Vodafone reveals existence of secret wires that allow state surveillance
Source: Guardian
Vodafone, one of the world's largest mobile phone groups, has revealed the existence of secret wires that allow government agencies to listen to all conversations on its networks, saying they are widely used in some of the 29 countries in which it operates in Europe and beyond.
The company has broken its silence on government surveillance in order to push back against the increasingly widespread use of phone and broadband networks to spy on citizens, and will publish its first Law Enforcement Disclosure Report on Friday . At 40,000 words, it is the most comprehensive survey yet of how governments monitor the conversations and whereabouts of their people.
The company said wires had been connected directly to its network and those of other telecoms groups, allowing agencies to listen to or record live conversations and, in certain cases, track the whereabouts of a customer. Privacy campaigners said the revelations were a "nightmare scenario" that confirmed their worst fears on the extent of snooping.
In Albania, Egypt, Hungary, India, Malta, Qatar, Romania, South Africa and Turkey, it is unlawful to disclose any information related to wiretapping or interception of the content of phone calls and messages including whether such capabilities exist.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/06/vodafone-reveals-secret-wires-allowing-state-surveillance
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Is that the phone companies are paid millions of dollars for this access. In most cases the intercepts are done in cooperation between network engineers and government agents.
erronis
(15,181 posts)Many millions of $s/Euros/Pounds/Shekels are trading hands.
While I understand that "black" budgets don't allow the taxpayers that fund these payments to even know about them, I wonder how the recipients (companies, individuals) are recording them in order to pay proper taxes.
How many of these payments are made in hard cash that isn't recorded anywhere? Newly minted? Direct deposits to an off-shore account?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)What's most amazing about all this is the relative lack of IQ that it takes to get this far. Once you've got everyone scared of you, you really don't have to do much but growl every once and a while.
- Of course the occasional convenient ''accident'' helps too.
K&R
The result is a continuous culture lag where social progress by way of incorporating new socially-helpful scientific advancements is constantly inhibited. It is like walking through a brick wall as the established power orthodoxies continue to perpetuate themselves for their own interests and comforts.
The profit mechanism creates established orders which constitute the survival and wealth for a few groups of people. The fact is that no matter how socially beneficial new advents may be, they will be viewed in hostility if they threaten an established financially-driven institution. Meaning social progress can be a threat to the establishment. So to put this into a sentence: "Abundance, sustainability and efficiency are the enemies of profit."
Progressive advancement in science and technology which can solve problems of inefficiency and scarcity once and for all, are in effect making the prior establishment's servicing of those issues obsolete. Therefore in a monetary system corporations aren't just in competition with each other, they're in competition with progress itself. That is why social-change is so difficult within a monetary system. In other words, the established monetary system refuses to allow free-flowing change.
We have to understand that government as we know it today, is not in place for the well being of the public, but rather for the perpetuation of their establishment and their power. Just like every other institution within a monetary system. Government is a monetary invention for the sake of economic and social control and its methods are based upon self-preservation, first and foremost. All a government can really do is to create laws to compensate for an inherent lack of integrity within the social order.
In society today the public is essentially kept distracted and uninformed. This is the way that governments maintain control. If you review history, power is maintained through ignorance.
~Peter Joseph
postulater
(5,075 posts)I think I need to read more of what he wrote.
Thanks.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)http://thevenusproject.com/
From the Latin gubernare and the Greek kubernan, meaning 'to control' and from the Latin mente, meaning 'mind'
Government = The control of the mind
reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)... does not come from the Latin word for "mind". It is a common English suffix which comes from the Latin suffix "mentum". It simply indicates the process of doing something or the end result of what is done.
Government implies control or management, of course, but the Greek word kubernan has the sense of steering or piloting a ship.
erronis
(15,181 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)There are three pdf's here:
http://www.vodafone.com/content/sustainabilityreport/2014/index/operating_responsibly/privacy_and_security/law_enforcement.html
Found that link in this article:
Vodafone puts out wide-ranging transparency report, hinting at secret surveillance programs
By David Meyer
21 mins ago
The British carrier group Vodafone has issued its first Law Enforcement Disclosure Report, which it will update on an annual basis. This is the most comprehensive transparency report yet, covering 29 countries where a Vodafone-controlled operator received a demand for assistance from law enforcement agencies or government authorities during the last year.
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Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)And hardly ever use my land line. If I don't see a name I recognize on my caller ID, I let it ring four times and it hangs up on the caller.
If everyone would quit paying for phone service and internet service for about six months, I believe even the corporations would lobby against all this snooping.
It makes me mad, when I think that my tax dollars are being spent to sneak around and spy on me. That's why I start off every day by mooning my PC.(it's not a pretty sight!) I'll bet the NSA and not just your hair dresser, knows whether you're a natural blonde or not.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)if the world situation is as F****d up as it is with all surveillance by government,
what does it all really mean and how can it be stopped? And when it is all stopped, if ever, then what?
There may be a number of principled employees out there but they will soon lose their jobs and other job hungry folks will take their places and government practices will only tighten more. Then we are really screwed. Problem is, we don't know where and when all this is taking place. So, starting a conversation about all of this may just be opening a can of worms. Time will tell.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Industry sources say that in some cases, the direct-access wire, or pipe, is essentially equipment in a locked room in a network's central data centre or in one of its local exchanges or "switches".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/07/AR2007110700006.html
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Sounds very similar.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)But I still feel safest using Vigodafone.
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navarth
(5,927 posts)NOT
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)erronis
(15,181 posts)Maybe a paint a big HUBRIS around the rest of the capsule?
We need more Snowdens. We need more real patriots, not politicians and corporatists that wear flag lapels and feed at the taxpayer trough without giving anything of value.