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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:06 AM Jun 2014

KFC probes whether scarred girl was asked to leave

Source: Associated Press

KFC probes whether scarred girl was asked to leave
| June 15, 2014 | Updated: June 15, 2014 5:14pm

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — KFC Corp. says it's investigating allegations that a restaurant employee in Jackson, Mississippi, asked a 3-year-old to leave because her facial injuries disturbed other patrons. The company is also giving $30,000 toward Victoria Wilcher's medical bills, a spokesman said Sunday.

The allegation about KFC was made Thursday on "Victoria's Victories," a Facebook page following Victoria Wilcher's recovery from a pit bull attack in April. The administrator posted a photo showing Victoria smiling shyly in spite of her facial scars and cartoon-decorated eye patch, and wrote, "Does this look scary to you? Last week at KFC in Jackson MS this precious face was asked to leave because her face scared the other diners."

KFC posted an apology the next morning, requesting details.

"As soon as we were notified of this report on Friday, we immediately began an investigation, as this kind of hurtful and disrespectful action would not be tolerated by KFC," spokesman Rick Maynard wrote Sunday in an email to The Associated Press. "Regardless of the outcome of our investigation, we have apologized to Victoria's family and are committed to assisting them. The company is making a $30,000 donation to assist with her medical bills. The entire KFC family is behind Victoria."

Her grandmother Kelly Mullins said Victoria had just been to a doctor's when they stopped at the restaurant. She ordered mashed potatoes for Victoria because she thought the hungry child could swallow the soft food without chewing.



Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/KFC-probes-whether-scarred-girl-was-asked-to-leave-5554187.php

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KFC probes whether scarred girl was asked to leave (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2014 OP
With a "customer is always right" business model, mobocracy wins. alp227 Jun 2014 #1
But why would the employees do that? nt. BillZBubb Jun 2014 #3
Did any employee actually do that? LisaL Jun 2014 #11
That's why I asked the question. BillZBubb Jun 2014 #15
Doesn't sound convincing to me either. LisaL Jun 2014 #17
Because they (the employees) were self entitled assholes? n/t lexx21 Jun 2014 #50
The story sounds a little bizarre to me. BillZBubb Jun 2014 #2
It seemed questionable to me as well, so I looked up Victoria's Victories on Facebook justice1 Jun 2014 #9
The donations certainly picked up since the alleged KCF incident. LisaL Jun 2014 #10
that would be very sad, when i first read this story i assumed that it was confirmed JI7 Jun 2014 #13
Why would you assume it was confirmed? LisaL Jun 2014 #14
On their Gofundme page, they are now looking to raise $200,000 justice1 Jun 2014 #32
The KFC employee that supposedly asked the child to leave is called "they" not "he" or "she." LisaL Jun 2014 #33
sometimes "they" is used if one doesn't know if the person is "he" or "she" JI7 Jun 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Jun 2014 #38
i thought you were responding to the poster's use of "they" JI7 Jun 2014 #39
Well it happened last year at another restaurant, it's not that far fetched CreekDog Jun 2014 #22
That's not an apt comparison. BillZBubb Jun 2014 #26
I agree. LisaL Jun 2014 #27
I'd love to read the corporate memo (I'd think there'd be one) that goes out-- bvf Jun 2014 #4
I think your anger is misplaced elias7 Jun 2014 #7
Any corporation is ultimately responsible for the behavior of its employees, bvf Jun 2014 #20
Internal investigation by KFC was not able to verify that any of this actually happened. LisaL Jun 2014 #34
OK, that's the opposite of splitting hairs. bvf Jun 2014 #35
What in the world makes you think I can provide you a link to internal communication by KFC? LisaL Jun 2014 #36
Nothing does. Perhaps I was being too oblique for you. bvf Jun 2014 #40
Well, let's just call them assholes just in case. Whether they are responsible or not. LisaL Jun 2014 #41
Point taken. bvf Jun 2014 #42
What do you think? LisaL Jun 2014 #43
I think it's still impossible to buy coffee at my local KFC, bvf Jun 2014 #52
It seems unreal that any employee would be so cruel, but you never know, do you? Cha Jun 2014 #5
Curious. Android3.14 Jun 2014 #6
well another similar story more than held up CreekDog Jun 2014 #23
Had a feelin' this was a scam Android3.14 Jun 2014 #46
Good for KFC, they have just gone up a notch in my opinion of them. fasttense Jun 2014 #8
I confess to eating there once in a while, even though they're kind of the McDonald's of chicken. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #29
do they have any cameras in there ? JI7 Jun 2014 #12
This story rings true - ChazII Jun 2014 #16
At least today many people understand that irregular features are simply ... Kablooie Jun 2014 #18
I grew up with an severely autistic brother Skittles Jun 2014 #19
As a parent, you teach ChazII Jun 2014 #24
This story has been haunting me for years spiderpig Jun 2014 #21
spiderpig, the flight attendants ChazII Jun 2014 #25
Hi ChazII - so happy to have a new DU friend spiderpig Jun 2014 #30
Thanks, spiderpig. ChazII Jun 2014 #31
Forgive me if this sounds insensitive, but her disfigurement isn't nearly as bad as I expected nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #28
UPDATE: All a hoax by the grandparents bigworld Jun 2014 #44
Betcha the grandparents are Republicans. nt raccoon Jun 2014 #51
Seems it was all a hoax... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #45
Emotional DU response was curious to watch Android3.14 Jun 2014 #47
This information wasn't verified at all. LisaL Jun 2014 #48
It seemed fishy to me from the outset Android3.14 Jun 2014 #49

alp227

(32,015 posts)
1. With a "customer is always right" business model, mobocracy wins.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jun 2014

I wonder if any customers wanted Victoria to leave, or if the clerks decided on a whim to ask Victoria to leave.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
17. Doesn't sound convincing to me either.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:14 PM
Jun 2014

The little girl looks cute. Certainly not scary. Anything is possible, but I am waiting to see what the investigation showed, and what other people who were there saw/heard.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. The story sounds a little bizarre to me.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jun 2014

Who would be "scared" of a little girl, no matter how scarred she was? Then you have to have two of the most clueless people in the world come together while she was there. The first to demand she be kicked out of the restaurant because she scared them. The second, an employee, foolish and insensitive enough to actually go tell the girl and her family member to leave.

