Breaking: Hagel Says WH Moved Quickly on Prisoner Swap Because Sgt. Bergdahl's Life Was in Danger
Source: Associated Press
@AP: BREAKING: Hagel says White House moved quickly on prisoner swap because Sgt. Bergdahl's life was in danger: http://t.co/xAeapJ2Y48
HAGEL: CAPTIVE'S LIFE WAS IN DANGER
By LOLITA C. BALDOR
Jun. 1, 2014 5:25 AM EDT
BAGRAM AIR FIELD, Afghanistan (AP) U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Sunday the military operation to free Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl from the Taliban in exchange for the release of five Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detainees was not relayed to Congress because officials believed the soldier's life was in danger.
In his first extensive public comments about Saturday's operation, Hagel said intelligence the U.S. had gathered suggested that Bergdahl's "safety and health were both in jeopardy, and in particular his health was deteriorating."
Taliban members handed Bergdahl over to special operations forces in eastern Afghanistan, and later in the day the detainees were flown from the Guantanamo detention center to Qatar.
The Pentagon did not give Congress the required 30-day notice for the release of detainees.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/hagel-captives-life-was-danger
babylonsister
(171,035 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)death bed.. They can't handle President Obama making a move without their whining disingenuous input.
kairos12
(12,843 posts)Not their family, they don't care.
Berlin Expat
(949 posts)may well be one of the reasons Congress wasn't notified.
Only a handful of people knew about the operation and Hagel said "we couldn't afford any leaks anywhere, for obvious reasons."
The Pentagon was probably concerned some member of Congress would've ran off to the press with his or her "hot tip" or possibly attempted to obstruct the process. The GOP's hatred for President Obama is deep and abiding enough that they would cheerfully leave a POW in enemy hands if it makes President Obama look bad.
alsame
(7,784 posts)done everything they could to sabotage this deal.
Berlin Expat
(949 posts)doubt that they would do everything in their power to sabotage the deal. And of course, you would've had the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and all the rest of that misbegotten ilk screaming night and day.
They'll still scream about it....but now it's a fait accompli and there's nothing they can do.
Cha
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White house must feel #Bergdahl parents flanking Obama will take sting out of criticism of deal with taliban
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.@mitchellreports - Love it how @BarackObama makes the corrupt, war mongering #msm hacks bitter by the minute.
@mitchellreports Heartless comment. Poor parents, if they accidentally saw that. Barbara WaWa finally retired. Why not you?
3:59 PM - 31 May 2014
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Really, Andrea? "The White House must feel..".. how the f*** would you know how the White House feels about anything?
Berlin Expat
(949 posts)there's a trade for an American POW, we can send them Andrea Mitchell.
Along with Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Pam Geller, Robert Spencer, Allen West, Louie Gohmert and Ann Coulter.
To name but a few.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)They deserve it, but I'm not sure the Taliban does.
Berlin Expat
(949 posts)the Taliban responding to a proposal to send the Rush Limbaugh, etc., by saying, "Rush Limbaugh? Ann Coulter? Allen West?! Those people belong in a mental institution. Forget it. You think we're crazy or something? To hell with that....you can keep 'em."
jehop61
(1,735 posts)you show your humor.....but really, it isn't funny to give praise and comfort to a group that has killed thousands of American citizens. Your joke fell flat with me.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Have you ever served in the armed forces?
denbot
(9,898 posts)Praise and comfort? Really?
jehop61
(1,735 posts)but no I didn't serve, but my father, husband, son and grandson have served, so I am proud of them all. Still can't understand your question!
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Yeah they deserve no praise.
kairos12
(12,843 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)alsame
(7,784 posts)her. Criticizing the WH is typical for her, but it's also totally disrespectful of the parents, as if they were being used as props.
spooky3
(34,406 posts)I find it amazing that a legitimate journalist would feel so comfortable criticizing what surely were complex negotiations about which they have so little info--especially when it brought home a military member.
alsame
(7,784 posts)reporters said the timing of this release was 'questionable' and suggested it was done to distract from Shinseki's resignation. As if something like this could be arranged in a matter of hours.
Either these people are stupid or they think their viewers are. Probably a little of both.
spooky3
(34,406 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)a pow coming home now. It messes with their agenda big time. Bet they never reported on the republicons in Congress voting against the Vets in Feb.
