Trump says emergency declaration coming without border deal with Dems
Source: The Hill
Trump says emergency declaration coming without border deal with Dems
BY JORDAN FABIAN - 01/09/19 12:45 PM EST
President Trump on Wednesday said he may declare a national emergency to circumvent Congress and build a border wall if spending talks fail, raising the stakes for negotiations set to resume later in the day.
I think we might work a deal, and if we dont we might go that route, Trump told reporters during a bill signing in the Oval Office.
The president said he has the absolute right to declare an emergency, even though some legal scholars and Democratic lawmakers say he does not.
Trump added that his threshold for declaring a national emergency is if he cannot reach a deal with congressional Democrats, who have rejected his demand for $5.7 billion for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/424551-trump-says-emergency-declaration-coming-without-border-deal-with-dems
I have a self-imposed prohibition on posting threads in LBN that start with "Trump says." I let this article go without posting, until I read this:
Treating the 1787 Constitutions system of checks and balances as a national emergency in 2019 is a pretty good definition of chutzpah.
Link to tweet
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)This is pathetic.
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)But cooler heads prevailed. He was so obviously pouting through that speech.
Mme. Defarge
(8,027 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)I thought he was on that Adderall again.
ScratchCat
(1,988 posts)Seriously, there isn't a single legal person who says The POTUS has this power. The House would hold hearings and call the FBI, CIA, NSA and DHS who will all say there is no crisis or emergency. The House wont appropriate money anyway.
I get it, its his way "out", so he can blame "the liberal courts who hate America". It just changes the news cycle and we all know that's why he is doing this.
Botany
(70,499 posts)n/t
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Somebody convinced him to reluctantly give that speech instead of the national emergency one. It was clear that he hated it. His affect was wooden, he spoke in a monotone, and he looked miserable. He'll seize the first chance he can to do what he wants, which is to declare a national emergency.
Trump thrives on chaos, and he needs to hold his ignorant base. He wanted this shutdown, and he wants the emergency. He could give a shit less about border security, or even the wall/fence/barrier/beaded curtain.
Besides, he talked about holding the hands of weeping mothers. Really? Trump didn't come up with that; he has no capacity to even think of that.
still_one
(92,155 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Never mind, that money was for his pockets.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)He is trying shield this by invoking a fake national emergency to defy congress. A clearly impeachable offense. Pelosi should start talking that way....FYI, there no limits on how many times a person can be impeached,
The democrats could easily file impeachment charges and the senate would have to do a trial...
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)like funding for new troop housing, and other projects.
They will get cranky.
still_one
(92,155 posts)a national emergency
Disgusting and not a smart move.
However, a Trump thing.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)shortly after he declares a fake national emergency, sidesteps Congress and wipes his fat ass with the Constitution!
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,412 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)We cannot allow this lawless POS GOP tin horn dictator to shit all over our laws and Constitution with impunity!
Let the traitor GOP Senate let him off the hook and destroy their evil party forever!
Trump has killed children at his kiddie concentration camps and now has promised to cut off FEMA and watch California burn!
He's getting ready to tell Congress to fuck off and rule by fiat!
Still we musn't impeach him hmm?
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)And it wont be pretty for Trumpy. A lot of GOPers are getting fed up with this madman and are looking for a good excuse to throw him under the bus.
EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)Surrounded by equipment; soldiers; agents and one token family?
Maxheader
(4,372 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)My uncle was in the Sea Bees during WW II.
EX500rider
(10,839 posts)form the Naval Construction Force (NCF) of the United States Navy.
Role Militarized construction
Size
7,000 active personnel
6,927 Reserve personnel
13,815 total
Nickname(s) Seabees
Motto(s)
Latin: Construimus, Batuimus
"We build. We fight"
"CAN DO"
"The difficult we do now, the impossible takes a little longer"
akraven
(1,975 posts)they are NOT easy nuts to crack, sTrump!
sinkingfeeling
(51,446 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)Hopefully I'm wrong, but I can see his derangement increasing daily and this is the next step for this sociopath.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)And bypass congress to install a Medicare for all or a single payer plan. And use military money to pay for it. I can't wait.
dweller
(23,628 posts)STFU ?
😑
ITMFA !
✌🏼️
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)...but be ready to suffer the consequences, big boy.
Ford_Prefect
(7,892 posts)LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)Come on Mr. "I make the best deals, no one knows more than me, I can tell you", if you were not able to even convince a House and Senate that were controlled by your party for two years, what has changed to make it an emergency? Is it that Mueller is getting close? Is it Putin telling you to buy Russian steel or the Pee Tape comes out? What?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,922 posts)How is it an emergency when illegal borders crossings are fewer and fewer? Last year there was one fifth of the number there were in 2000.
Maeve
(42,281 posts)And by saying he's doing it because he can't cut a deal, he under-cuts his own case
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Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)You all know that though.
dansolo
(5,376 posts)This is a bluff. His entire justification for the shutdown is for the wall.