them to start quitting in droves.

This will catch the Senates attention.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
45. What if Border Patrol agents did this, too?
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 02:11 AM
Jan 2019

Maybe the Trumpsters would get scared enough to want the shutdown to stop.

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