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would any try? none have forced them to go 100% remote, they won't care either way in NJ or MD which where just added for the cable subscribers in DC and NYC to balance out the sparse population of NEB

Most of these schools are state-owned so all it needs is a simple executive order.

haven't heard much from those?

Good luck, young fellers.

May all of your cells look like this --->

Will the schools cover up their Covid cases?

What a disgrace.

Any championship format made up on the fly is fucking bogus. This is all about money for big U’s, and doesn’t rep what is the true nature of competition.

Screw this BS.

or permanent disability from Covid-19? They have bets available for almost every other damn thing.

I would bet no, and the last time I saw the odds, they were 70-30 that they won’t play

... and the posters there seem to think the rumor is not true.

Seems the Cons think the more that get sick the better.

This is like when we opened back up too early last spring.

summer, some with fans in the stands both indoor and outdoor. At least where I live there were no outbreaks associated with them. So far, no outbreaks reported to be linked to the resumption of high school football where I am either, nor in neighboring Ohio.

After the initial outbreaks in StL and Miami, MLB, which isn't playing in a bubble, has been covid-free. I don't believe any games other than one in Cincinnati a few weeks ago have been postponed since. Nor have their been many cases (and no outbreaks) linked to NFL teams which have been in training camp for over a month. NFL training camps weren't conducted in a bubble either.

The key to all this seems to be regular testing. If the Big 10 does, that, then they could probably safely resume games.

1,145 POSITIVE/ 59 QUARANTINE/ 108 IN ISOLATION (as of 9/14/20)

https://virusinfo.psu.edu/covid-19-dashboard



Centre County (home to Penn State's main campus) has 1/10 the population of the city (county) of Philadelphia (where we have so far been able to get our daily cases down to the lowest since March - after tamping down the Temple University spike which forced them to go all-virtual).

the main campus, which, btw, does not include the town of State College.

We know cases tend to spike when something new opens up. It will be the same in Philadelphia as soon as Kenney relaxes his rules.

FWIW, Texas, the epicenter of re-opening (and a state that was the lead story on cable news for its shortage of ICU beds/ppe/etc just a few weeks ago), is no longer on the PA DoH's "must quarantine" if you've been there or are visiting from there list.

after their hybrid model failed. The rest of the other large universities in the city knew better and had already opted for virtual (like Drexel with 26,000 and Penn with 25,000). Only Temple took the risk and blew it. And since many of those at Temple who contracted the virus were not "permanent" residents of the city, they got counted elsewhere.

They started spiking the last week of August and had gotten up to over 400 by last week (forcing them to close the campus for the semester and go virtual with some exceptions). St. Joe's opted for hybrid and are up to 76 cases. Villanova, which also went hybrid was up to 70 as of yesterday.

Kenney and Farley (Health Dir.) are no fools and we are carefully calibrating any reopening here to keep our case counts down. We did NOT expand our indoor restaurant capacity allowances with the state nor are any bars open AT ALL unless food is served. We did expand the outdoor gatherings to 150. We are waiting to see if there is any fallout from Labor Day but fortunately we are finding that the mask usage indoors/at public transit locations (averaging 60% - 80% week to week) has definitely helped here.

Yesterday at the weekly presser, the city had referenced a study done on outdoors mask use, where although almost at 60%, a large percent were not worn correctly (below nose or as chin guards and whatnot), which will be a focus of new educational outreach efforts.

This virus usually dies down with drastic measures and can be reduced to small pockets of barely-simmering embers. But those embers are still hot and are waiting to re-spark wildfires when people get careless.

rural and open. Students are being tested and are unlikely to spread covid outside of the University Park campus and State College proper. Despite it's growth, there is still little for students to do outside of the immediate area.

Most of PA is rural. It starts getting "rural" a few miles from my house.

I think the concern is if infected students left campus. If most are not "permanent residents" of that county, and depending on their condition, then they might go home to their actual residences (wherever that is - another county, another state) and possibly spread it. And the other issue is that a good chunk of these students who have tested positive have been refusing to cooperate with contact tracers, so the problem is being severely under-reported in many cases.

not just students. Anyway, Fauci or CDC have said it's better for students to stay on campus and not told to return home.

My experience at UP was that a large chunk of the students were from Pittsburgh or Phila or the mid-state south of Centre county.

and over here, that has been the plea - to stay on campus or at least away from home (if possible because some schools, like Temple, had been either emptying dorm facilities except for special circumstances or other schools have been emptying dorms for quarantine space).

However as long as this type of stuff continues to go on (Nelk Boys raucous "event" at the South Jersey shore in Seaside Heights on Monday night with that same age group) -

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I would advise any relative or friend of mine considering colleges not to apply any Big 10 school that does this.

They postponed the Olympics, for goodness sake. How dense are these colleges???

If you thought the students' return to campuses brought an increase in COVID cases, just watch what happens when the football fans return. I worked for years in a Big 10 campus college store, and I have seen up close and personal what game day is like. It's bad. "Irresponsible" doesn't come close to describing what those fans are like during the entire weekend.

The big problem is that these universities say they plan to test athletes every day, but the community those fans invade doesn't have access to that testing. EVERY public establishment's employee will be exposed to COVID and they will keep working and spreading it.

We are all well and truly screwed in the name of sports and money.


Laura

at least not to begin

I have zero faith that the nobody allowed at the games thing will continue once the football season starts. This is ALL about the money. Local business has been weeping and moaning about the loss of income all the way through this. I am not naive enough to believe they will accept the no attendee rules because they don't make money without the stadium being open.

YMMV, but here where I live I will be staggered if the stadium stays closed.



Laura

Deaths are down from a peak in early May. If, like the NFL, they're playing in front of no fans, it seems like it could be a reasonable risk / benefit trade off.

I realize we're talking about lives here, but Americans in general seem to be over the whole thing and are willing to take risks to return to normalcy. Even blue states are opening up their economies, and ending bans on higher risk activities.

Maybe things will change when the weather turns colder, but for outdoor activities, my experience is people are judging the risk to themselves is low.

The ADs and football coaches at these schools are bigger influencers than the College Presidents by a long stretch. There's just too much money at stake for these teams not to make a run at it. Hopefully each college will keep scholarships for those players who choose not to play (assuming they are given that opportunity). I guess at this stage we just hope people behave and follow the rules and see what happens.

even though they don't either way if play in those places, and they stopped caring about academics when they added the place where N is Knowledge

that COVID-myocarditis thing must not be a big deal. Hell, nothing is a big deal.