UPDATED: White House: ‘No evidence’ Bergdahl fraternized with Taliban
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Source: TPM
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Fox News: 'Secret Documents' Claim Bergdahl Became A 'Warrior' For Islam
TOM KLUDT JUNE 5, 2014, 5:38 PM EDT
Fox News reported Thursday on what it described as "secret documents" showing Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl converted to Islam and even declared himself a "warrior" for the religion during his five years of captivity.
Citing "secret documents prepared on the basis of a purported eyewitness account," Fox's James Rosen wrote that Bergdahl had a roller-coaster experience after he was captured in 2009.
There were times, according to Rosen, when Bergdahl was "treated very much like a hostage," and other times the soldier bonded with his captors and was even allowed to carry a gun.
According to the report, Bergdahl managed to escape for five days at one point and. After he was re-captured, he was reportedly locked in a cage "like an animal."
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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-news-bergdahl-converted-to-islam
This is from a liberal web site (TPM) reporting what FOX is doing. I think there is a difference, I'm not posting an article from FOX. Hopefully most DU'ers see the difference.
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UPDATE
White House: No evidence Bergdahl fraternized with Taliban
By Justin Sink - 06/05/14 09:10 PM EDT
A senior White House aide said Thursday he had seen no evidence to confirm a report that rescued Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl converted to Islam, fraternized with the Taliban, and declared jihad during nearly five years of captivity.
We have seen no evidence of that, deputy national security adviser Tony Blinken told CNN when asked about a Fox News report about Bergdahls conduct while imprisoned by the Taliban.
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The idea that we are trying Sergeant Bergdahl in the court of public opinion in abstentia, without giving him an opportunity to give his story and to tell us what happened, frankly, I find repugnant, Blinken said. We don't know what happened. We are determined to get to the bottom of it. The military will investigate appropriately. Let's get the facts before we rush to judgment.
The Fox News report is based on dispatches written by a Pentagon subcontractor staffed by former intelligence officials hired to prepare reports on terrorist activities. The head of the firm told the network he provided intelligence briefs to the director of intelligence at the U.S. Central Command.
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Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/208440-white-house-no-evidence-bergdahl-fraternized-with-taliban#ixzz33ozmNQoL
randys1
(16,286 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Republicans are all over the place on this one. Ha!
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)gay....whudathunkit? They're just pulling this crap out of their arses.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)So, he a warrior for Islam and yet, tried to escape? He bonded with his captors and yet they treated him like an animal?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)from an article alleging the Sgt and his family are Evangelical Christians. I'll look to see if I can locate it.
On edit:
I was wrong, I think. From the OP I mentioned above:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025053628
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)according to Hastings Rolling Stone article.
Which has now become THE definitive source. Everytime I read it, I see something I missed.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)the results are a little confusing. Try it!
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Their opposite on the same scale are the Arminian believers who are also considered evangelicals for the most part but not necessarily fundamentalists... or they could be. I could explain the difference but I don't think anyone would care in this instance.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)those are scary folks. Big time promoters of the Christian version of Sharia Law.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)of hate and self righteousness along with homemade recipes for righteous indignation.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Interesting but, confusing and more involved than I want to devote time to learning about. Does that make me a bad person?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Cha
(296,821 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,421 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)To have sex with young boys.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Timez Squarez
(262 posts)It's a well-known fact. And was arrested for possessing Viagra that wasn't his coming in from a well-known pedophile sex haven in the Dominican Republic.
dballance
(5,756 posts)Despite it being on FAUX I went over there and read this. The source is a person who lied congress. His some of info, especially the becoming one of them part is third hand.
Oh, yep, his lying was also about the Iran/Contra scandal. Bush 1 pardoned him.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)O.N. is right at home with that RW propaganda machine.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Iran-Contra, Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress, and there are unproven allegations linking him to the Niger forgeries and even Benghazi. Check out this thread -- both bigtree's OP and what I added further down.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025054646
I think we could all use to know a lot more about exactly what Clarridge has been up to -- and who are the "private donors" behind his Eclipse Group. I'm starting to think that what's really driving this latest fake scandal is not so much GOP hysteria as an attempt by the military-industrial complex to sabotage any chance of us actually getting out of Afghanistan.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)How many qualifiers do they need?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)with someone in touch with the Taliban?
quakerboy
(13,916 posts)Fox claims to have ties to the Taliban, deep enough that they could keep close track of a US POW for years, without giving their Taliban ties away to the US military or offering them an opportunity to try and rescue this US soldier they were keeping an eye on...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)They got it from:
" These real-time dispatches were generated by the Eclipse Group, a shadowy private firm of former intelligence officers and operatives that has subcontracted with the Defense Department and prominent corporations to deliver granular intelligence on terrorist activities and other security-related topics, often from challenging environments in far-flung corners of the globe."
See...far flung corners of the globe no less!
Timez Squarez
(262 posts)where the sun don't shine.
Is where they get their information.
(P.S., your gif drives me nuts!)
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Yoda likes it!
But I'll find a less kinetic one soon.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)ck4829
(35,038 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)has no one ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? You go along to get along.
creeksneakers2
(7,472 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)will turn out to be the script for the critically acclaimed SHO series, Homeland.
deurbano
(2,894 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)under who knows what duress. If they can prove he was clear-mindedly engaging in acts against America (that weren't a fake-out), they'd have more of a case. He looked drugged/confused in most photos and videos I've seen.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)...and being regurgitated here at DU?
A similar thread to this was locked earlier...
C'mon.
We can do better than this...
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)oh maybe under this pile, no, that's the Iraq WMD file, just give me a second, it was right here someplace....
defacto7
(13,485 posts)gimme a break fux news.
tom_kelly
(957 posts)Why does The Fox News get all the secret information? That's not fair
karynnj
(59,498 posts)when Bowe was with the Taliban.
