Minority Voters To Be Intimidated By Polling Place Vigilantes, Report Warns
Source: Huffington Post
WASHINGTON -- Concerned that a veritable army of Tea Partyers will descend on polling places in minority neighborhoods to challenge and intimidate voters on Election Day, two public interest groups on Monday called for government officials to take extra steps to protect voters' rights.
A new report from Common Cause and Demos, titled "Bullies at the Ballot Box," describes efforts by right-wing groups -- foremost among them, a Tea Party spin-off group called True the Vote -- to train as many as a million volunteers in "poll-watching."
"I think we have seen a much more coordinated and well-funded effort than we've seen in years past, and that's why it's so concerning," said Jenny Flanagan, director of voting and elections at Common Cause and one of the report's authors.
"The message behind their tactic I think is what's most concerning to us," she said, because the groups appear to be "targeting racial minorities and others who have a past of being targeted."
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/10/minority-voters_n_1871138.html
brooklynite
(94,352 posts)...trained to walk in with any voter who needs protection, and prepared to stop anyone not legally allowed to interfere with the voting process.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I know that in NY the poll workers can THROW THEM OUT!
And if they don't go when they are asked to leave, the police can get involved, and they can get arrested for manipulating an election, disturbing the peace, and other little things.
Mr.Bill
(24,239 posts)And you are absolutely right. People are allowed to observe only. They are not allowed to interfere with the voters, poll workers or the voting process in any way.
oldsarge54
(582 posts)We had self identified Tea Party types with cameras threatening to give the latino voters pictures to the INS. Minor mistake, our rural area has many descendants of the Texians who helped create Texas, including descendants of Juan Sequin. They were set straight in a hurry. Fun to watch.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,959 posts)(on edit: )
... even if the police illegally confiscate the videos and photos.
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)cheezmaka
(737 posts)where they will not like the result as well...
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)They say anywhere from 500k-1mil PA voters could lose access to voting on election day because of this new Voter ID law. The margin of win for Obama in 2008 was almost 10% but that was 700k voters which means if a judge doesn't overturn the PA Voter ID law - GOP could steal the election here.
central scrutinizer
(11,637 posts)that shit might have worked in the 1950s. Maybe they still think the "coloreds" know their place.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)they're not going to send the goon squad to harass ten black folks...
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)They like nothing more than outnumbering their targets. If they're outnumbered they may not stick around long.
If anything they'll be more aggressive at the ones where they have vastly superior numbers.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The people in that picture are just now into their seventies. I'm sure many are still voting. I'm sure most of them brought their own children up to have their same values.
"Prey on the weak" is the motto of these social darwinist fuckheads.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)fit for the rethug party of today. THIS is what they would like to do on election day. Intimidate. I hope they try this here.
Judi Lynn
(160,450 posts)Glad to see this photo for the first time. Perfect illustration of what these people can easily do when the mood strikes them.
They could have accepted the knowledge it was time to let go of the evil of the past, but they chose to try to keep making life a living hell for others.
There are three real heroes at the counter. They tower over the others while sitting there.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)1. There has never been an issue at my precinct in all the years I've voted
2. I've always sent off a pretty strong 'do-not-fuck-with-me' vibe, even when I'm not trying to...
Jazzgirl
(3,744 posts)I send off double-dare you signals. I will not take crap from any racist asshole. Besides I do not intimidate.....at all!!!
edited for spelling.
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)Just to look like no trouble would be allowed to happen.
I had a beautiful German Shepherd, born in Germany to breed puppies. I got her when she retired and she was an excellent watch dog by just being there. She was a gentle as anything but anyone who saw her walked clear of us when we walked her.
Looking tough helps.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)zincsulfate
(3 posts)daybranch
(1,309 posts)for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Asian Americans is arm in arm with Euro American supporters. Voting is the American way. Let's start a campaign to get people to the polls to look at the soon to be extinct tea party., the dodo bird of this century
jaysunb
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heaven05
(18,124 posts)ALL!!
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)you best believe that
cheezmaka
(737 posts)they won't even think about it
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)they will harass people who are outnumbered
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)that betters their chances of winning and seizing total control of the government. Have they no shame, have they no patriotism?
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)cheezmaka
(737 posts)and take 5 other NEW voters with us...
Mr.Bill
(24,239 posts)They are cowards at heart.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)aggiesal
(8,907 posts)to get out and teach the minority groups to vote early or vote by mail.
That way when Nov. 6th rolls around, all the minorities would have
voted and these groups would have nobody to harass or challenge
or intimidate.
Vote Early or Vote By Mail.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Ballots with the address, not of the county election officials, but of AFP. you know any votes for Obama will be thrown away.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)aggiesal
(8,907 posts)No organization is allowed to do that, not even the Democratic or Republican party.
The only organization that do that is the County Registrar of Voters.
You should gather those illegal ballots and report it to your local District Attorney.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)aggiesal
(8,907 posts)A group like Americans for Prosperity or even the Republican Party
send out these fake ballots.
