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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:47 PM Jun 2014

Audit: Over 57,000 awaiting initial VA visits

Source: AP-EXCITE

By MATTHEW DALY

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Veterans Affairs Department says more than 57,000 patients are still waiting for initial medical appointments at VA hospitals and clinics 90 days or more after requesting them. An additional 64,000 who enrolled in the VA health care system over the past 10 years have never had appointments.

The department says an audit of 731 VA hospitals and large outpatient clinics found that the agency's complicated appointment process created confusion among scheduling clerks and supervisors. The audit says a 14-day goal for seeing first-time patients was unattainable given the growing demand among veterans for health care and poor planning. The VA has since abandoned that goal.

The audit released Monday says 13 percent of VA schedulers reported supervisors telling them to falsify appointment dates to make waiting times appear shorter.

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20140609/us-veterans-health-care-17bed816c5.html

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Audit: Over 57,000 awaiting initial VA visits (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2014 OP
The solution seems simple, to me: If unable to be seen at a VA facility, TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #1
A perfect storm rickford66 Jun 2014 #2
And the Desert Storm, Bosnia and Northern Africa vets from the 90s are hitting middle age. politicat Jun 2014 #4
A national embarrassment and a slap in the face to vets. Psephos Jun 2014 #3
Money rickford66 Jun 2014 #5

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. The solution seems simple, to me: If unable to be seen at a VA facility,
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jun 2014

give them vouchers or reimburse to be seen at a private facility, and then if further ongoing care is needed, they get folded in to the VA system for it.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
2. A perfect storm
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:42 PM
Jun 2014

The last of the WWII and Korean War vets, Vietnam vets retiring and the Gulf Wars vets who survived normally fatal wounds are trying to get care. I went to our local Vet center and found guys who have Medicare but want to go the the VA for non-military related problems. That's OK but they should wait. The counselor who I talked to said there was no advantage for non-military problems. Plus they wanted all my financial info etc. For those under 65 it's better than nothing.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
4. And the Desert Storm, Bosnia and Northern Africa vets from the 90s are hitting middle age.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jun 2014

In some cases, they're hitting the age where it gets hard to be hired after losing a stable job, so they're turning to VA as their last resort; in others, the damage they took is now becoming an issue (especially orthopedic soft tissue damage and hearing damage, with both worsen in middle age), and or a combination of both are hitting. That's around a million people, many of whom are not in line right now because they have other resources. In my experience, vets will wait as long as possible before going to VA because they understand that VA services should be triaged to those who need them most.

VA has needed regular budget increases for decades according to their own actuarial forecasts, but Congress had other "priorities."

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
3. A national embarrassment and a slap in the face to vets.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:22 PM
Jun 2014

These chronic failures of the VA system do not advance the argument for government-run healthcare.

Vets who don't receive treatment according to VA policy should be vouchered for care elsewhere. Fuck the politics. Treat the vets.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
5. Money
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 01:17 PM
Jun 2014

The same people who wouldn't appropriate the money for the VA will have to appropriate the money for vouchers ... and ... they will want to cut something else to pay for it. I think the 1% should kick in but that's not going anywhere.

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