Two more anti-abortion bills sent to governor; statewide vote coming 2014 (North Dakota)
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Source: Grand Forks Herald
While Tammi Kromenaker, director of the Red River Womens Clinic in Fargo, the states only abortion clinic, said she is completely disappointed North Dakota legislators would want to go this far, a leading abortion opponent says their actions reflect the desire of residents to protect all human life.
House lawmakers passed two bills Friday that seek stricter regulations over abortions performed in the state, joining two other abortion regulation bills that are awaiting Gov. Jack Dalrymples signature.
North Dakota voters will also have their say in the abortion debate in 2014. A resolution passed Friday to change the constitution to protect human beings at every stage of life, such as conception, is now on the statewide ballot. It does not require the governors signature.
The resolutions sponsor, Sen. Margaret Sitte, R-Bismarck, said she was glad the resolution is going to a vote of the people and thinks they will uphold it, affirming their belief in the right to life.
Read more: http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/259518/
See also think progress "North Dakota Becomes First State To Ban All Abortions By Defining Life At Conception"
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)In any event, shame on N.D.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)But they don't care.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)is to keep assing them and appealing them until they get one to the Scalia Five that can overturn Roe v. Wade.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)So if the average person hears Personhood, "abortion" comes immediately to mind, instead of corporatism.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Spartacus Maximus XL
(83 posts)VA_Jill
(9,966 posts)that I understand even a lot of Republicans are protesting it.
benld74
(9,904 posts)the Citizen United ruling!
"The inalienable right to life at every human being at any stage of development must be recognized and protected.
Therefore Corporations can NEVER be people!
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)Obviously. This (and any bill like it) is a bill mandating compulsory pregnancy for women ie: reproductive slavery. Women are considered breeding cattle, not humans. Sad. Sad. Sad how easily women are stripped of their human rights in America in 2013.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)"The inalienable right to life at every human being at any stage of development must be recognized and protected.
Sounds like even if a criminal violated someone's right to life that this law would prohibit the state from depriving someone of their life.
WeRQ4U
(4,212 posts)...but North Dakota (as a state) hasn't had the DP since 1973 and hasn't actually executed anyone since 1905. Rapist Alfonso Rodriguez is the only person on death row for a crime committed in North Dakota and he was tried in a federal court.
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)as a ND attorney (and not a proud one at the moment, attorney or resident), I believe that a strong case could be made that ND police officers could not use deadly force against an armed suspect, even to protect their own lives. Constitutions deal with state or federal actions - if the right to life is enshrined in the ND Constitution as 'inalienable' and to be 'protected' in such strict terms, police officers (employees of the state) would be obliged to refrain from any actions that might jeopardize another life, even if acting in self defense.
Presumably, the state would also be obliged to pay for any and all life-saving medical procedures for any and all patients at any age.
Hm... driving have to be prohibited also, being a very clear contributor to many deaths. Of course, guns in the home would have to be banned - how else could we protect the inalienable right to life, especially for minors, when in-home gun deaths are such an obvious problem?
In fact - I think dying would have to be prohibited entirely. A truly 'inalienable' right to life, that must be protected by Constitutional mandate, would necessitate it. Conventional theory generally supposes that the right to life ends at the point of death, and is therefore not truly 'inalienable'. Probably all wills would have to be ruled unenforceable - how could ND courts enforce such monstrous death-envisioning instruments? Funerals? - yikes! Such hideous formal recognitions of unconstitutional activities could not be tolerated.
Could be interesting....
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)03/21/2013
A group of GOP state lawmakers in North Dakota will protest new abortion restrictions on Monday at a Stand Up for Women rally in Bismarck, N.D., because they believe their fellow Republicans have gone too far.
"It's to say, hey, this isn't okay. We have stepped over the line," said state Rep. Kathy Hawken (R-Fargo) in a phone interview with The Huffington Post. "One of the key tenets of the Republican Party is personal responsibility. I'm personally pro-life, but I vote pro-choice, because you can't make that decision for anyone else. You just can't."
