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mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:06 PM Jun 2014

French PM warns disgruntled Socialists they could "disappear"

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Prime Minister Manuel Valls warned the French left it could "disappear" and populist leader Marine Le Pen get through to a presidential election run-off, calling on his Socialist party to back his government's business-friendly reform plans.

(snip.) "I called for a sense of responsibility. The left could disappear and France could fall apart such has been the succession of crises - economic crisis, crisis of identity, cultural crisis," Valls said.

"In the face of this, we have to hold strong and over time," he told news channel iTele after a closed-door party meeting.

During the meeting, he also said the left had never been as weak since the creation of the fifth republic in 1958 and warned the National Front's Le Pen could make the run-off in the next presidential vote in 2017, French media reported.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/14/us-france-socialists-idUSKBN0EP0SV20140614

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French PM warns disgruntled Socialists they could "disappear" (Original Post) mylye2222 Jun 2014 OP
Translation: the left should stop being left or there will be no left. Raphael Campos Jun 2014 #1
No. The French must stop to act as a RW govt. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #3
If Valls is their best hope ucrdem Jun 2014 #2
Yes, he was the best hope for PS. But even know, after only a few weeks of tenure, mylye2222 Jun 2014 #4
Are tax cuts for business popular in France? JDPriestly Jun 2014 #12
Ridiculous DFW Jun 2014 #5
Yes. French GRASSROOT LEFT is alive but GOVT LEFT is dead since 2002 mylye2222 Jun 2014 #6
Yet Hollande sent Sarko into involuntary retirement DFW Jun 2014 #7
We just expected then to fire Sarkozy!!!! LOL mylye2222 Jun 2014 #8
Il me semblait bien DFW Jun 2014 #9
Ach so? Wohin whohnen Sie? Ich habe gelernt Deutsch in Schule fur 4 Jahren! mylye2222 Jun 2014 #10
??? DFW Jun 2014 #11
Needs just a LITTLE more editing! LOL DFW Jun 2014 #17
What is the French left government doing wrong? JDPriestly Jun 2014 #13
Where does one begin? DFW Jun 2014 #14
I would like to point out that I am having crepes for breakfast tomorrow. AngryAmish Jun 2014 #15
They're still pretty good, I must say DFW Jun 2014 #16
This guy is no socialist. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2014 #18
SINO......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #20
French "bi-partisanship." blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #19
Remember freedom fries WRH2 Jun 2014 #21

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
2. If Valls is their best hope
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:10 PM
Jun 2014

and last time I checked he was then things aren't looking good for the PS.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
4. Yes, he was the best hope for PS. But even know, after only a few weeks of tenure,
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jun 2014

hip popularity falls. And Hollande is the most unliked president we had. He gains only.....3 PERCENT OF FAVOR!!!!!

DFW

(54,267 posts)
5. Ridiculous
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:26 PM
Jun 2014

I'm in France almost once a week for work. The French Left is very much alive and kicking.

The fact that their current leadership is a bunch of morons doesn't mean the whole French Left is on the endangered species list.

By the way, we would do well to remember this--it doesn't apply to just one end of the spectrum.

Remember what we said about the Republicans in 2008.

DFW

(54,267 posts)
7. Yet Hollande sent Sarko into involuntary retirement
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jun 2014

And he has a theoretical majority in the assemblée as well.

But giving power to fonctionnaires never turns out well, and Holland is le fonctionnaire extraordinaire.

Give any large movement a raison d'être and some decent leadership, and they can make things happen.

They'll always have their raison d'être, but without decent leadership, they're a battleship without a rudder, and that's exactly how they're performing now. Hollande inspires about as much as an autistic garden slug. What did they expect?

DFW

(54,267 posts)
9. Il me semblait bien
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 04:46 PM
Jun 2014

I am from Texas, but I now live in Allemagne

Ça ne m'empêche pas, par contre, de parler votre langue

DFW

(54,267 posts)
17. Needs just a LITTLE more editing! LOL
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:42 PM
Jun 2014

OK, I THINK you wanted to say "Wo wohnen Sie? Ich habe 4 Jahre lang Deutsch in der Schule gelernt."

Mais en fin, ne vous cassez pas la tête à cause de ça.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. What is the French left government doing wrong?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jun 2014

Are the proposed tax cuts for business unpopular?

Is the left not representing working people?

Or is the opposite true?

What is going on?

I haven't been reading the French newspapers recently although I did for a while.

Please explain.

DFW

(54,267 posts)
14. Where does one begin?
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jun 2014

They have not succeeded (or even much tried) in defusing the explosive tension between immigrants and non-immigrants.

They have not improved the budget situation to the point where austerity can be taken off the table. They have organized parts of the Douane and Fisc (Customs and internal revenue) into autonomous terror brigades who go around harassing small businesses with special audits and levying fines, in some cases for laws that don't even exist, and threatening the shopkeepers with confiscation of their inventory if they protest. I know one guy who was about to be the victim of theft by a customs agent until he told them their whole visit was on video with sound. The guy returned what he had palmed.

They have not curbed either the power of les syndicats (sort of über-unions) to call massive disruptive strikes upon every whim, nor have they addressed the grievances of those unions that lead to the strikes.

Every leftist party in Europe CLAIMS to represent working people. Big deal. Republicans claim to love the American constitution, too. How far do you swallow THAT one?

It's worse in Belgium, by the way. There, there is a brigade that goes around accusing everyone of money laundering, confiscating their inventory, waiting a few years, and then when innocence has been "established," returns whatever portion of the seized goods they feel like. They keep the rest for themselves. This became "public (there is de facto press censorship in Belgium)" knowledge when these cops seized 15 kilos of gold from a precious metals dealer, waited 2 years, and then "found" he was innocent (like there was any evidence to begin with), and returned his 12 kilos of gold. When the guy protested they had seized 15 kilos, he was told tough shit--until one of the dirty cops had a fight with his girlfriend, who moved out and told another brigade of clean cops where in the dirty cop's apartment they could find the missing 3 kilos of gold.

It's not all crèpes and waffles, I'm afraid.

DFW

(54,267 posts)
16. They're still pretty good, I must say
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 05:37 PM
Jun 2014

They haven't found a way to mess crèpes up--yet. Give them time.....

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
20. SINO.........
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jun 2014

As are most of the Social Democratic parties in Europe. Austerity Lite instead of hard core austerity,

WRH2

(87 posts)
21. Remember freedom fries
Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jun 2014

the french citizenry is pretty smart.Except when they disagree with the neocons

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