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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,063 posts)
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 12:45 PM Aug 2020

LA to shut off water and power to party houses

Source: BBC

The mayor of Los Angeles has said the city will be authorised to shut off water and power to properties where large parties and gatherings are held in defiance of restrictions imposed to curb the spread of Covid-19.

Eric Garcetti said house parties had become "nightclubs in the hills" and that the focus would be on gatherings "posing significant public dangers".

The rule comes into force on Friday.

California is the worst-affected US state with over 532,000 cases.



Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/la-to-shut-off-water-and-power-to-party-houses/ar-BB17E3ZI?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP

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LA to shut off water and power to party houses (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 OP
AWESOME!! They are all around us here in Hollywood. Maybe some of us will be able to sleep again! chowder66 Aug 2020 #1
Agreed! calimary Aug 2020 #14
so many people are dying to have fun cynical_idealist Aug 2020 #17
There's always the swimming pools and toilets. chowder66 Aug 2020 #21
I just heard that they will get a 48 hour notice. chowder66 Aug 2020 #20
Good luck LA. Jerks always find a way. Sneederbunk Aug 2020 #2
And they're the ones who ruin it for the rest of us! Initech Aug 2020 #11
Yep. They'll rent generators and portable toilets. C Moon Aug 2020 #12
Dear god, would you use a portable toilet right now? Initech Aug 2020 #24
I take it for some reason the cops can't come and break up the parties? mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #3
If someone is on oxygen and invites hundreds of people over, they get what they get RockRaven Aug 2020 #4
I was equally concerned about legal liability for the city tbh mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #9
Maybe the one on oxygen isn't the one that did the inviting. Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #15
now wait ... stopdiggin Aug 2020 #16
Nobody is killing anybody. If you court a pain in your ass, you're gonna get a pain in your ass. RockRaven Aug 2020 #18
you're correct stopdiggin Aug 2020 #19
Great idea. dalton99a Aug 2020 #5
I'll give the Mayor an A+ for thinking outside the box, however the rich have backup KS Toronado Aug 2020 #6
Good BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #7
Could we extent that technique to the White House? KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2020 #8
Interesting approach MichMan Aug 2020 #10
These guys won't like it: Kingofalldems Aug 2020 #13
Good, I'm sick of selfish jerks affecting the rest Raine Aug 2020 #22
This is so weak. Steelrolled Aug 2020 #23

calimary

(80,693 posts)
14. Agreed!
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 03:18 PM
Aug 2020

For the life of me I can't understand why the party houses and the big crowded indoor gatherings.

Do you really wanna get sick and maybe die? 'Cause that HAPPENS! Just ask Herman Cain!



Oh wait...

chowder66

(9,010 posts)
21. There's always the swimming pools and toilets.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:47 PM
Aug 2020

I just posted in a reply that there is a 48 hour notice before the shut it off which baffles me on how that is a deterrent.


"If the LAPD responds and verifies that a large gathering is occurring at a property, and we see these properties reoffending time and time again, they will provide notice and initiate the process to request that [the Department of Water and Power] shut off service within the next 48 hours," Garcetti said.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/08/05/899636766/los-angeles-mayor-says-city-may-shut-off-water-power-at-houses-hosting-large-par

chowder66

(9,010 posts)
20. I just heard that they will get a 48 hour notice.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:45 PM
Aug 2020

How is that a deterrent?

"If the LAPD responds and verifies that a large gathering is occurring at a property, and we see these properties reoffending time and time again, they will provide notice and initiate the process to request that [the Department of Water and Power] shut off service within the next 48 hours," Garcetti said.


https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/08/05/899636766/los-angeles-mayor-says-city-may-shut-off-water-power-at-houses-hosting-large-par

C Moon

(12,188 posts)
12. Yep. They'll rent generators and portable toilets.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

They'd have to start writing tickets—but the police don't have the people power for that.

Initech

(99,909 posts)
24. Dear god, would you use a portable toilet right now?
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:31 PM
Aug 2020

Hell I wouldn't use a portable toilet *BEFORE* the pandemic and I'm usually not a germophobe ither.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. I take it for some reason the cops can't come and break up the parties?
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 12:49 PM
Aug 2020

Shutting off power and water seems more legally sketchy to me, but I'm no expert.

What if there's someone inside who's on an oxygen machine that needs plugged in or something like that?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. I was equally concerned about legal liability for the city tbh
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 01:17 PM
Aug 2020

What if it's a scenario where grandma lives in the guest house thus isn't involved in the party?

Just kinda seems to me like the cops breaking up the party makes more sense, esp. if you can come up with an excuse like 'excessive noise complaints'.

Mr.Bill

(24,103 posts)
15. Maybe the one on oxygen isn't the one that did the inviting.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 03:20 PM
Aug 2020

Maybe she's bedridden grandma upstairs in her bedroom while the younger ones are having the party downstairs.

Bottom line is, cutting off utilities can be a health hazard. Possibly they will only do it long enough to break up the party. Most medical equipment does have some battery back-up that will run it for awhile.

stopdiggin

(11,089 posts)
16. now wait ...
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 03:24 PM
Aug 2020

So if someone (illegally) invites a bunch of guests over to their house -- it's alright for the city to kill them? But police brutality and violent tactics against protesters is bad?

You might want to rethink some of this?
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RockRaven

(14,782 posts)
18. Nobody is killing anybody. If you court a pain in your ass, you're gonna get a pain in your ass.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:03 PM
Aug 2020

The city has made it clear they're gonna cut off electricity and water to these properties under these circumstances. If you're dependent on that electricity or water, don't act like a selfish fool, or you're gonna have to deal with the explicitly clear and pre-warned consequences.

There's no need to be overly dramatic. Law enforcement arrest or evict oxygen dependent people all the time, they can do it without endangering anyone. And this is no different, a little advanced notice of an immovable deadline and the person will have to deal with it. In the hypothesized scenario, any such person will have invited the resulting hassle. And that is even granting that there's even anyone at these properties when they get cut off, which is by no means certain, never mind a person with such needs.

stopdiggin

(11,089 posts)
19. you're correct
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:31 PM
Aug 2020

I was envisioning an immediate action in response to disorderly gatherings (the first link wasn't really that great). I looked further, and the city is actually proposing something like 48 hours (and suggesting that it will mostly go against repeat offenders). Nuisance property enforcement rather than action against an ongoing gathering.

So, I misread, and misunderstood the proposal -- and I stand corrected.

KS Toronado

(16,900 posts)
6. I'll give the Mayor an A+ for thinking outside the box, however the rich have backup
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 01:03 PM
Aug 2020

generators. Maybe he should follow trumpie's lead and teargas peaceful partyiers.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
8. Could we extent that technique to the White House?
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 01:08 PM
Aug 2020

They've been holding gatherings while breaking CDC rules for quite some time.......

Plus, they're a bunch of criminals!

MichMan

(11,778 posts)
10. Interesting approach
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 01:17 PM
Aug 2020

Community organizers in Detroit are arguing that shutting off water (for non payment) is a public heath hazard and there needs to be a moratorium.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
22. Good, I'm sick of selfish jerks affecting the rest
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 04:53 PM
Aug 2020

of us, we'll end up locked up for months due to their selfish behavior spreading the disease!

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