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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:40 AM Jan 2019

Kamala Harris jumps into presidential race

Source: Washington Post

Sen. Kamala (KAH’mah-lah) Harris is running for president.

The California Democrat tells ABC’s “Good Morning America” that she’s entering the increasingly crowded field of candidates seeking the Democratic nomination. If successful, she’d be the country’s second African-American president and the first woman to hold the office.

Harris is a daughter of immigrant parents who grew up in Oakland, California. She’s portraying herself in a campaign video as a fighter for justice, decency and equality — values she says are “all on the line.”

Harris is a first-term senator and former California attorney general known for her rigorous questioning of President Donald Trump’s nominees. She’s 54.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kamala-harris-jumps-into-presidential-race/2019/01/21/293d55b8-1d79-11e9-a759-2b8541bbbe20_story.html

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Kamala Harris jumps into presidential race (Original Post) oberliner Jan 2019 OP
Beat me by a second. BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #1
I am so glad she made it official oberliner Jan 2019 #2
IMHO, it's time for DU to reactivate the GD:Primary forum BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #4
Agreed oberliner Jan 2019 #6
Would rather have it contained there BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #9
Good point oberliner Jan 2019 #10
Oh it will because BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #11
Do you think Bernie will run again? oberliner Jan 2019 #14
Whether he actually declares or not BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #15
Creative speculation: TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #38
I wouldn't be surprised by that BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #40
... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #41
Or, Bernie becomes the "King/Queen-maker"... that's a more likely scenario. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #51
And even if he doesn't run Dopers_Greed Jan 2019 #22
It will be hard to deny the cult-like nature of the continuing Bernie support Chemisse Jan 2019 #24
I don't report on posts, but if I did, I would be on the verge of reporting yours LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #44
But your are making my exact point (and by the way, I supported him in the last primary also)! Chemisse Jan 2019 #48
Sorry if I misinterpreted your response LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #49
And Washington state's governor Inslee made his "case" today on Morning Joe. CTyankee Jan 2019 #29
Plus you have the much-watched Sherrod Brown BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #32
I love Sherrod Brown, but his time may be past for the Presidential run... CTyankee Jan 2019 #33
I agree BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #36
GOOD! It can't come too soon for me! CTyankee Jan 2019 #39
Concur 100%... SKKY Jan 2019 #12
Good suggestion True Dough Jan 2019 #28
I posted a request for the group in ATA. BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #31
Another great choice Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #3
Amen oberliner Jan 2019 #5
i like her alot (but i do hold a small grudge she chimed in on calling for Al Franken's resignation) onetexan Jan 2019 #7
Biden-Harris could be a strong ticket! oberliner Jan 2019 #8
1000% AGREE!!! onetexan Jan 2019 #13
I'm a fan. Gave her some money this morning OKNancy Jan 2019 #16
As of now she's my default Recursion Jan 2019 #17
I think she would be a very strong candidate oberliner Jan 2019 #18
But, but Kamala Harris is... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2019 #19
She's better than the others, so far, I guess. But waiting for a Governor... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #20
Do you have a particular governor in mind? oberliner Jan 2019 #21
I think Jerry Brown would have that experience Bayard Jan 2019 #34
I don't think many Dems would go for two white men. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #46
Hill experience is something that Governors often don't have.(nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #37
This is very good news! FakeNoose Jan 2019 #23
I'm not saying she's perfect but I, too, think she's the best out of a great group of possible CTyankee Jan 2019 #25
I'm so glad she's in the race! Chemisse Jan 2019 #26
Hooray TEB Jan 2019 #27
Somehow I don't think that many who voted for Trump in the Midwest and in the South question everything Jan 2019 #30
However she might awaken a whole group "in the Midwest and in the South" BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #35
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2019 #42
Wouldn't that be nice to have the first woman Pres an African American? it makes me very excited. YOHABLO Jan 2019 #43
She's the ONE! djacq Jan 2019 #45
And so it begins. Here's a different op. of her prosecuting days: Kamala Harris Was Not a 'Progressi Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #47
Definitely a concern there... will be interesting to hear how Kamala addresses it. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #52
Love her. sellitman Jan 2019 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author NewsCenter28 Jan 2019 #53
Why are white leftbros like Michael Tracy questioning how "black" she is? Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #54
What is that all about? oberliner Jan 2019 #55
Naturally Tracey is part of Greenwald's buddy circle: Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #56

BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
4. IMHO, it's time for DU to reactivate the GD:Primary forum
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:51 AM
Jan 2019

There are now at least 3 (major) declared candidates with more to come.

BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
9. Would rather have it contained there
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:02 AM
Jan 2019

than in the midst of GD given all the other "current" stuff that we are dealing with!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Good point
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:05 AM
Jan 2019

It will be interesting to see if things get as rough and tumble as they did last time around.

BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
11. Oh it will because
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:21 AM
Jan 2019

you still have the Sanders & Warren & Biden camps (and even a Clinton camp), so it will be like this -



BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
15. Whether he actually declares or not
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 09:38 AM
Jan 2019

there will still be plenty of people insisting that he will ("any day now" ) regardless!

