Once it gets re-opened, it will be hard(er) for it to be shut down again. Hopefully, this will all be done by a veto-proof majority so that Dump can't just veto it and stop this in its tracks. Also, why the hell couldn't this have been done sooner, Mitch?!

guess.

but I agree

But it may give them a paycheck.

where there was the suggestion to put both bills up for a vote (and we could assume that the reopening could pass both chambers but the wall one wouldn't get out of the House).

The downside with the reopening one per this story, is that it is only a CR for everyone for a couple weeks. If that did hold, it could possibly provide enough time to distribute all the back pay due and any salary checks normally scheduled before any further shutdown.

the wall....nuh-uh!!

and keeping it separate from other funding bills is a plus at this point.

Not that I trust the bastids!

no wall, no way!

I'd assumed even a temporary reopening would allow the backpay to be distributed immediately, even if it was simply for a week or two. But I don't have any real knowledge one way or the other.

During the 2013 shutdown (before I retired) we got the back pay in the next pay check. I think this week would have been a pay week for most (some would have gotten it today - Tuesday - others get it Thursday or Friday). If this was passed and signed somehow today, I don't know if it would make the regular paycheck but might (except for Tuesday pay folks who would probably get it deposited as soon as the systems are programmed for it).

but I will eat dirt and be thankful for it to prevent that orange Russian sob from getting a single penny for that goddamn wall!

Get rid of those two fucking hostage-takers. Impeach them.

These poor federal workers are on the brink right now and the Republicans know that the last time they did hostage taking on the debt ceiling it worked. And the media doesn't help when all they do is falsely equivicate the two parties are equally to blame. This shutdown has to end soon...

...although the irony of the ridiculous debt ceiling battle is that it introduced EQUAL "sequestration" of both domestic AND military spending, which liked to kill them when they found out about that later... Of course Congress has since raised the spending caps over the original 2013 law but the "50%" (equal) limitation remains.

'-TRUMP SHUTDOWN
'-TRUMP SHUTDOWN
'-TRUMP SHUTDOWN
-there IS NO border emergency. It is fake
- there is NO connection whatsoever between $$ for some freakin wall and the TRUMP shut down
-shutting down the government is hostage taking by terrorists/gangsters
- Moscow Mitch is a hostage-taking terrorist who is also being blackmailed

- trump, putin and others stands to enrich themselves by having the wall built

add to the list as you see fit..

THERE IS NO NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS IN IMMIGRATION, PERIOD!!!!

Trump Shutdown was designed to do one thing and one thing only - lower the heat on Trump and his administration for their continued giveaways to Russian interests. Oleg Daripaska should be as well known of a Russian name as Vladimir Putin or Boris Yeltsin at this point, but the shut down defused a lot of critical mass on that story (and the clear 'quid pro quo' from our POTUS to a Russian oligarch) was building to...

Same thing with the denial of the Buzzfeed story last Friday. Another orchestrated side show distraction. A story that is likely 90-95% true as stated and 5-10% not confirmed with official sources but quickly blew up into a massive diversion.

Keep your eyes on the ball people, follow the money and keep making Trump panic. He is too stupid to last under sustained pressure. Our selected leader is a comprised stooge of the Russian Federation and is actively doing business AGAINST the interests of his country and FOR his benefactors in Russia.

I was trying to keep the topics short and sweet.. understandable by those unencumbered by too much functioning brain power.

But for sure-
NO NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS IN IMMIGRATION, PERIOD!!!!

- how about-- shutdown and wall are smoke, a distraction to hide trump's.. whatever.....

They have now added a whole running commentary of confusing narrative that basically glosses over what the (supposed) Democratic bill is (it still seems to be a C.R.) and spends the bulk of the column inches mish-mashing the 1300 page bullshit that Stephen Miller wrote.

I think the one additional paragraph that would sum up what the next steps would probably be is this -

The Democrats will block the wall funding bill from getting to the floor. And the Republicans will block the short term government reopening bill from getting to the floor.

and apparently the bill that Democrats put forward also includes additional disaster aid. Am not sure if this was already in one of the earlier iterations of bills that passed in the House but will need to dig around for details.

Meanwhile I did find an article that indicated that the Senate DID pass funding for the states to extend payments for TANF -

Neither bill is good. The 5.7 billion won't pass the House so the GOP has made the other bill as bad or worse on other grounds AFAIK. So if the House defeats the 5.7 billion version they are left with approving one far worse in overall content. It is the only way McConnell will allow a vote.

The last thing McConnell and the GOP want is a proper examination of Trump's wall as a policy to respond to illegal immigration. The next thing they don't want is anyone examining any of their budget proposals and policy bombs by the normal and correct process of committee deliberation, and floor debate. The other thing they fear is whatever Trump and the Russians are holding over their heads otherwise they would have stampeded McConnell by now.

but I am trying to tease out the details of the other bill and the media has made a complete mess out of what is what. The earlier assumption was that one was just a C.R. where the other is full fiscal year funding.

But I keep seeing a mess of goal-post moving descriptions of what the other bill is.

for a few weeks extension?

One was supposedly the wall one, which would be DOA in the House, and the 2nd was supposedly (at least originally) a C.R. for 2 weeks, which apparently may end up DOA in the Senate if they can't get 60 votes to invoke cloture to proceed with debate and a vote for passage.

. . . I think both bills would sail out of the House.

his approval ratings are in the sewer.

I think that February 8th date had been in the original Senate C.R. from back in December (which was then sent to the House and Eddie Munster killed it on his way out the door)... So upon taking the gavel in January, the House requests were sent for the testimonies - but double-checking, that will happen on February 7 for Cohen (which is a Thursday, which makes sense) and Whitaker will appear on Friday February 8.

I think Whitaker is the next day.