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Coventina

(27,057 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:02 PM Jan 2020

Cruise Passengers Are Held at Italian Port Over Coronavirus Fears

Source: New York Times

CIVITAVECCHIA, Italy — Thousands of passengers aboard an Italian cruise ship were being blocked from disembarking in a port town north of Rome on Thursday over fears that a passenger might have contracted the coronavirus that has sickened more than 7,700 people in mainland China and killed at least 170.

A Chinese national aboard the ship, the Costa Smeralda, came down with a fever and was experiencing respiratory problems The cruise company said in a statement that 5,023 passengers and 1,628 crew were aboard the ship. A statement from the cruise company confirmed that a “sanitary protocol” had been put in place for one female passenger.

The precaution comes amid international fears that the outbreak of the coronavirus — first detected in a seafood and poultry market in Wuhan, China, last month — will become a global epidemic. Although most of the thousands who have contracted it are in mainland China, at least 68 cases have been reported outside the country.

The ship docked in the port town, Civitavecchia, on Thursday around 8 a.m. after arriving from the Spanish port of Palma de Majorca. It was part of the way through a seven-day cruise in the Western Mediterranean, which included stops in Italy, France and Spain. More than 1,143 guests had planned to end their cruise on Thursday at the port but were prevented from disembarking.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/30/world/europe/italy-coronavirus-cruise.html



Cruises have never appealed to me.

On edit: I wonder how many times this sick passenger went ashore along the Med coast? She would have gone to very crowded, public places.
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BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
1. Brilliant! Crowding thousands of possibly infected people in close quarters to prevent an outbreak!
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jan 2020

What are they gonna do when it spreads through the whole ship? Tow it out to sea and set it on fire and let it sink, with all onboard?

How long will they have to hold everyone before they're declared healthy?

This thing is gonna get insane.

EarthFirst

(2,897 posts)
2. In an ide situation; they'd be quarantined for the duration of the incubation period...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jan 2020

However we all know that isn’t going to happen.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
3. BUT, with this one, you're actually contagious for 2 weeks before symptoms show up...
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jan 2020

so who is going to keep coming onboard to bring food and supplies? Are THEY going to be let off the ship?

Once those people have come and gone from the ship, they're already exposed and they will be going on and off of lots of other ships for re-supply, maintenance, etc. wouldn't they? Possibly comtaminating the other ships, crews, and passengers?

We live in interesting times.
And apparently we die wheezing in them also.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
10. You can supply a ship without boarding it.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jan 2020

And even if they did have to board it, which I doubt they do, I’m sure in 2020 we have figured out protective gear enough to prevent transmission.

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
4. I was at that port in October.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jan 2020

It is many miles from Rome and a lot of cruise ships dock there. The cruise ships really go out of their way to make sure there is spreading of germs. Hand sanitizers, wipes and the cruise personnel everyday are wiping down the ship. ( at the least the one i was one) this is starting to sound like mass hysteria.

Coventina

(27,057 posts)
5. According to the Johns Hopkins tracking website, more people have died than have recovered, so far.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:43 PM
Jan 2020

That's a bit troubling.

on edit: number just now: 171 deaths vs. 143 recovered

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
6. They have no idea the number infected and not reported, could be 10s of thousands in China
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jan 2020

Too mild of symptoms to get care, no way to know

Coventina

(27,057 posts)
7. And, on the other hand, there is very diligent reporting that indicates the deaths are under
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jan 2020

reported as well.

I posted a thread to that effect last night. Staffers at crematoria in China are saying hundreds of bodies are coming in without proper identification and documentation.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
8. No way to tell either, unless you believe the Chicom state news on everything, their own people dont
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:02 PM
Jan 2020

Coventina

(27,057 posts)
9. Nor should they. We definitely should not.
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jan 2020

That's why I really appreciate reporters like William Yang for investigating inside Chinese sources.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
11. Not coronavirus: 6,000 cruise ship passengers given OK to disembark after passenger diagnosed with f
Fri Jan 31, 2020, 06:14 AM
Jan 2020
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/01/30/coronavirus-costa-cruise-ship-passengers-held-onboard-amid-tests/4618718002/


Not coronavirus: 6,000 cruise ship passengers given OK to disembark after passenger diagnosed with flu

Jayme Deerwester, USA TODAYPublished 9:22 a.m. ET Jan. 30, 2020 | Updated 7:07 p.m. ET Jan. 30, 2020

The 6,000 passengers and crew aboard the Costa Smeralda cruise ship can breathe a sigh of relief: They can finally disembark after a passenger of Chinese nationality who had been sick, was diagnosed with the flu – not the new coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, China.

The cruise line confirmed that Italian health authorities had diagnosed the passenger, a 54-year-old woman, with the common flu, a person familiar with the situation but not authorized to speak publicly, told USA TODAY.
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