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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:50 AM Jun 2014

'Highly spiritual’ Oregon high school shooter Jared Padgett wrote plans to kill 'sinners' in diary:

Source: NY Daily News

'Highly spiritual’ Oregon high school shooter Jared Padgett wrote plans to kill 'sinners' in diary: police

Police found the alleged shooter's diary in his family's Oregon home. The 15-year-old's detailed plans did not name specific people as targets, police said. A leader at the teen's Mormon church said Padgett was 'highly regarded for his spirituality.'

BY MEG WAGNER NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Saturday, June 14, 2014, 9:45 AM

The 15-year-old freshman who opened fire on his Oregon high school Tuesday wanted to kill "sinners," the teen wrote in his diary.

Jared Padgett, an active member of an Gresham, Ore., Mormon church, shot and killed a student and injured a teacher during the attack on Reynolds High School before turning the gun on himself, police said.

While searching through the teen's home, officers found his journal, Portland's KGW reported.

In the diary, Padgett detailed plans to kill the "sinners" at his school, police said.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/oregon-school-shooter-wrote-plan-kill-sinners-cops-article-1.1829711#ixzz34d4CxXfn

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'Highly spiritual’ Oregon high school shooter Jared Padgett wrote plans to kill 'sinners' in diary: (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
He should have started with himself then n/t InfoWingerWatch Jun 2014 #1
Highly spiritual makes you want to kill people? hobbit709 Jun 2014 #2
"spiritual" LiberalLovinLug Jun 2014 #8
Much like politics and economics? LanternWaste Jun 2014 #27
Highly superstitious, delusional and irrational tabasco Jun 2014 #10
The Devil At Work billhicks76 Jun 2014 #23
I guess he hadn't made it to Matthew 7. Ilsa Jun 2014 #3
The Antidolt: PeoViejo Jun 2014 #4
Doctrine of blood atonement Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #5
Jon Krakauer wrote a very good book on this daleo Jun 2014 #7
Brian Evenson's novel 'The Open Curtain' was also inspired by the Blood Atonement doctrine. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #13
Most denominations leave wiggle room around "Thou shalt not kill." n/t Orsino Jun 2014 #26
The 841,452,666th murder committed by wacko people with Dogma Derangement Syndrome. nt Zorra Jun 2014 #6
Wrong. Too low. The internet wasn't around record the centuries of dead. freshwest Jun 2014 #20
Spiritual = Christian conservative nut-job... americannightmare Jun 2014 #9
don't confuse spirituality with religion. olddad56 Jun 2014 #11
Agreed. And hateful, too. freshwest Jun 2014 #21
And add to the mix, the Mormon cult. SoapBox Jun 2014 #12
Right-wing, fundamentalist "spirituality" is psychotic in every religion. stillwaiting Jun 2014 #14
Another lunatic with "Christian compassion." nt valerief Jun 2014 #15
Spiritual? I don't think so. Religious WhiteTara Jun 2014 #16
More people have been killed in the name of Jesus Hoppy Jun 2014 #17
Maybe, tjl148 Jun 2014 #22
Exclude Nazi Germany..... paleotn Jun 2014 #24
And many more killed over imaginary black and red lines on a map. LanternWaste Jun 2014 #28
His worship was the worship of violence and "power-over". love_katz Jun 2014 #18
Does "highly" spiritual mean that the voices in your head are particularly loud ? eppur_se_muova Jun 2014 #19
I bet he heard Jesus in his head, too. Or whatever god the Momos worship. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #25
Yet he only ended up killing one student ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #29

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
8. "spiritual"
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

Much like calling a religious person a person "of faith". As a way of elevating those who subscribe to following a man-made fantasy dogma. To call someone faithful makes them seem like automatically good intentioned, ....like Lassie. The same goes for "spiritual"

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
27. Much like politics and economics?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:56 AM
Jun 2014

"who subscribe to following a man-made fantasy dogma..."

Much like politics and economics?

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
3. I guess he hadn't made it to Matthew 7.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

The Bible has too much violence in it. Christians seem to think only Islam promotes violence against nonbelievers, but there is enough in the Bible, too, even against children.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. Doctrine of blood atonement
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:16 PM
Jun 2014

The sinner's blood must be shed to make salvation possible, thus shooting a sinner is a gift given them. Brigham Young taught this. It was the law in the Utah territory. They said it was compassionate to kill sinners and that blood must be spilled, thus a shot to the heart was the favored method.
Religions are all so creamy good!

americannightmare

(322 posts)
9. Spiritual = Christian conservative nut-job...
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jun 2014

who would never submit to secular mental health care. Biblepsychosis essentially sanctions the murder of anyone who doesn't adhere to the dogma. Then plug in easy access to guns - well, maybe that's part of our grim future, particularly with climate science denial in the mix with these wackos.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
11. don't confuse spirituality with religion.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

This guy was not highly spiritual. He was highly devoted to a whacked out religious practice. This guy obviously was spiritually bankrupt.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
14. Right-wing, fundamentalist "spirituality" is psychotic in every religion.
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jun 2014

Bad things come from it. Often.

tjl148

(185 posts)
22. Maybe,
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jun 2014

But how many more have been killed in the name of the government (insert China, Russia and Nazi Germany here)?

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
24. Exclude Nazi Germany.....
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 10:27 PM
Jun 2014

they were in on the God stuff too.



Religion has always been the single best way for any group, tribe or nation to dehumanize and make war on their neighbors. I really struggle with this, since I know folks who are religious (Quakers, Episcopalians, etc.) and wonderful people all around. But in the wrong hands, religion is deadly. Religion inherently divides people. Spirituality, on the other hand, is a totally different matter. I wish those in the media would learn to differentiate between the two.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. And many more killed over imaginary black and red lines on a map.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jun 2014

And many more killed over imaginary black and red lines on a map.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
19. Does "highly" spiritual mean that the voices in your head are particularly loud ?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jun 2014

Or just that there are more of them ? (If the latter, you might want to be real careful talking to monotheists about your "situation".)

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
29. Yet he only ended up killing one student
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

Something tells me he targeted that kid for a reason....something manifesting within himself maybe?

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