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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 03:37 PM Mar 2013

President Obama orders commission to address voting issues

Source: Associated Press

President Barack Obama has signed an executive order establishing a presidential commission to address voting issues.

Obama announced his plans to create the commission last month in his State of the Union address. The top lawyer for Obama's re-election campaign, Bob Bauer, will co-chair the commission with the top lawyer for Republican Mitt Romney's campaign, Ben Ginsburg.

The goal is to address issues including long lines at the polls, voter registration and voter access.

The order gives the commission six months after its first public meeting to submit a report to Obama about ways to improve the voting experience.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-orders-commission-address-voting-issues



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President Obama orders commission to address voting issues (Original Post) cal04 Mar 2013 OP
Yay! DoBotherMe Mar 2013 #1
Ginsberg has been one of the leaders of the stop people of color or Democrats from voting. Wellstone ruled Mar 2013 #2
Why would Pres Obama appoint a dickhead like this? nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #3
"Reaching across the aisle" Doctor_J Mar 2013 #8
I can see some good in it. mercymechap Mar 2013 #12
I dont give a crap if the Repubs gripe. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #15
I don't either but mercymechap Mar 2013 #32
We should have learned by now that those that believe the Repukes arent worth trying to rhett o rick Mar 2013 #33
It's a start - need to keep momentum through this year and the next score of years. freshwest Mar 2013 #4
Bob Bauer will school the crap out of Cha Mar 2013 #5
Can Bob Bauer DallasNE Mar 2013 #17
Another promise kept. nt sheshe2 Mar 2013 #6
Excellent move! Grateful for Hope Mar 2013 #7
Hopefully the recommendations will include long terms Doctor_J Mar 2013 #9
as part of my civic duty I hereby save them 6 months and lots of $$ by giving them ideas... msongs Mar 2013 #10
If programmable electronic voting is used the machine must provide two copies of the vote to the xtraxritical Mar 2013 #18
If I were to change it I would only ask for two things. zeemike Mar 2013 #20
That idea is as good or better than mine. No machines is best. No internet voting either, no way. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #21
I'm not convinced the national holiday would really increase the vote davidpdx Mar 2013 #29
VOTE BY MAIL jeffrey_pdx Mar 2013 #22
I agree davidpdx Mar 2013 #30
Good move. mercymechap Mar 2013 #11
Without the power to actually implement their suggestions, this commission Arkana Mar 2013 #13
Yes, as one of the Obamanauts said yesterday, Doctor_J Mar 2013 #19
Ginsberg is under contract maindawg Mar 2013 #14
One can only hope this Commission will look at the whole gambit of ways 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #16
it matters as much who counts, as who votes oldhippydude Mar 2013 #23
Totally. nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #24
Very valid points, gerrymandering is a big problem, districts made to give offices to Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #26
Thank you for your service 99th_Monkey Mar 2013 #34
support this!! oldandhappy Mar 2013 #25
A link to the text of Pres Obama's Executive Order, below Tx4obama Mar 2013 #27
HOW ABOUT ADDRESSING THIS? woo me with science Mar 2013 #28
mmmm, yummy, more catfood. Myrina Mar 2013 #31

DoBotherMe

(2,339 posts)
1. Yay!
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 03:41 PM
Mar 2013

We're going to have record Democratic turnout in the midterms, he knows the republican shenanigans need to stop for the majority to be heard. Dana ; )

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Ginsberg has been one of the leaders of the stop people of color or Democrats from voting.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 03:51 PM
Mar 2013

Fox and Henhouse syndrome.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. "Reaching across the aisle"
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:29 PM
Mar 2013

I guess he couldn't find a Repuke who isn't a despicable pig. This is a lot like picking Alan Simpson to head a budget commission.

mercymechap

(579 posts)
12. I can see some good in it.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:46 PM
Mar 2013

Keeps the Republican/conservatives from griping that Obama doesn't reach out and that they are totally left out, and if he pushes too hard toward the right's agenda, Bauer is the one that can straighten him out.

Just sayin...................

mercymechap

(579 posts)
32. I don't either but
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:40 PM
Mar 2013

some people are gullible and will believe them, and turn against us. At least this way, they have to look at reality.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
33. We should have learned by now that those that believe the Repukes arent worth trying to
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 02:12 PM
Mar 2013

convince. Waste of time.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
17. Can Bob Bauer
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:35 PM
Mar 2013

Stand up to Ben Ginsberg? Ginsberg, after all, was key to Bush v Gore and we know how that turned out. Don't be surprised if Voter ID is one of the provisions recommended when fraud is prevented not by purges of currently register voters based on a profile but steps at registeration time that assures elgibility to vote. But, I guess we wait and see.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. Hopefully the recommendations will include long terms
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:31 PM
Mar 2013

in real federal prisons for people like Walker. Deterrence will be key.

msongs

(67,347 posts)
10. as part of my civic duty I hereby save them 6 months and lots of $$ by giving them ideas...
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:34 PM
Mar 2013

election day registration
early voting 7 days a week for a month in advance
sufficient ballots/polling booths in all precincts
ballots/machines available in equal proportion at all precincts
eliminate bullying/intimidation inside/outside polling places

I am sure DUers will have many more.

unless this commission is just another hack PR stunt....