North Dakota recently passed the most restrictive abortion ban in the nation, which prohibits abortions after six weeks of pregnancy, and a bill preventing pregnant women from choosing abortion based on a fetal anomaly or genetic disorder. The state also has a "trigger ban," which would prohibit abortion entirely if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned.
Lawmakers are currently considering two "fetal personhood" measures that would effectively ban abortion in the state and complicate the legality of birth control, stem cell research and in vitro fertilization. Hawken said the personhood bills are so extreme that she and approximately 10 of her Republican colleagues in the state legislature -- both men and women -- were inspired to speak out in defense of women's rights.
"North Dakota hasn't even passed a primary seatbelt law, but we have the most invasive attack on womens health anywhere," she said. "I got a letter yesterday from a pharmacist who said, 'We don't want to be in jail because we prescribed something!' We're spending an inordinate amount of time on social or personal issues, however you want to put it, but we haven't done anything on property tax relief, higher education funding, fixing the roads. There are all kinds of other things we need to be doing besides this."
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Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/north-dakota-abortion-_n_2926858.html
tanyev
(42,552 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)protect those preborn babies, right? Good grief.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)And every sperm, sacred.
A womans entire "egg inventory" would be catalogued and closely monitored by the State.
No sex outside marriage; no sex outside procreation.
No contraception.
Women stripped of their right to vote on womens issues.
Miscarriages and still births, etc., now felonies.
Etc.
Police State.
Republican Nirvana.
Sick Republican f/ckers.
ancianita
(36,031 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 23, 2013, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)
Save North Dakota's population!! This is going to be a field day for lawyers.
If lawmakers are seriously serious, they must demand that the state's seven-plus private fertility clinics should be shut down by the attorney general and law enforcement or other state agents, pending the 'head count' of embryos presently held captive within those clinics, and until the 'just cause' of the charge of kidnapping and child abuse has been investigated and properly adjudicated.
All presidents, governing boards and employee accessories-after-the-fact of said embryo/fertility clinics must be certified in child care and subject to mandatory reporting laws. All presidents, governing boards and employee accessories-after-the-fact of said embryo/fertility clinics are subject to indictment for negligent child abuse for the tens of thousands of those 'persons' frozen, as well as negligent homicide for any/all embryo 'persons' shed after implantation.
Anyone should now suppose that these embryos can very well become wards of the state, if and when all those parents just begging for more children out there just can 'adopt' any more. Unless the private clinics seek to establish permanent official custody of said 'persons;' and not petition for the 'persons' to become wards of the state; in either case, anything fertility clinics, their owners and assigns do to destroy or endanger the lives of these persons can make them subject to criminal charges.
alp227
(32,019 posts)ancianita
(36,031 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Where's the outrage possee when you need 'em?
alp227
(32,019 posts)the Adria Richards incident...our nation is just SICK, man. America is hardly any better than Saudi Arabia the way its people see women. I think at the MacFarlane threads the battles were between those who see it as just entertainment and others who take a more analytical view thus those threads get the "flame" icon (to indicate 50+ replies), and I think topics that generate heated arguments/many various POVs get the flames. But in issues like abortion rights or gay marriage where DU is near united in support those threads don't get "flames". The more outrageous, the more buzz.
Dan
(3,551 posts)in states that want to restrict (and have taken actions) the right to choice, why the other party has not tried to pass legislation demanding that said State must provide for quality of life for those born.
If the belief is that life is so important that the State has a right to deny choice, then it must be that life is important enough that the State is willing to pay the price to ensure that all those born in the state have a quality of life, which entitles them to:
Adequate/decent food from post birth to adulthood, regardless of parents abilities to provide.
Adequate health care from prenatal to adulthood.
Quality education...
Shelter and clothes...
Etc.
The cost or price to provide these services should not be an issue.