There intent is to never turn them in because they're not real ballots.
This accomplishes 3 things:
[font color=RED]1) [/font]If you vote on these fake ballots, you now think you've voted.
So you never show up to the polls to vote in person because you believe
you've already voted. Which of course you haven't.
[font color=RED]2) [/font] If you don't send the ballot back, the organization that sent it to you
now believes you don't live at the address where they sent it. So, when
you do go to vote at the polls on Nov. 6th, they'll have a poll watcher
there, waiting for you to arrive, and then they challenge your right to
vote.
The Poll workers can't officially verify your legal right while at the polls
so instead of giving you an official ballot, you're given a provisional ballot.
At times, these provisional ballots are not counted, therefore in reality
you never really voted. In 2004, during the Kerry/Bush election, the state
of OHIO never counted 180,000 provisional ballots.
[font color=RED]3) [/font] Your local Registrar of Voters is allowed to send out ballots or postcards
for you to verify your current address. They do this under the guise that
they are cleaning up their voter rolls, which they are legally allowed to do.
Unfortunately, if you don't return the ROV's request because your used to
seeing all these fake requests, the ROV will actually remove you from the
REAL VOTER ROLLS.
Now when you go to vote at your local precinct, your name is nowhere
to be found. Your given a provisional ballot, but because your name has
been officially removed from the voter rolls, the ROV will NEVER count
your provisional ballot.
This is insidious on soooo many levels.
That's why I say to contact your local DA, and try to get these organizations
into court and stop this practice before they disenfranchise more voters.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)Wouldn't '04 have counted as close in Ohio or was that another one of the many ways they used to disenfranchise voters?
Thanks for all this information. I will let you all know what I find out from the NC Board of Elections.
aggiesal
(8,907 posts)But they didn't because Kerry was supposedly down by 160,000
and he would have had to get 89% of the provisional ballots to
just break even.
This before they determined that votes stolen would have made
it a much closer race.
Read the book Witness To a Crime: A Citizen's Audit of an American Election
By Richard Hayes Phillips.
Notice along the left hand side of the ballot displayed, how votes were
stolen. Literally by placing a sticker over a Kerry/Edwards vote and then
marking the Shrub/Cheater bubble.
http://electiondefensealliance.org/witness_crime_citizens_audit_american_election
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)If they get word of voters of color being harrassed at the polls.
mopinko
(70,015 posts)at least, i am pretty sure farrakhan tells people that it is a worthless placebo.
DemKittyNC
(743 posts)I never thought about this before. This will be the first time I can vote in my life I hope I don't get harassed outside my voting place. I don't know what I would do. They wouldn't stop me from voting that is for sure. I guess I would just run in really fast, vote then run back out. lol Of course I am white so they will probably just think I am voting republican and leave me alone. I hope everyone is safe and nothing bad happens to anyone in November
alfredo
(60,071 posts)On your behalf.
Our polling station is on private property, so we have an extra layer of protection.
cheezmaka
(737 posts)just take a BIG BROTHER with you or a GROUP of your friends.. These Republicans are on a sinking ship and have no choice but to try to "cheat"...
defacto7
(13,485 posts)after voting. I will. If I see anything unusual, I will report it to officials and police. If reporting it doesn't help, I will take pictures, any evidence and post it wherever necessary.
It's another way to be involved in the process... on foot. If there are people with the energy to prohibit voting by harassment, we need to have the energy to do something about it.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Is work with local Dems in their GOTV efforts. They may need drivers for those who can't make it to the polls on their own.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)an election judge. We have two Reps, and two Dems. It works out well.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)I live near a heavily African-American neighborhood, so there shoud be (I hope) a good turnout at my polling place for Obama. Most of them don't seem to be the type to be easily intimidated. If those True the Vote idiots do show up here, I think I'll pull open my jacket and flash 'em my Obama T-shirt as I leave.
DemKittyNC
(743 posts)I live smack dab in the middle of old racist white country republican land. There is like only 3 black kids in my school total and my high school is known for turning out the best tobacco farmers ever! It's like that is all the kids I go to school with ever hope to be in life. I hate it here, when I can I am totally moving the hell out of this state or at least this area I live in. lol
Bluegene
(35 posts)Come to the left coast. We will treat you right.
cowards won't show up where they would have to show some testicular material. No they would pick easy, I think mixed neighborhoods where they figure they can act with impunity? I don't know, but I bet they won't show up there. No way. They're basically cowards and like to have the numerical advantage. I learned against those sheet wearers in the south. Fight back, like my grandfather, a WWI and Spanish-American War vet(yes Rough Riders and Kettle Hill which was much rougher than San Juan Hill) and family did, they will leave and fast. Never bothered him again. Uppity Negro with 125 acres that he bought and developed into a fine chicken and fresh fruit farm. How do I know, day summer vacation started, no matter where I was, father in the army. I worked there all summer, many summers. I will still fight Period.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)onehandle
The S.A in old Germany did that to - intimated everyone at the polling places - of course it was illegal, even by the standards of the Wiemar Republic, who caved into rubles in 1932-33..