Fox News admits to talking to the "terrorists"! After all, who other than the Taliban is with the Taliban.
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)They are allied with the Taliban but not the Taliban. Fox is slipping up on their lies.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)that there were multiple Talibans -- and beyond that the Haqqani network which even more something that could be defined as terrorists.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)like John McCain he probably did things (not real smart) that kept him alive. duh. nothing to see here just anti american crap from an Australian company
TomCADem
(17,382 posts)nt
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Follow the money. These people are propagandists for the Cheney cabal. Cheney, and Bush, laid bombs in the system as surely as any terrorist ever did. And they established a communications department in the form of Fox.
Initech
(100,036 posts)SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)but DOUBLE SECRET NINJA MYSTERY DOCUMENTS. That Fox got for $24 in magic beans.
They_Live
(3,224 posts)and you'll need X-Ray Specs and a Magic Decoder Ring to examine them.
kardonb
(777 posts)Fox "news" ? 'nuff said .
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)It's reporting on the FOX story.
fox news propaganda without corroboration.
There are other places you could have posted this let's not screw up LBN please.
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DonViejo
(60,536 posts)No. The TPM article fully complies with the LBN posting requirments:
Post the latest news from reputable mainstream news websites and blogs. Important news of national interest only. No analysis or opinion pieces. No duplicates. News stories must have been published within the last 12 hours. Use the published title of the story as the title of the discussion thread.
Nonsense. A liberal web site reporting what a Republican news outlet is peddling is not "screwing up LBN." Now that the White House has officially repudiated FOX for their story, the importance as national news is increased. Further meeting posting requirements.
eShirl
(18,479 posts)EmilyAnne
(2,769 posts)So loud that my four year old daughter just asked me "what's so funny?"
I showed her the roll of toilet paper and she laughed because she's at the age where anything related to the potty is funny.
So two jokes in one, really.
agentS
(1,325 posts)HIT TV SHOW HOMELAND (SEASON 1) FROM SHOWTIME!
olddad56
(5,732 posts)Justice
(7,185 posts)SunSeeker
(51,511 posts)Fox spewing propaganda is not news. It's fine to discuss the silliness of the latest Fox bullshit story. Talking Points Memo is presenting it for its ridiculousness, not as a legit news story. You should not legitimize it by posting it in LBN. Discussion of it should be in GD or Politics.
The TPM article fully meets the posting requirements of LBN. TPM is a reliable liberal blog reporting the latest craziness of the Republican propaganda voice.
Official White House repudiation of the FOX story heightens the importance of the story.
SunSeeker
(51,511 posts)The Fox headline is propaganda, and TPM mentioning does not make it news.
Seriously, Fox does not need any more help spreading its vile propaganda.
CBHagman
(16,981 posts)I saw the footage of Bill O'Reilly ranting about Mr. Bergdahl's beard. Chris Hayes had a nice riff on that one (It's the same beard we've seen on hundreds of men, including celebs).
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)even longer, father of Army Sgt. Matt Maupin captured in Iraq in 2004, later killed.
Perhaps it's how fathers grieve.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)After she was kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation Army.and held by them long enough she took part in a bank robbery they did. If true it's not the first time something like this has happened - it's called the Stockholm syndrome.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)the entire country learned about Stockholm Syndrome from Patty Hearst and her experiences with the SLA (Symbionese Liberation Army)
MFM008
(19,803 posts)because we always believe everything fox news tells us and we believe all the polls that come out...........
The Wizard
(12,535 posts)believe their oracle of information has access to secret documents.
MADem
(135,425 posts)At least one of the sources has been outed within the journalism community, and that would be the one that talked to the NYT and lied out his ass.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)are going to be all over this one. Guaranteed.
They will demonize that poor man. And all just to demonize Obama.
It's hard to stomach.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The standard misinformation campaign.
SunSeeker
(51,511 posts)woodsprite
(11,904 posts)"a Pentagon subcontractor staffed by former intelligence officials hired to prepare reports on terrorist activities. The head of the firm told the network he provided intelligence briefs to the director of intelligence at the U.S. Central Command. " he's probably a deep plant left over from Cheney.
apnu
(8,749 posts)From the Fox News article, paragraph 4 and 5:
"...These real-time dispatches were generated by the Eclipse Group, a shadowy private firm of former intelligence officers and operatives that has subcontracted with the Defense Department and prominent corporations to deliver granular intelligence on terrorist activities and other security-related topics, often from challenging environments in far-flung corners of the globe.
The group is run by Duane R. ("Dewey" Clarridge, a former senior operations officer for the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1980s best known for having been indicted for lying to Congress about his role in the tangled set of events that became known as the Iran-Contra scandal. He was pardoned by the first President Bush in December 1992 while on trial."
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)ethical journalists in the business.
underpants
(182,603 posts)Citing "secret documents prepared on the basis of a purported eyewitness account," Fox's James Rosen wrote that Bergdahl had a roller-coaster experience after he was captured in 2009.
apnu
(8,749 posts)"Secret" documents my ass.
From the Fox News article
... These real-time dispatches were generated by the Eclipse Group, a shadowy private firm of former intelligence officers and operatives that has subcontracted with the Defense Department and prominent corporations to deliver granular intelligence on terrorist activities and other security-related topics, often from challenging environments in far-flung corners of the globe.
The group is run by Duane R. ("Dewey" Clarridge, a former senior operations officer for the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1980s best known for having been indicted for lying to Congress about his role in the tangled set of events that became known as the Iran-Contra scandal. He was pardoned by the first President Bush in December 1992 while on trial.
From part of paragraph 4 and all of paragraph 5.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)That was breaking news from Ollie North. Lol Trash news at its best!