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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:18 PM Mar 2013

North Korea leader orders rocket units on standby to hit U.S. bases: KCNA

Source: Reuters

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un orders the country's rocket units to be on standby to attack U.S. military bases in South Korea and the Pacific in an emergency meeting on Friday after the United States flew Stealth bombers in a show of force to Pyongyang.

The North's official KCNA news agency said Kim signed off on the orders at a midnight meeting of top generals and "judged the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists in view of the prevailing situation."

"He finally signed the plan on technical preparations of strategic rockets of the KPA, ordering them to be standby for fire so that they may strike any time the U.S. mainland, its military bases in the operational theaters in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea."

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/us-korea-north-kim-idUSBRE92R12E20130328



The DPRK version of Defcon seems to have a lot of levels...
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North Korea leader orders rocket units on standby to hit U.S. bases: KCNA (Original Post) Bosonic Mar 2013 OP
Yeah...they went from Super-Duper Ready to Extremely Ready to TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #1
If they try that one they will be dust! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2013 #24
We're ready, yep we are really ready-ready this time. We did an extra readiness review for the RKP5637 Mar 2013 #2
Seems like Kim Jon Un wants his government to be overthrown. MinneapolisMatt Mar 2013 #3
True enough, but Berlin Expat Mar 2013 #4
Right now, it's a one person game of mine's bigger than your's. When the A-10's show up, the shit's firenewt Mar 2013 #6
I've pretty much said the same thing davidpdx Mar 2013 #30
Tic-Tac-Toe is a stupid game... Agnosticsherbet Mar 2013 #5
"How about a nice game of chess?" maddogesq Mar 2013 #7
Good movie davidpdx Mar 2013 #29
Kim Jong-un is more dangerous that his father or grandfather... Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #8
Wait, didn't he go to private school in Switzerland? JVS Mar 2013 #14
Public school, under an assumed name. N/T GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #33
...but every moment before and since then, he's been told he's a God. Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #38
Oooohhhhh, I'm so scared. Effin' psychos with pea shooters IMHO. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #9
I hope no one has forgotten defacto7 Mar 2013 #10
Are you talking about Korean Airlines flight 007? That was in 1983. Ash_F Mar 2013 #13
The soviets shot down KAL 007 Jayster84 Mar 2013 #15
KAL 858 defacto7 Mar 2013 #21
Flight 655 was horrific. Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #39
LOL! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Mar 2013 #11
? nt Javaman Mar 2013 #26
"the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists" Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #12
You all may laugh at this, pscot Mar 2013 #16
You have every reason to be concerned. Whether that could actually come to pass... Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #17
Kim Jong-Boo Boo accomplished what he set out to do Snake Plissken Mar 2013 #18
That was my 1st thought pscot Mar 2013 #19
A couple of B-2s flew to South Korea. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #34
The B-52s have been flying on the SK side, but within sight of DMZ, as deterrence. politicat Mar 2013 #36
Easy there- James48 Mar 2013 #20
Good point. Thanks defacto7 Mar 2013 #22
Curious as to your thoughts about President Park Geun-hye. Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #27
She has stated that she won't let NK get away with attacks. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #35
+1 TomClash Mar 2013 #31
YAwn n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #23
ATTN Kim Jung UN Botany Mar 2013 #25
I'll stay away from the coast in case of a tsunami Left Coast2020 Mar 2013 #28
Performance art or nuclear brinkmanship? Bosonic Mar 2013 #32
What if Kim Jong-un has George Dubya Bush syndrome? Paladin Mar 2013 #37

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. Yeah...they went from Super-Duper Ready to Extremely Ready to
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:21 PM
Mar 2013

Oh My God, We Are So Ready to Standby. Honestly, I don't want to know what comes next. Hopefully, they'll stop at Standby.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
2. We're ready, yep we are really ready-ready this time. We did an extra readiness review for the
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:24 PM
Mar 2013

ready to go!

MinneapolisMatt

(1,550 posts)
3. Seems like Kim Jon Un wants his government to be overthrown.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:24 PM
Mar 2013

North Korea may get a shot off, but in the long run it will be over for his family's regime.

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
4. True enough, but
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:39 PM
Mar 2013

that's not to say he can't inflict some damage before the Kim dynasty comes to an end. Mostly on his own hapless people, but some on the South as well.

 

firenewt

(298 posts)
6. Right now, it's a one person game of mine's bigger than your's. When the A-10's show up, the shit's
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:49 PM
Mar 2013

about to get real.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. I've pretty much said the same thing
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:18 AM
Mar 2013

And when I say "bring it on" (as in North Korea firing the first shot) the peace noogie crowd here goes postal and seems to think it's wrong for South Korea and the US to defend themselves if the North Attacks.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
8. Kim Jong-un is more dangerous that his father or grandfather...
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:57 PM
Mar 2013

...because he hasn't known a life other than one of infallibility and invincibility. His grandpappy was born into poverty, and his dad was born the son of a military man (kinda like McCain). Jung-un, however, has always been told he is the most important man on earth. THAT must mess with his melon enough that he thinks he'd actually WIN in a confrontation with the ROK and, by close extension, the US.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
14. Wait, didn't he go to private school in Switzerland?
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:54 PM
Mar 2013

I really doubt the Swiss were so deferential to him.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. I hope no one has forgotten
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:13 PM
Mar 2013

NK shot a defenceless passenger jet out of the sky some years ago without provocation. Killed everyone... over 200 I think??? It seems they will shoot when they decide it's time to be stupid.