And I think it is fair to give the Tea Party groups, who Will decent on polling places, to be at the same league as the old S.A of NSDAP.. They act absolutely in the same manner - intimate, scaring and bully people to be home rather than go out vote...
Diclotican
Cha
(296,848 posts)asshole teabagger came into my neighborhood and tried the intimidation thing.
They need to get themselves to their voting booths and leave everyone else the hell alone.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,959 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Not necessarily a good idea to piss people off while not on home turf.
CitizenPatriot
(3,783 posts)saw this first hand in 2008 with your garden variety racists and police (even though that is against the law) patrolling in black districts and staring at minorities intimidatingly.
When I was voting in 2010, an old white guy ahead of me got really concerned about dead people voting and starting yelling to check all of the black people's ID in line. They almost threw him out, the poll worker rolled his eyes at me. I was pretty ticked off -- no American should be hassled like that.
Video the vote is a good organization to help protect the vote, too.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)Really?
That should be interesting. I would love to see that.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)That's dangerously psychotic. It's not like tea partiers awed people with the overwhelming attendance at their rallies, at least not counting the clackers from Fox News, and that was all astroturfing.
frylock
(34,825 posts)bring your vidcams or cell phones to your polling station and don't be shy about getting them on camera. if they attempt to take or wreck your camera, kindly remind them that would be assault and that you will press charges.
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)ejbr
(5,856 posts)America owns the polling places, not Faux Noise Tea Party cowards. And, I'm known to be a dead shot locally; and I'm militantly anti-reThuglikkklan. Plus, having a BLA magna cum laude with being a veteran and a shooting instructor tends to confuse the living peewaddlin' out of them.
I don't fit the 'liberal weenie' stereotype for 'em; in fact, I let them know I'm a leftist and not a liberal; a liberal will allow for their opinion: I WILL NOT. Loudly.
gordianot
(15,233 posts)I would think this behavior would be very risky.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)Can't win honestly, they'll do what they can to steal it.
thelarge
(23 posts)I wasn't intimidated in Selma! I wasn't intimidated in B'ham! Nor Evergreen, MS! I won't be intimidated in TX!!! On election day, I will don the bib coveralls, my old SNCC button, my "Remember Sammie Young" armband, and my blue bandanna (with TWO knots!), and "Keep on marching up to freedom land"!
matt819
(10,749 posts)The US has participated in these sorts of groups during elections in the third world. Sadly, I think such program needs to be put into place here, conspiracy theories and black helicopters be damned.
get Jimmy Carter on it, he done the election observation thing.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)I was so disappointed.
they should make an exception this time. It's really ugly out there. But I hear you. any reason as to why we don't rate?
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)I forgot about that bias thing. you are right. thanks
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)i will forward this report to some union folks i know.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Maybe foreign journalists will do what US journalists no longer do.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)That's the reason the Rs are so keen to get all the Governorships.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Webster Green
(13,905 posts)Observers are allowed, but they cannot engage with voters or take photos.
If any of these idiots show up at the polling place that I'm in charge of, and don't play by the rules, I'll just call the sheriff to get rid of them.
Gothmog
(144,920 posts)In 2010, True the Vote was very active in Harris County and made life difficult for the Harris County party. Luckily for Harris County, the county chair Gerry Birnberg is a very good election law lawyer and got some DOJ support.
Fort Bend County is next to Harris County and we are expecting these idiots to be out in force. I am doing a couple of training sessions for poll watchers. The first will be in conjunction with the State Party on October 6 in Harris County. We are going to do our best to be ready for these idiots
meow2u3
(24,759 posts)This is a case of a conspiracy against rights, plain and simple. The entire "True the Vote" gang ought to be rounded up and locked up because they're liable to kill someone trying to exercise their rights.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Holder's not interested.
simmonsj811
(345 posts)We are ready for those assholes in MIami, Fla for sure can wait to see'ya
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)just1voice
(1,362 posts)I've contacted the state in the past, they just send a courtesy reply and do nothing.
tjdee
(18,048 posts)I live in a very Republican area and I'm a black woman. They see me coming from miles away and there are always people hanging outside my polling place. They have always been civil/nice enough but I am always uncomfortable anyway. Voting by mail for sure this time.
We live in a blue state so prevailing opinion among people here is that I don't have to vote at all, but I want to.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)how many of those "poll watchers" are concealed carry holders? How ugly can things get? Things can get VERY ugly in a hurry if some racist hot head with a gun decides it's his duty to "protect the purity of his country".
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Can you imagine some doughy teabagger venturing into the Badlands of North Philly or Oakland or Detroit or Cleveland and trying this shit? They'd get eaten. It's not like some stranger can just go walking into a minority neighborhood and cow the people like the master of a plantation. Hell no, they'd end up dead or worse.
Someone had better think twice.