Pennie109
(128 posts)She's nothing but a hack, barely able to contain her distaste for the president.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Take the sting out of that, Ms. Mitchell!
(PS: The Taliban wouldn't have him!)
Cha
(296,848 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)I would have been fine with that deal.
alp227
(32,006 posts)The recently released batch of LBJ tapes (from the last eight months of 1968) provide much more detail about the political effects of Nixons operation. After Johnson privately deemed Nixons actions as treasonous, an extraordinary call occurred between Johnson and Nixon, in which Nixon did enough to satisfy the Presidents concerns to prevent Johnson from going public about the Chennault actions.
alsame
(7,784 posts)the Reagan/Bush team with the Iran hostages. The GOP has been doing things like this for political gain throughout my life, this would have been no different.
Cha
(296,848 posts)and his Team.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Congress should have set up some means through which prisoner releases could be quickly done. But we have a no-do, nothing-doing Congress.
A weak executive requires a strong Congress. We have a strong executive and a weak Congress. That does not meet our constitutional goals and standards. But Republicans are unwilling to govern cooperatively or responsibly, so what can Obama do in an instance like this?
I hope the right thing was done. The released prisoners sounded like a dangerous bunch. But I can think of ways it could be done safely.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)and someone wanted to take them,
then why were they still there in the first place?
And if they were classified as so terribly dangerous that they could not be released/returned, how can one soldier's safety--among all those who have died already--be worth the danger?
Either way, negotiating away Guantanamo detainees like this doesn't seem to make sense.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)always one. geez
spooky3
(34,406 posts)Several prisoners may be innocent and that it has been a diplomatic nightmare to try to get another country to handle the trials etc. so it is not at all clear that what you are saying is true.
denbot
(9,898 posts)Are you fucking kidding!
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)They can't be held forever, because the war is ending (and only a residual force will be left). There's no justification for continuing to detain them, once we're mostly out of that country and regular combat operations cease. We might as well get our soldier back alive, rather than...nothing.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)They were POWs just like any war's POWs.
Rules of war dictate that POWs be sent home once hostilities have ceased.
Everything else that is said is political theater.
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)If they are neither "innocent" nor sufficiently obviously and provably guilty of some specific act against the U.S., maybe getting something for them is one of the better possible outcomes.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)None of those 5 crossed an Ocean to invade a country
POWs are POWs and they must be released at the end of hostilities. It is not complicated.
EDIT - Unless they committed war-crimes. Then they should receive and fair and speedy trial.
thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)from
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/02/bowe-bergdahl-trade-afghanistan-reax_n_5429768.html
All five prisoners were classed as "high-risk" and "likely to pose a threat" by the Pentagon
So... we send soldiers off to possibly die to capture people like these, and then return five of them to save one soldier. Of course I'm happy for the returning soldier and his family, but the whole thing seems a little off to me. (Though they tell us that the returned prisoners must stay in Qatar for a year.)
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)...then someone who travels to the other side of the planet to invade a country is high risk too.
The US is not actively fighting the Taliban. The Afghans have suffered far worse than the Americans. It is time to let it go.
Sancho
(9,067 posts)Bergdahl was the first topic, and the GOP line has had a constant stream of crazies complaining about Obama "breaking the law" and "he hates the troops".
Typical...
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)....would be to beat the living s*** out of Ralph Peters.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)so called "strategic analyst". O'shitty ..........? SOS. Welcome home Pvt. Fuck these clowns.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)They don't have a leg to stand on.
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)We bashed the h*ll out of GWB and his signing statements, so I don't think it behooves us to use the same line of reasoning.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Republicans are crying, "Wolf." Personnaly, I am sick of September Surprizes. Obama did not allow them advance visits and statements this time.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Pakistani terrorists hijacked an Indian Airlines plane (IC814) to Kandahar. (Which was a rehearsal for 9/11 by the way with the same MO of slashing throats of passengers etc.) and demanded release of five Pakistani terrorists in Indian jails.
We cannot get rid of this cancer unless we put a stop to Pakistan sponsored terrorist operations.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)The NDAA has placed near-impossible restrictions, amounting to an effective prohibition, on the use of military funds to transfer detainees. The only possible Executive exception, or Waiver, is where it is in the United States national interest to enact a transfer.