Don't expect logic; their ideology is way beyond that.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
13. Are you talking about Korean Airlines flight 007? That was in 1983.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:43 PM
Mar 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007
NK gov gave some excuses for their belligerence afterwards.

But Guess what, the US did the same thing a shorter time ago in 1988 and killed even more people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
The US gov gave similar excuses for their belligerence when that happened.

I'm not sure if that is the best example to show one Government is more belligerent than the other. As for the OP, NK forces have artillery pointed at American forces? That is great because the American forces have artillery pointed at them. It's a wonderful situation all around.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
21. KAL 858
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:15 PM
Mar 2013

I have my disasters out of order. 007 was shot down by the Soviet Union. KAL 858 was a bomb planted by NK.

I never said anything about comparing belligerent behaviour of different governments. Not sure where you got that from. I'm talking about willingness to act compared to sabre rattling. I'm comparing them to themselves.

But I'm not sure I made a good point anyway.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
39. Flight 655 was horrific.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:54 PM
Mar 2013

In a way, it mirrored the conundrum around using drones today. Thru a 2-dimentional CRT (or LCD monitor today), targets cannot be completely ID'd until it's too late.

In the case of Flt 655, the crew aboard the USS Vincennes had a case of "scenario fulfillment"; after practicing procedures used when an attack from the air might be imminent, they got a form of "buck fever" and started shooting at anything that was flying towards them.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. "the time has come to settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists"
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 08:26 PM
Mar 2013

These guys are cartoon characters.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
16. You all may laugh at this,
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:03 PM
Mar 2013

but I live in the upper left-hand corner and that loony might be able to hit us.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
17. You have every reason to be concerned. Whether that could actually come to pass...
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:06 PM
Mar 2013

...is a different matter, however. I really don't think anything North Korea launches is much of a danger to long range targets like Alaska or Hawaii. That's just my guess. Japan and closer targets (including, obviously, Seoul) are much more in danger.

PB

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
34. A couple of B-2s flew to South Korea.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:38 AM
Mar 2013

No B-52s mentioned. We haven't overflown the North, unless you count satelittes.

James48

(4,435 posts)
20. Easy there-
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:46 PM
Mar 2013

Those of us with a vested interest *(and still have our TA-50 packed) know
that this is a very serious matter.

The North has a tradition of testing new South Korean leaders, and people die when they do.

Now we have both a new South Korean President, and a new North Korean leader- so the risk is double past experiences in leadership changes.

If they wanted, the North can do a LOT of damage. Let's not encourage them to try and find out.

I've spent a bit of time on the Korean Peninsula. Not a great place to think about fighting a war. Trust me on that one.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
27. Curious as to your thoughts about President Park Geun-hye.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:55 PM
Mar 2013

My understanding is that a North Korean assassin killed her mother. I wonder if she might be more willing to see the balloon go up than some of her predecessors.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
35. She has stated that she won't let NK get away with attacks.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:51 AM
Mar 2013

Sinking SK warships and shelling SK territory will be answered in kind has been the public position she took to get elected.

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
31. +1
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 05:14 AM
Mar 2013

A knowledgeable post.

The US and the DPRK may be on the brink of war just when there may be a renewed presence in Afghanistan. It is not funny.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
25. ATTN Kim Jung UN
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:12 PM
Mar 2013

Every fixed artillery piece you have, every missile launching site you have,
and every military plane you have will be gone w/in 10 minutes of you
starting a war w/the south ....... your computers will be down, you will
have no way to communicate with your forces, and your entire command
structure will either be dead or in hiding too.

BTW this time China will not have your back either.

For the love of God please do what your dad and grand dad did ... just ask for
food from the West.

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
32. Performance art or nuclear brinkmanship?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:09 AM
Mar 2013
Glimpse of North Korea's plan of attack on US?

North Korean state media issued two photos Friday that, either by accident or design, appeared to show plans for striking the US mainland, as well as details of the North's military strength.

The pictures, released by the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), both showed leader Kim Jong-Un sitting at a desk in what looked like a dedicated military operations room.

The photos accompanied a KCNA report on an emergency meeting with top army leaders in which Kim ordered strategic rocket units to prepare for a possible strike against US mainland and Pacific bases.

One picture showed Kim amongst four uniformed officers, but the main interest lay in the background. The left of the picture showed a map with the unambiguous title: "Strategic Forces' US Mainland Striking Plan."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/glimpse-of-north-koreas-plan-of-attack-on-us/story-fnddckzi-1226609165555





Paladin

(28,252 posts)
37. What if Kim Jong-un has George Dubya Bush syndrome?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:19 AM
Mar 2013

What if Kim desperately thinks he has to show he's a bigger bad-ass than his daddy, and is willing to be led into pretty much anything to prove it?

Those of you who are blowing off the current situation are naive to the point of idiocy, given the recent history of the U.S.......
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