That's all I have to say.

I have a sneaking suspicion there is no MSM coverage.

I was shocked to read it here, tonight.

I posted a thread the other day in general discussion with a different news article and no one commented. I was thinking that no one cared about something that churns my stomach daily and makes my head want to explode. Its evil and beind done in our name.

story is: "Good, saves us taxpayer money, let them starve themselves to death." I think most Americans believe they're all guilty, all terrorists.

I kid, kind of. I have chosen not to have cable and therefore, am much more selective about what I watch via the internet. I did miss this one though, which is sad, because that means that it isn't likely to get legs (if the political wonks are getting surprised, do you think mainstream America has any clue?) and those men will probably die without any notice. That sucks.

Mostly MSNBC, sometimes CNN, show up all the time in posts about some current topic.

FWIW, the Gitmo story is being covered on Twitter, esp. by Anon..which is where I got it a few weeks ago.
I am learning to use Twitter as a one stop headlines/current events page, tons of info. pop up.

...that doesn't mean anything, because I don't watch much MSM media anymore. The only real news we can get anymore is from the foreign press and our brilliant alternative media via the internet and satellite TV.

Even with the damn slow dsl we have out here in the boonies, I know much more about the world than most folks in town who have cable.
But gosh, people around here are not well versed about computers...they know how to fire it up and how to find
Facebook and Farmville and Yahoo, and email, but that is about it.

Guantanamo and the fact that we have detained these people without giving them any rights or recourse is a blight upon our country. Certainly not the only blight, we are covered with the festering wounds of imperialism, but it is the blight that is currently so very obvious. That and Afghanistan, which, BTW, will destroy us as it has every other empire that dared to go against them. Afghanistan is strangely mighty. They have been a part of destroying two empires already and we're standing in line for number three.

They stick those horrible feeding tubes down their throats. They have gone on hunger strikes before, and this is what they always do...force feed them. All I can remember in my mind is John McCain ( may have been some other jerk Republican) telling about what good food they get at Gitmo.

What kind of monsters are we living under? Giving our power to?

These guys are on American soil

But it's not reported because they're out of site and out of mind.

Growing Guantanamo Bay hunger strike springs from ‘hopelessness,’ says lawyer

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/03/26/growing_hunger_strike_at_guantanamo_bay_springs_from_hopelessness_says_lawyer.html


Miami herald

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/24/3303644/at-guantanamo-camps-war-on-terror.html?asset_id=Guant%26%23xE1%3Bnamo%20guards%20dumping%20lunch%20in%20trash&asset_type=html_module


NYtimes
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/26/us/guantanamo-hunger-strike-appears-to-widen.html

keeping them there. And they CAN'T let them die or commit suicide because then they wouldn't be alive to continue tormenting with hopelessness as punishment for something they haven't been tried for or convicted of.

Some days I really hate my country.

Guantanamo inmates complain of not being given drinking water and having to cope with extremely low temperatures, their lawyers have said. As the Gitmo hunger strike enters its 51st day, the White House has made its first comment on the protest.

Guantanamo detainees who have been refusing food for weeks now complain of being denied drinking water, according to Yemeni prisoner Musaab al-Madhwani, who spoke with his attorney by phone on Monday. He also claimed that temperatures at the camp were being kept extremely low.

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President Obama vowed to close down Guantanamo at the beginning of his first term in office in 2009; he was blocked from fulfilling that promise by legislation passed by the US Congress.

Speaking to RT, former US Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs under Barack Obama, P.J. Crowley, explained that Obama’s hands have been tied by lawmakers, who put a ban on transferring detainees to the mainland US. “It clearly is the United States Congress that's basically frozen the situation in place,” Crowley said.

http://rt.com/news/gitmo-hunger-strike-mistreatment-972/

their home countries by enacting some kind of law prohibiting them from being returned to certain countries..like yemen.so, its not congress, its obama creating a catch 22 for those prisoners

sometime in the last week or ten days

would end up there. Not for eternity but the same amount of time each and every detainee spent in Guantanamo Bay (and other prisons before the transfer).

Do I feel somehow more sorry for those detainees than other people? NO. Feel sick because EVERYONE, doesn't matter how bad, horrible and despicable they are MUST be treated humanely at the very least. YMMV' but I will not allow myself to drop to the level of those I despise the most for approving, executing and permitting torture, murder, war crimes, assassinations, rape, etc, etc.

Guantanamo Bay has been a real sore spot for me since it opened. When I read this story I thought of the feeding tubes they used to use. This reminds me of the Chinese sweat shops where they put the suicide nets around the buildings so you can't even kill yourself. No longer are we in control of anything, not even how we die. It is so horrible when human beings have to resort to these measures and it shows you how far gone we are. It also reminds me of that soldier who is staving himself and the born again's crusade to force women to deliver babies to term even when it threatens their life.... Oh the humanity, I really weep for my children and for all of them.... we are soul less... and powerless.....

And didn't Obama say that we no longer torture anyone?

to the physical point that you are no longer able to make competent decisions. Feeding them isn't torture, and I'm not sure force feeding them is torture, either. It's basically not allowing them to commit suicide.

I do.

What is the intent of this treatment?

Punishment?

But why would they be punished if they have not been convicted of crimes?

or death. I have inserted feeding tubes into patients, it's certainly unpleasant for a minute or so. But it's not torture. The point isn't the hunger strike, it's their overall fate. This country's leaders (Obama, Congress, the Pentagon) need to muster the intestinal fortitude to process these detainees.

what about subjecting the prisoners to extreme temperatures?

what about the mental limbo of being held indefinitely?

Gitmo officials deny it. I honestly do not believe they'd withhold water. That would be certain death within a few days. It would be so blatant a crime, there would be bodies piling up. What I'd read is that the prison wasn't supplying bottled water, but tap water, and the prisoners refused to drink the tap water for fear it was unsafe. Extreme temps--can't remember offhand what the laws are governing that, but I doubt that also, although years ago possibly it was being done. Might also be perception--I imagine if you're starving yourself, you'd feel cold all the time. I had anemia, couldn't get warm no matter how many layers I wore. The mental anguish and desperation, though, are very real. It's clear that we need to break through the impasse and deal with this.

why is that?

I've said it was a stain on our country, and a terrible example to the rest of the world--Congress needs to pass the required laws to allow trials, repatriation, whatever. I do think it's not the fault of those who run the camp, though. They're being closely monitored, and the prisoners' complaints and hunger strikes are to be expected. I would do the same thing if I were them--try to draw attention to my plight. They're probably getting despondent by now.