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central scrutinizer

(11,637 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:56 PM Jun 2014

Oregon high school shooting: Gunman identified as freshman Jared Michael Padgett

Source: Portland Oregonian

The shooter used an AR-15 type rifle in the attack and carried, but did not use, a semi-automatic handgun. Investigators also recovered nine loaded magazines with the capability of holding several hundred rounds.

The shooter also had a large knife. He was wearing a non-ballistic vest used for carrying ammunition and other items. He also was wearing a multi-sport helmet with a camouflage design.

The shooter obtained the weapons from his family home. The weapons had been secured, but he defeated the security measures.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_high_school_shooting_gu.html#incart_maj-story-1



The excerpt is from the transcript of the press briefing
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Oregon high school shooting: Gunman identified as freshman Jared Michael Padgett (Original Post) central scrutinizer Jun 2014 OP
First responders got there very quickly exboyfil Jun 2014 #1
I saw a report that said a "School Resource Officer" was the first responder DonP Jun 2014 #5
That's a cop here, in Seattle too. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #15
there were 2 armed on-campus police officers rollin74 Jun 2014 #6
What is it about assault rifles? SansACause Jun 2014 #2
The military look IronLionZion Jun 2014 #7
Because they can spray bullets so fast. Archae Jun 2014 #8
No faster than any other semi-auto rifle. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #13
Thank you. Semi-auto is still semi auto, although I suspect that it's not just sight radius, but genwah Jun 2014 #26
The rifling (groves) makes the bullet spin like a football. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #29
Terrorists in the middle east and Africa prefer the AK-47, Terrorists here prefer the AR-15. InfoWingerWatch Jun 2014 #10
Availability. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #16
Not just what's common and easily acquired; napalm is easily made Styrofoam and gasoline/kerosene, genwah Jun 2014 #27
It would seem that mass casualties was not his goal based on his tactics. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #30
They are shorter and easier to maneuver in tight quarters. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2014 #14
As mentioned, they are shorter and thus easier to manuver with. Kaleva Jun 2014 #23
Playing war games. Send such guys to the military to learn this is not a war zone, despite Infowars. freshwest Jun 2014 #3
Thanks for that, freshwest! countryjake Jun 2014 #11
Pass it around, we need the encouragement. It is a good read I'd've never seen, too. freshwest Jun 2014 #18
Indoctrinated by right wing hate. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #4
Same thing with the Right Wing terrorist that slaughtered 3 Canadian Mounties and wounded 2 others InfoWingerWatch Jun 2014 #9
So the kid was a TeaPartyTotTerrorist blm Jun 2014 #17
Not to be insensitive... this is very sad, SalviaBlue Jun 2014 #12
Thats what I said earlier... WTF? nt winstars Jun 2014 #19
Weird coincidence - like all of the murderers with a middle name of Wayne central scrutinizer Jun 2014 #20
Hey, the Subway Sandwich Jared hasn't shot anyone, yet, and Ronald McDonald probably killed more genwah Jun 2014 #24
Maybe Jareds jewelers will change their name? cascadiance Jun 2014 #31
Another overly fixated gun enthusiast............ Historic NY Jun 2014 #21
An AR-15 - as raffled off by the county Republicans in honour of MLK and Lincoln muriel_volestrangler Jun 2014 #22
Okay, wait...the Multnomah Country Republicans are having a drawing for two people who were SHOT genwah Jun 2014 #25
I think there is too much meth up there. Historic NY Jun 2014 #28

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. First responders got there very quickly
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:02 PM
Jun 2014

Would like to get more information on that. Could be something to be learned from it.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
5. I saw a report that said a "School Resource Officer" was the first responder
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jun 2014

Don't know about there, but in Chicago that usually means a cop, assigned to a specific school and on site.

SansACause

(520 posts)
2. What is it about assault rifles?
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jun 2014

I realize they have high-capacity magazines, but is there another reason that murderers love these things so much?

Archae

(46,301 posts)
8. Because they can spray bullets so fast.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:44 PM
Jun 2014

It's that simple.

