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brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:55 PM Jan 2019

Senators urge WMATA to guard against spying in new subway cars

Source: Metro Magazine

The Washington Post reports that U.S. senators representing the region want the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) to take stronger steps to guard against the risk that buying subway cars from China would allow Beijing to use the vehicles to conduct electronic spying on the nation’s capital.

In a letter to WMATA GM Paul J. Wiedefeld, the lawmakers say the transit agency should get approval from the Defense Department, Department of Homeland Security, and Transportation Department before awarding the contract for its next-generation railcars to a foreign adversary.

The letter also added pressure on WMATA to take more extensive precautions than it has done so far in light of the possibility that the state-owned China Railway Rolling Stock Corp. could win the deal to build up to 800 of Metro’s 8000-series railcars. For the full story, click here.

Read more: http://www.metro-magazine.com/government-issues/news/732753/senators-urge-wmata-to-guard-against-spying-in-new-subway-cars



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Senators urge WMATA to guard against spying in new subway cars (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2019 OP
Would seem to make sense to me, good call (nt) mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #1
The Chinese Don't Need to Invest $ Billions on R&D dlk Jan 2019 #2
No to Chinese transportation contracts. I rode in their horribly built buses in Cuba. UGH. ancianita Jan 2019 #3
Here's and idea ... aggiesal Jan 2019 #4
Because you can't... brooklynite Jan 2019 #5
Trump can wave his magic wand and bring those jobs back to America. keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #6
I believe you have missed the point ... aggiesal Jan 2019 #7
Government buying "cheap"... brooklynite Jan 2019 #8

dlk

(11,514 posts)
2. The Chinese Don't Need to Invest $ Billions on R&D
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:58 PM
Jan 2019

They can just sit back, let someone else invest the time and money, and then steal the results. Industrial espionage is their forte.

ancianita

(35,947 posts)
3. No to Chinese transportation contracts. I rode in their horribly built buses in Cuba. UGH.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jan 2019

They're not worth the cost. We can build this stuff ourselves at much better quality, even if it costs more.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
4. Here's and idea ...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jan 2019

DON'T BUY FROM CHINA!!!
Or Russia, or ...

How about (I know this is a radical concept),
BUY AMERICAN

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
5. Because you can't...
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jan 2019

There is no US manufacturer of passenger rail cars. The last US manufacturer (Budd) went out of business in 2014, but hadn't built anything since 1983. The most frequently contracted companies are Bombardier (Canada), Kawasaki (Japan), Alstom (France), Breda (Italy), Siemens (Germany), Kinki Sharyu (Japan) and CAF (Spain)

keithbvadu2

(36,669 posts)
6. Trump can wave his magic wand and bring those jobs back to America.
Tue Jan 22, 2019, 04:55 PM
Jan 2019

Trump can wave his magic wand and bring those jobs back to America.

Just like all the jobs for Trump family products.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
7. I believe you have missed the point ...
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jan 2019

Our government, instead of buying American first, which would keep citizens employed & businesses afloat, has decided to act like corporations and buy cheap, anywhere, as long as it is cheap. Which means emerging industrial societies like China, India, ... , thus harming our manufacturing & industrial base.

Candidate Bernie Sanders, went to the Smithsonian Museum gift shop and found an American Flag with a "Made In China" label on it.
Being a Senator at the time, he decided to do something about it. Introduced legislation that forced government entities like the Smithsonian to "Buy American First".

If all public transportation organizations applied this concept, maybe we would still have a train car manufacturing base.

Unless we (U.S.) change our buying habits, we will no longer have any form of a manufacturing base.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
8. Government buying "cheap"...
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 12:39 PM
Jan 2019

...also means Government limiting spending to reduce the cost to taxpayers.

The MTA cost to deliver transit service is approximately twice what wee actually charge passengers. Adding to the Capital Cost to buy more expensive rolling stock (which isn't available) would require us to increase fare, reduce service or get State and local Governments (both run by Democrats) to cough up more money.

FWIW - There ARE "Buy America" provisions in force. The rail car companies do it by building the component parts and then having a US subsidiary do the assembling in a US plant.

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