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peoli

(3,111 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:53 PM Jun 2014

Coal Company CEO Threatens To Sue EPA For ‘Lying’ About Climate Change

Source: Think Progress

The owner of the largest independent coal producer in the U.S. is threatening to sue the Environmental Protection Agency over its new regulations on carbon emissions from existing coal plants, saying the agency has been lying about the existence of global warming, and that the earth is actually getting colder.

In an extended profile published last month, Murray Energy Corp. founder Robert Murray told WV Executive that the EPA’s claims that climate change exists violates the federal Data Quality Act, which requires agencies to rely on quality, objective information to inform its decisions.
“Under the act, they are obligated to tell the truth, and they are not telling the truth about global warming,” Murray reportedly said. “They are not telling hardly any truth about the science. The earth has actually cooled over the last 17 years, so under the Data Quality Act, they’ve actually been lying about so-called global warming.”

Murray added, “This lawsuit will force them to not just take data from the environmentalists and publish it, as they have been doing, but to review that data and make sure it’s accurate.”

Of course, the EPA does not just take data from environmentalists to inform its position on climate change. A comprehensive analysis of peer-reviewed research shows a 97 percent consensus among scientists that global warming is real and primarily driven by humans. And the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change, a massive global effort to compile and analyze climate research by scientists and experts around the world, found that there is a 95 percent likelihood that human activities drove 74 percent of the observed global warming since 1950.


Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/06/10/3447370/murray-coal-warming-is-fake/

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Coal Company CEO Threatens To Sue EPA For ‘Lying’ About Climate Change (Original Post) peoli Jun 2014 OP
They should let the idiot sue smallcat88 Jun 2014 #1
The moron intends to purchase the *judge* and all *juries* Amonester Jun 2014 #2
I wouldn't doubt it. defacto7 Jun 2014 #7
Agreed..how fantastic would it be for said lawsuit to become Volaris Jun 2014 #10
Niether Dr. Tyson or Bill Nye... SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #13
Another stupid fuck polluter. SoapBox Jun 2014 #3
Proceed, Mr. Murray. dballance Jun 2014 #4
You are right. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #8
It doesn't take a lot of skill confounding his ignorant horde. Breathtaking stupidity. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2014 #11
Yeah, that's right. Use your company's money to sue and lose when you could be making those coal 4lbs Jun 2014 #5
I've got a better idea Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #6
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #9
That is an outstanding suggestion. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #20
Great idea! Duppers Jun 2014 #23
The dude is a polyp on the colon of humanity. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #12
The Cliven Bundy of dirty fossil energy hatrack Jun 2014 #14
I think this is great news Bandit Jun 2014 #15
How is that denial thing working out for you, Mr. Murray? yellowcanine Jun 2014 #16
Murray is the man who forced his miners to attend the Mitt Romney, photo op (without pay) Sunlei Jun 2014 #17
Bob Murray goes out of his way to cause environmental damages and harm his workers. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #18
It is really sad in only a short 200 years the damages done to our lands and waters. Sunlei Jun 2014 #21
"Sue Baby Sue" KurtNYC Jun 2014 #19
Let me know how that works out for you, Mr. Murray. reflection Jun 2014 #22

smallcat88

(426 posts)
1. They should let the idiot sue
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jun 2014

then wipe his ass in court. Another moron who knows nothing about science. Could probably get Neil deGrasse Tyson and/or Bill Nye to testify for the EPA.

Volaris

(10,260 posts)
10. Agreed..how fantastic would it be for said lawsuit to become
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:09 AM
Jun 2014

the Dover Intelligent Design case of Global Climate Change lol. (for the unawares, link is below)...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/intelligent-design-trial.html

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
13. Niether Dr. Tyson or Bill Nye...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:03 AM
Jun 2014

Are qualified to testify for the EPA on the existence of global warming.

Try perhaps Dr. Michael E. Mann who has battled the IDIOTS on the right for decades & Dr. Richard Alley who has the same gift as Dr. Tyson of teaching the public science.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
4. Proceed, Mr. Murray.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:43 AM
Jun 2014

What an ass. He damned well knows that global climate change is an issue that is real. He's just bloviating to buy himself more time to continue to get rich while he pollutes the world for our kids and grand-kids. Just as the Big Tobacco knew their product was lethal but did their best to buy time until it ran out. Cherry-picking 17 years of data is disgusting stupidity like saying, "Well, it's cold today, so there mustn't be global warming."

4lbs

(6,756 posts)
5. Yeah, that's right. Use your company's money to sue and lose when you could be making those coal
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:51 AM
Jun 2014

mines safer for the workers.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
6. I've got a better idea
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:53 AM
Jun 2014

We sue Robert Murray for lying about climate change. And the Koch brothers. And Rex Tillerson.

If Mr. Murray doesn't like that, then we put him on trial for manslaughter. How many miners has he killed with his criminal negligence?

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
20. That is an outstanding suggestion.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jun 2014

Are there any attorneys out there that would take this on? This would do a lot of good in exposing him for what he is. His profits are at the expense of the health of millions of American citizens, not least the very miners he puts at risk everyday. All the actual men I have met who really work in the mines have been good people, they take pride in doing a dangerous job and bringing home a paycheck. I want these men to live long and healthy lives working at jobs that will not ruin their health through black lung and all the other ills associated with mining. The environmental movement should work on how to get these people good jobs that will not kill them, so they see Bob Murray for the monster that he is.

Great post. Thanks!

SunSeeker

(51,367 posts)
12. The dude is a polyp on the colon of humanity.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:56 AM
Jun 2014

Yes. Sue. Then we can have a published decision stating, in so many words, that you are evil and stupid.

hatrack

(59,439 posts)
14. The Cliven Bundy of dirty fossil energy
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:54 AM
Jun 2014

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Oh, the humanity, Poor, poor, little rich man.

He's not a sleazy operator who kills his workers through greed, arrogance and slipshod safety practices. He's a martyr.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
15. I think this is great news
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:54 AM
Jun 2014

Have a National Trial and present the evidence and let the courts decide. It will cut the feet out from under the Climate Denialists and maybe we can put an end to their crap once and for all.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. Murray is the man who forced his miners to attend the Mitt Romney, photo op (without pay)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:50 AM
Jun 2014
Sure, the earth cools under Murray's clouds of horrible sulfur-coal.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
18. Bob Murray goes out of his way to cause environmental damages and harm his workers.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jun 2014

It is so sad that there are so few job opportunities where his mines are located that people are forced to work for him. He is on a mission to destroy Captina Creek in Ohio, which has the highest Index of Biotic Integrity of any watershed in Ohio which basically means it is has the highest water quality in Ohio. Bob Murray's mines have had spills into this watershed and he is trying to force the OhioEPA into approving completely improper plans that would destroy the quality of this stream. More than one OhioEPA employee have lost their jobs over this. John Kasich keeps firing people at the behest of Bob Murray, but the news media keeps it quiet.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. It is really sad in only a short 200 years the damages done to our lands and waters.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:34 AM
Jun 2014

Murray started his coal life as a 16 year old miner, he had serious injury from mining accidents.

I guess he never, ever thought past the 'cheaper costs the better'- 'profits'.

Most of the problem is the weak Corp. controlled,EPA, the fines should be in the millions of dollars. Jail time for the owner. There needs to be a cap on violations where they lose the entire business.

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