And they are much more accurate than a Glock.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
13. No faster than any other semi-auto rifle.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jun 2014

For humans, all rifles are more accurate than all handguns due to the longer sight radius.

genwah

(574 posts)
26. Thank you. Semi-auto is still semi auto, although I suspect that it's not just sight radius, but
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jun 2014

barrel length that matters. I'm not very knowledgeable about such things, but isn't that why we "rifle" even pistol barrels?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
29. The rifling (groves) makes the bullet spin like a football.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jun 2014

It greatly improves the accuracy. The 4-inch barrels on handguns do it just fine.

The length of the barrel on rifles allows for the full burn of the gun powder to maximize the speed of the bullet for the most range possible.

 

InfoWingerWatch

(78 posts)
10. Terrorists in the middle east and Africa prefer the AK-47, Terrorists here prefer the AR-15.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jun 2014

Not sure why though.

genwah

(574 posts)
27. Not just what's common and easily acquired; napalm is easily made Styrofoam and gasoline/kerosene,
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:37 PM
Jun 2014

heck, you can take a rubber hose from your gas stove into a bottle of Styrofoam and make a decent Molotov cocktail. A high school chemistry class and a trip to the drug store can make you a serious danger to society. This kid could have started a fire at every exit of his school, and killed everyone inside. But "easily acquired" means guns here in the US, and you don't even have to open a book.

I don't know if I'm more upset at how guns are everywhere or that a high school freshman with a kill/death wish didn't know how to do his homework. It's easier for the crazies to get a gun and shoot than it is to firebomb a public building. I can't believe I just typed that.

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
23. As mentioned, they are shorter and thus easier to manuver with.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jun 2014

The military appearance attracts many and they able to accept high capacity magazines.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. Playing war games. Send such guys to the military to learn this is not a war zone, despite Infowars.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:12 PM
Jun 2014

And that his actions are the worst form of cowardice. See story of a veteran coming home because of these shootings:

That's It. I Am Coming Home. The NRA has made mass killings normal in this country. I'm coming home from years of serving my country overseas to help stop it.

This is too much. We have Tea Party political activists shooting cops from behind, in the head, then covering their dead bodies with the Tea Party “Gadsden” flag and shouting, “The Revolution begins now!”

No. I am coming home. I need to be there and be part of the solution. Moms Demand Action is getting some traction, but they can use the lean-in of a few U.S. Army Airborne Infantry Rangers. I am only sorry that I did not stand up to this threat to our nation before. I am sorry. I was busy.

I have been overseas in Afghanistan and in NATO nations for half a decade while the insanity of the National Rifle Association expanded and exploded, and the NRA became, essentially, the tool of death in the United States. They made mass killings normal...


A whole lot more at the link that is even stronger and well worth reading, IMO:

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home#comments

to Liberal Loner:

LTC Bateman tired of NRA and senseless shootings


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1262&pid=6738

Although I believe that we'd be better served by renewed commitment to public service to rebuild infrastructure and give those not yet brainwashed by the Teaterrorist, etc., some insight into positive solutions instead of destructive ones.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
11. Thanks for that, freshwest!
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jun 2014

I wouldn't even have seen it if you wouldn't have put it up here. Thanks to Liberal Loner, too.

The comments on Lt. Col. Bateman's post are very interesting. Jeesh, what a read!

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
4. Indoctrinated by right wing hate.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jun 2014
Among his innocuous likes on Facebook, such as Old Spice and Best Buy, Padgett also liked Facebook pages for 2 tactical knife companies, a number of gun manufacturers, body armor companies, as well as a number of political pages such as, “Conservative American Military Veterans Against Barack Obama,” and, “We WILL NOT Be Disarmed.”


SalviaBlue

(2,914 posts)
12. Not to be insensitive... this is very sad,
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:16 PM
Jun 2014

but what's with all the Jareds?

Jared Laughner - Gabby
Jared Miller - LV Cops,

and now,

Jared Padgett

central scrutinizer

(11,637 posts)
20. Weird coincidence - like all of the murderers with a middle name of Wayne
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.newsoftheweird.com/wayne.html

the list goes on for over 100 names, most infamous probably John Wayne Gacy

genwah

(574 posts)
24. Hey, the Subway Sandwich Jared hasn't shot anyone, yet, and Ronald McDonald probably killed more
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jun 2014

people than Ronald Reagan. (Okay, Ronald McDonald has made as many really, really poor people, but killed? Not so much.)

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
31. Maybe Jareds jewelers will change their name?
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jun 2014

Yes, it is confusing what motivates that way...