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
18. If programmable electronic voting is used the machine must provide two copies of the vote to the
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:46 PM
Mar 2013

voters. One copy the voter will keep for his/her records the other copy will be deposited into a locked container, these to be used as an audit trail (check on the machine tallies).

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
20. If I were to change it I would only ask for two things.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:58 PM
Mar 2013

Voting day a national holiday.
And hand counting of ballots on receipt at the polling place ...(you drop your paper ballot down a slot that goes to a room with some old people at a table that count it and confirm it on the spot and tabulate it, and when the polls close post the results at the polling place)

It would accomplish two important things....makes voting a holiday and insures an accurate and honest vote....no computer or software glitches...and a hell of a lot cheaper than paying thousands for a computer to do what a senior citizen would love to do to make a few bucks extra....and no need to store the computers till next time.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. I'm not convinced the national holiday would really increase the vote
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:22 AM
Mar 2013

We have that here in Korea and I can tell you most of the young people blow off voting to do something else. Maybe it would be more effective in the US.

Vote by mail as someone else suggested down thread would be better. As an Oregonian I really have liked that.

jeffrey_pdx

(222 posts)
22. VOTE BY MAIL
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:20 PM
Mar 2013

We have it here in Oregon. It's great. Get your ballot. Take some time to think about it. Mail it in.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. I agree
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:24 AM
Mar 2013

I wish some of the other states would head the same direction. The only two states that are exclusively vote by mail are Washington and Oregon.

It sure would eliminate some of those lines in the bigger states where people had to stand in line for hours (Ohio, Florida, etc).

mercymechap

(579 posts)
11. Good move.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:36 PM
Mar 2013

With all the methods Republican/conservatives are creating to restrict voting, something needs to be done to curtail it.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
13. Without the power to actually implement their suggestions, this commission
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:48 PM
Mar 2013

is basically the UN--sure, they can suggest we sort out our shit, but they can't make us.

Mark my words--nothing will come of it, and Republican-dominated states will continue fucking minority voters over.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
19. Yes, as one of the Obamanauts said yesterday,
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:47 PM
Mar 2013

"Commissions are where ideas go to die". This is all for show - nothing will happen.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
14. Ginsberg is under contract
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:57 PM
Mar 2013

he will work for whomever pays him his fee. He probably gets about 1000 $ an hour.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
16. One can only hope this Commission will look at the whole gambit of ways
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:13 PM
Mar 2013

elections are stolen, and not narrowly focus on one or two of the ways there are to cheat.

Here are some examples of ways elections are rigged:
1) Electronic voting machines and/or tabulators being hacked
2) Gerrymandering
3) Voter purges designed to target a particular demographic, under the guise of "cleaning up the voting rolls".
4) Onerous voter ID requirements
5) Distribution of patently false and deliberately misleading information to a targeted demographic as to the
date they are supposed to vote, the location of their ballot box, etc.
6) The super-rich "buying" elections, via Citizens United.

and I'm sure there are more as this is just off the top of my head. Not unsurprisingly, these are the ways the GOP have become accustomed to buggering elections in the US of A.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
23. it matters as much who counts, as who votes
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:24 PM
Mar 2013

even if we are able to insure access to the polls, it means little unless we have a completely verifiable paper trail...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. Very valid points, gerrymandering is a big problem, districts made to give offices to
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:23 PM
Mar 2013

Republicans. Making rules to have id's when many older people do not drive anymore and make several trips to get the proper ID. Purging voter rolls, picking on Democrat areas to have many names removed, what do you want to bet if the name was Republican they did not purge it. Voter fraud like the Republican lady on Colorado attempting to vote twice. After the SC gave the election to Bush in 2000 I don't think I would cry voter fraud.

BTW, I am one of the old people who works at the polls on voting day, I can not speak for all places but I work with very knowledgeable judges who do everything possible to see that everyone to vote.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
25. support this!!
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:27 PM
Mar 2013

Yes, citizens have a right to vote. Tis up to the counties, states, country to make sure citizens have the chance to vote. Yes.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
31. mmmm, yummy, more catfood.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:15 AM
Mar 2013

Except this time, it's going to be in the form of 'voter review' & I'm sure they'll agree that same day registration & early voting IS a problem and requiring Voter ID IS actually ok ....

Where the hell do I live?? This is not the America I grew up with.

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