I'd say getting an American home is in hte national interest NDAA was designed to hamstring the releases by the President from Guantanamo Bay.
spooky3
(34,406 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Really, fuck them.
Hooray for bringing Sgt. Bergdahl home!
bemildred
(90,061 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Hagel and Obama both knew that. They both served in the Senate, they know what sort of treacherous assholes they're dealing with. And it was still a dangerous effort--the exchange could have been an ambush or Bergdahl could have been strapped with explosives. Operational security was critical--you want to let McCain in on it? Inhofe? LOLOLOL.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)He knows just what it is to be a POW.
No, it would have been some chickenhawk who talked.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The American media is full of corrupt whores.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)For example, I haven't heard a peep about this from any of the right-wingers that pound my in-basket daily.
Almost no Americans have a strong desire to keep Gitmo open. The only issues was that the GOP terrorized the stupidest people in their ranks to get all worked up about trying them as criminals and sending them to American prisons.
And regardless of the circumstances of this soldier's original capture, it is always a good thing (politically) to bring an American soldier home.
So go right ahead, GOP, and try to make a big deal about this. Most thinking people know this is one they can't touch. Obama knows that too, and is smartly raising the ante on the GOP, taking advantage of al;l the hatred and stupidity that exists in the modern GOP
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,781 posts)While I haven't seen this from any serious mainstream journalists, I've seen many Facebook posts on pages line "NBC News" in which nutters are pushing the meme that Bergdahl wasn't a captured POW, but rather a deserter who fell into the hands of the Taliban. In this scenario, we shouldn't have traded anyone (their reasoning, not mine).
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)But, that said, even confused goofy soldiers should come home. 5 years as prisoner is plenty of punishment for his mistakes. He is probably very emotionally damaged now, and will need a lot of support--I think that added to the urgency.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I can't say who or the connection, but I know the person well.
Personally I haven't followed the story very closely so my knowledge of it is very limited.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)The responsibility to make sure all of our men and women in uniform return from battle, especially those taken prisoner and held during war, is deeply personal to me as someone who has worn the uniform of my country and as someone who was deeply involved in those efforts with respect to the unfinished business of the war in which I fought. Our nation has a sober and solemn duty to ensure that every single American who signs up to serve our country comes home. The cost of years of captivity to Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl and his family is immeasurable. Today, we are heartened that Sergeant Bergdahl will soon be reunited with his family and friends, from whom he has been apart for far too long.
I extend my personal gratitude to the Government of Qatar and especially to the Amir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani who played such an instrumental role in returning Sergeant Bergdahl home. We work every day with Qatar on a range of critical foreign policy priorities. This effort one that was personally so close to our hearts here exemplifies how vital our partnership with Qatar is and will remain.
I spoke today with Afghan President Karzai to brief him on this development and to discuss President Obamas announcement this week about our efforts there. As we look to the future in Afghanistan, the United States will continue to support steps that improve the climate for conversations between Afghans about how to end the bloodshed in their country through an Afghan-led reconciliation process. As weve said, we look forward to working with the next President of Afghanistan and to standing side-by-side with the Afghan Government and the Afghan people as they build a secure, stable, sovereign, and unified country.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2014/05/227013.htm
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The reason I call it interesting is parts of the last paragraph. Some may remember that Kharzi and some more moderate elements of the Taliban were to have meetings in Qatar except Kharzi backed out a year ago - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/20/afghanistan-talks-taliban-qatar-cancelled
The last paragraph suggests that with a new President, they might be back on.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)the Republican reaction. If Sgt Bergdahl had been killed, they would have blamed Obama for that. They want it both ways. All of them are missing something vital that makes a decent human being.
Thank you, President Obama, for this soldier's life.
usafvet65
(46 posts)Well said!
alp227
(32,006 posts)Or...Bergdahlzi.
Bryce Butler
(338 posts)He tried to go through Congress the first time, only to have Republicans block it:
http://tomhayden.com/home/republicans-block-release-of-us-soldier-held-by-taliban.html
Kber
(5,043 posts)And I won't get fooled again.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)An American is home safe. Is that not enough?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...ain't that right John!
- Only an insensitive prick would complain about bringing a sick and dying POW back home.
K&R
truthisfreedom
(23,140 posts)So be it.