And from the world of the Boomtown Rats song "I Don't Like Mondays" about another horrific shooting, perhaps here in Portland, Oregon it is more...

"I Don't like Tuesdays"

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_high_school_shooting_fa.html

News of the shooting Tuesday at Reynolds High School in Troutdale brought Paul Kemp back to the day his brother-in-law, Steve Forsyth, was shot at the Clackamas Town Center.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/clackamas-town-center-shooting_n_2283795.html

Police have identified Jacob Tyler Roberts as the gunman who fatally shot two people at a crowded Oregon mall Tuesday before killing himself minutes later.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
21. Another overly fixated gun enthusiast............
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jun 2014

"He also seemed most engaged when talking about guns, she said, adding that he would talk about hunting rabbits and could talk in detail about firearms.

"It was insane how much he knew," she said. "He would say all the types of guns and could name anything."

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_school_shooting_gunman.html

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
22. An AR-15 - as raffled off by the county Republicans in honour of MLK and Lincoln
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jun 2014

2 men shot to death.

Portland, OR January 13, 2014: Multnomah Country Republicans recognize the incredible time of year we are in. In successive months to start the year, we celebrate the legacy of two great Republicans who demonstrated leadership and courage that all of us still lean on today: Martin Luther King, Jr (ed: not a Republican - see below) and Abraham Lincoln. In celebrating these two men, and the denial of the rights they fought so hard against, the Multnomah County Republican Party announces that we have started our third raffle for an AR-15 rifle (or handgun of the winner’s choice). The drawing will be held at our Lincoln Day Dinner on February 15th, 2014. Tickets are once again $10 apiece, or 12 for $100, and there is a hard cap of 500 tickets in the raffle.

Multnomah County GOP Chairman Jeff Reynolds said, “We are here to reaffirm our strong defense of the Second Amendment and the right to personal protection. The Bill of Rights is inviolable, despite what the gun-grabbers in Salem might try.”

Reynolds went on to say, “We’ve recently caught wind that the Democrats in Salem, led once again by Ginny Burdick, will attempt to take away our personal right to bear arms. The Multnomah County Republican Party remains steadfast in its dedication to defeating such efforts.”

Multnomah County Republican Vice Chair Anne Marie Gurney echoed these sentiments, saying, “Those who would erode our 2nd Amendment rights in Salem fail to recognize that Oregonians, no matter their party registration, are opposed to their efforts. Voters will make this known in the upcoming legislative session, but more importantly, on November 4, 2014. One right you just don’t try to take away is the right of an Oregonian to own guns.”

The Lincoln Day Dinner, at which the drawing will be held, promises to be a special event. Another great Conservative, Rafael Cruz, will be the keynote speaker, speaking of his inspirational escape from tyranny and embracing the American Dream. Multnomah County Republicans are dedicated to fighting for our 2nd Amendment rights, as well as everyone’s opportunity to achieve the American Dream. We recognize that those who oppose the unfettered, legal ownership of rifles are also attempting to put legislation through our upcoming legislature that will make it easier for criminals to own guns, and harder for hard working citizens to own one. The Multnomah County Republicans invite all those who would like to celebrate constitutional liberty to RSVP for the Lincoln Day Dinner and to purchase a raffle ticket at our website, www.multnomahgop.org. According to Chair Reynolds, well over 100 tickets to the Lincoln Day Dinner have already been sold, and a sellout is expected. A quick sellout of the raffle tickets is also expected.

http://www.multnomahgop.org/raffling-an-ar15-again


* The claim that MLK Jr. was a Republican is, unsurprisingly, a lie: see http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp (quote from his son) or http://www.politifact.com/tennessee/statements/2012/jan/23/charlotte-bergmann/another-republican-claims-martin-luther-king-jr-wa/ .

Via Balloon Juice

genwah

(574 posts)
25. Okay, wait...the Multnomah Country Republicans are having a drawing for two people who were SHOT
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jun 2014

TO DEATH by assassins? And the prize is more firepower?

Neil deGrasse Tyson is right; the aliens have been here but decided not to make contact because there was no evidence of intelligent life on Earth.

Really, wow.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
28. I think there is too much meth up there.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

remember Sheriff John Bunnell was always hunting them down.

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