TexasTowelie

(111,282 posts)
38. Creative speculation:
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 01:26 PM
Jan 2019

If Bernie doesn't run and the delegates are divided such that nobody has a majority, then Bernie will be suggested as the compromise candidate at the convention.

BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
40. I wouldn't be surprised by that
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 02:19 PM
Jan 2019

either or even a suggestion of AOC or Cory Booker for that matter (another whose name has been floated).

One can look at the Speaker of the House votes (and alternates who were voted for) to get an idea of other potentials.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
22. And even if he doesn't run
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 11:49 AM
Jan 2019

Some will insist that he didn't because the all-powerful malevolent DNC rigs the primaries

Chemisse

(30,793 posts)
24. It will be hard to deny the cult-like nature of the continuing Bernie support
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jan 2019

once we have several strong progressives in the race to carry the torch.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,153 posts)
44. I don't report on posts, but if I did, I would be on the verge of reporting yours
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 03:51 PM
Jan 2019

To smear such a large percent of Democrats who support Bernie's more progressive platform. At one time 48% of Democrats during the last primaries, is just awful IMO.

To use the word "cult". Really? Do you really believe that or is it just for a good snicker?

Do we have to speak slower? Here it is....Bernie supporters, in the last primary, supported his POLICIES. We were thrilled that there was a choice to choose someone who hasn't wavered in his views for decades, as some others have "evolved". We agreed with his positions not his personality.

Do you honestly think a disheveled cranky old man fits the bill for being a cult leader? Does his shouty repetitive sloganeering speeches equate him with a brilliant orator that no matter what he says can enthrall audiences? (Obama and even Trump are even better at that)

So....to answer your insinuation....if a younger more dynamic candidate with much the same progressive principles stepped forward, I'd be stoked. Perhaps Kamala Harris. I'd rather Bernie not HAVE to run. I'd rather he has someone he can put his support behind that is younger, and also not beholden to big business donors. And I think most previous Sanders supporters would agree with that.

The cult-like persistence in support is for these more bolder progressive initiatives and the belief that it can be accomplished in our lifetime. Not following preconceived narratives like saying single payer "its not going to happen" because big Pharma and Insurers tell you that, but pushing the conversation forward in the belief that leaders, like Sanders, are not afraid of the chicken little's laughing at them about rainbows and unicorns, and know that someimes a leader has to be ahead of the crowd. Like those that fought for equal marriage rights, or pot legalization, before the majority caught on.

Sanders has contributed to moving the conversation forward. He even pushed Hillary to include a more progressive agenda into her platform. He is relentless in speaking out for truth against power. So much so many are sick of seeing him on TV. Oh right... even that he shows himself in public too much is a point of contention to the grumblers. Tell that to MLK, or Ghandi, or even just any number of politicians.....is it a lust for popularity that compels leaders to stand up and speak, or is it......gasp...that they actually believe in what they are saying? That they think its important to get that message out, even if it's themselves that must do it? And when they do, if it rings true, they will have followers that champion that leader. Its not a cult. Its that that leader encompasses the direction that their supporters agree with.

But personally I think Sanders should step down. America had a once in a lifetime opportunity last time to nominate a true progressive that would have beaten Trump if he'd have had the opportunity. Taking into consideration that he had rust belt support, add to that he did not have to deal with the shit fake news smear takedown, and Comey, that Hillary had to.

But that opportunity is probably, sadly, past. We need new younger, more relatable candidates that will carry on fighting for the same issues that Bernie has long fought for.

Chemisse

(30,793 posts)
48. But your are making my exact point (and by the way, I supported him in the last primary also)!
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jan 2019

"Bernie supporters, in the last primary, supported his POLICIES."

So now that we will have "new younger, more relatable candidates that will carry on fighting for the same issues that Bernie has long fought for", those who continue to insist that Bernie is the one and only candidate they can support for 2020, in my opinion, reveal their support to be of a cultlike nature, as I stated.

I don't see that much on DU any longer but I have several friends on Facebook who don't seem to be able to entertain the idea of new progressive candidates.

I probably stated it clumsily.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,153 posts)
49. Sorry if I misinterpreted your response
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jan 2019

But I think anyone, unlike you or I, that worships the man, Bernie Sanders, because of some kind of cult of personality, this cantankerous old man(!), even as far as rejecting any new more left rising stars that are emerging in the Democratic party, then I'd say they are in a very small minority. An inconsequential minority. Especially if Sanders doesn't run but endorses one of those more progressive new voices, and they still insist on Bernie or nothing. I just don't see it.

And perpetrating that myth is only feeding the Sanders/progressive bashers who are, even if inadvertently, dividing our party.

cheers

CTyankee

(63,768 posts)
29. And Washington state's governor Inslee made his "case" today on Morning Joe.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jan 2019

So this is the season for announcements by those seeking to run on the Dem ticket.

Kind of cool to watch. Nice to see the adults with fine reputations and strong records of achievement in public office talk to the American people calmly and sanely. It really helps at a time when we are SO SICK of trump...

BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
32. Plus you have the much-watched Sherrod Brown
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jan 2019

who has thrown out a few hints here and there over the past year and is expected to make a decision soon.

I made a request in ATA for them to reopen that forum. I expect moving forward, there may be requests for Kristen Gilibrand, Kamala Harris and Julian Castro groups as well.

CTyankee

(63,768 posts)
33. I love Sherrod Brown, but his time may be past for the Presidential run...
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jan 2019

we need a WOMAN! It's time (way past time in fact). No excuses!

BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
36. I agree
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 01:15 PM
Jan 2019

but just included him as someone who had apparently expressed interest.

As a sidenote, EarlG just got back to me and they will be implementing the forum and will announce when they are ready!

onetexan

(12,994 posts)
7. i like her alot (but i do hold a small grudge she chimed in on calling for Al Franken's resignation)
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 08:54 AM
Jan 2019

i'd prefer Joe Biden. But if she wins the nomination i'd have no problem supporting her. I'd much prefer her over Kirsten Gillibrand, who IMO is an opportunist.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. She's better than the others, so far, I guess. But waiting for a Governor...
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 11:00 AM
Jan 2019

someone with executive experience.

Bayard

(21,801 posts)
34. I think Jerry Brown would have that experience
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jan 2019

And paired with someone from the midwest, maybe Sherrod Brown, would be a great ticket.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
46. I don't think many Dems would go for two white men.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:28 PM
Jan 2019

I don't think that should be a requirement, but I understand why some feel that way.

I'm not seeing anyone I'm excited about yet, or who I think would do a great job or be the right person. They're all either toast before they start, or mediocre.

Maybe some will seem better, when debates start. I don't favor senators for Presidential candidates, unless they were on track for being President before, and did just a short stint in the Senate. JFK, Obama.

Long term Senators have too much to attack. When you're in Congress, you have to vote for bills in their entirety, sometimes leading to voting for something good that has objectionable parts, or against something bad even though it has a good part. Ads can make those votes seem like something else.

FakeNoose

(32,328 posts)
23. This is very good news!
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:17 PM
Jan 2019

I have no "favorite" yet but I plan to follow Kamala's campaign with interest. First I plan to read her book, as soon as I finish "Dark Money" by Jane Mayer.

Good luck Kamala Harris, and don't let the ups & downs of campaigning discourage you!

CTyankee

(63,768 posts)
25. I'm not saying she's perfect but I, too, think she's the best out of a great group of possible
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jan 2019

candidates. I love Warren's passion and energy and she inspires me.

Don't we have a great group of Dems willing and ready to go at DJT? He is so screwed...

Chemisse

(30,793 posts)
26. I'm so glad she's in the race!
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jan 2019

I am delighted to have her among those who I will be considering once all the info is in.

question everything

(47,263 posts)
30. Somehow I don't think that many who voted for Trump in the Midwest and in the South
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jan 2019

will accept someone from California. And, yes, we need them.

Will wait and see how things progress.

BumRushDaShow

(127,267 posts)
35. However she might awaken a whole group "in the Midwest and in the South"
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jan 2019

who DIDN'T vote for Drumpf but did come out in 2008, were there slightly less in 2012, and sortof dropped off quite a bit in the 2016 election because "Obama was not on the ballot".

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
43. Wouldn't that be nice to have the first woman Pres an African American? it makes me very excited.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 03:28 PM
Jan 2019

Kamala is as sharp as knife and I would support her in a NY second. But let's just wait and see where the line up goes. 2020 is going to be a great year ... but we've got much work to do before we can celebrate.

djacq

(1,633 posts)
45. She's the ONE!
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:03 PM
Jan 2019

Halfway through her book, "The Truths We Hold: An American Journey".

As a DA and AG, Senator Harris called herself a Progressive Prosecutor.

She's ready to be a Progressive President.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. And so it begins. Here's a different op. of her prosecuting days: Kamala Harris Was Not a 'Progressi
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jan 2019
Kamala Harris Was Not a ‘Progressive Prosecutor’

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html

It's a pretty damaging article, if true. One of the concerning things is that...she pins her opinions and stances on what the public opinion is at that time. She's hesitant to verbalize a change of opinion or stance before, and unless, everyone else does first. That's not what a leader usually does.

I don't know much about her, so my mind is open. Although I don't take to her, right off the bat, like I have w/other politicians.

sellitman

(11,596 posts)
50. Love her.
Mon Jan 21, 2019, 07:11 PM
Jan 2019

I'll reserve my judgment until I see who else is running and all their differences.

I'm leaning her way but it's too early IMHO.

Response to oberliner (Original post)

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
56. Naturally Tracey is part of Greenwald's buddy circle:
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 11:57 AM
Jan 2019



Before anyone gets confused, *NO*, this is NOT a legit, innocent, "just wondering" question. This is agitprop trolling of the highest order. And he isn't the only emoprog hot take merchant peddling this bullshit, either.

I guess smearing Harris as a "cop" wasn't getting any traction so it's time to play the race/birth certificate card?
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