If an employee at KFC did do this, he or she should be fired immediately. No sensitivity training, no excuses, no nothing. If it was the franchise owner, KFC should revoke his/her franchise ownership.

justice1

(795 posts)
9. It seemed questionable to me as well, so I looked up Victoria's Victories on Facebook
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 05:18 PM
Jun 2014

In my opinion, the little girls misfortune is being used for profit. They had a Gofundme page, and were looking for $100,000, it wasn't going well until the alleged KFC incident. Including KFC's donation they have reached their goal, and more. On their Facebook page I also saw people trying to set up a trip to Disney, and donating art. After I read prayers were good, but money is better, that was enough for me.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. The donations certainly picked up since the alleged KCF incident.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jun 2014

I am curious as to what KFC's investigation actually shows.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
13. that would be very sad, when i first read this story i assumed that it was confirmed
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jun 2014

what had happened.

but if not this info does make me question it.

in both cases the girl is a victim.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
14. Why would you assume it was confirmed?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jun 2014

The allegation was made on facebook. Child's grandmother said this happened. I am not aware at this time of anyone else confirming this happened.

justice1

(795 posts)
32. On their Gofundme page, they are now looking to raise $200,000
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:29 AM
Jun 2014

Why aren't they naming the insurance company that is not paying for her care? There are details that are missing from the story, and it just doesn't make sense. Considering an innocent little girl is involved, I think this story will fade away, and we probably won't know if anything happened at KFC.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
33. The KFC employee that supposedly asked the child to leave is called "they" not "he" or "she."
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 08:32 AM
Jun 2014

As the story goes, it was one employee that asked this child to leave, not the group of them. Why the use of "they?"

Response to JI7 (Reply #37)

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
26. That's not an apt comparison.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jun 2014

In that case the child had skin lesions that could have been anything from measles to who knows what--potentially a contagious disease. Customers and management had a legitimate reason for concern. The manager didn't handle the situation well in that case, but it is not similar to this one which dealt strictly with scarring.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
27. I agree.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jun 2014

Considering a number of cases that caused internet outrage but turned out to be not true, I remain skeptical at this time.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
4. I'd love to read the corporate memo (I'd think there'd be one) that goes out--
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 01:02 AM
Jun 2014

or has possibly already gone out-- as a result of this.

It will not admit any corporate-level blame (be it due to lax hiring practices. or whatever), that's for damn sure.

Poor little girl! My thoughts are with her and her family.



Definitely inconsequential and trivial asides:

I haven't patronized my local KFC since I discovered it doesn't sell coffee. Now that I know an obvious scar behind my left ear could upset some patrons there, causing me to be asked to leave, that's definitely reasons #2 through #10 not to reconsider.


If I had been the manager of that KFC, and learned that the server had asked the complaining patrons to leave instead, I would have immediately given him/her a raise.



elias7

(3,997 posts)
7. I think your anger is misplaced
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:24 AM
Jun 2014

Where is the corporate-level blame here that you are insinuating? The blame is lower level management at the store itself. The corporate response has been appropriate and generous.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
20. Any corporation is ultimately responsible for the behavior of its employees,
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 01:57 PM
Jun 2014

regardless of level, while they're on the clock. That's why I'm curious to see how KFC responds in the confines of internal memoranda and possible action taken once the investigation is concluded.

I applaud KFC's public response, but would really like to get a glimmer of how they approach this internally. If it ends up with a modification of their hiring practices to specify "no soulless cretins," I'll be satisfied.


LisaL

(44,973 posts)
34. Internal investigation by KFC was not able to verify that any of this actually happened.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jun 2014

"We continue to take this report seriously, and of course have great sympathy for Victoria and her family. Since we have so far not been able to verify the incident in our internal investigation, we have also hired a third-party consultant to conduct an independent investigation to help us resolve this matter," said Kirk Hannon, of the Jackson KFC franchise, in a statement. "We have always prided ourselves on respect for all people and we will continue to emphasize this to all our employees. In addition, regardless of the outcome of the current investigation, KFC Corporation has committed $30,000 to assist with Victoria's medical bills. Along with KFC Corporation, we are determined to get to the truth and address the situation appropriately."

Read more: http://www.wapt.com/news/central-mississippi/kfc-investigates-claim-that-girl-was-turned-away-because-of-scars/26585314#ixzz35DFDmVpG


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
35. OK, that's the opposite of splitting hairs.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:55 AM
Jun 2014

Thanks for the link, Lisa. So you're essentially agreeing with the corporate response?

Let's see the e-mails and other internal communications that led to this public statement. I couldn't find a link, and anything you could provide on this would be very helpful.

KFC's PR Department (or whatever they're calling that these days) would seem to agree with me. Any indication that this episode really took place puts them--at the top--in a position of culpability.

I'd especially like to see the communications between Legal and PR addressing why $30,000 (or whatever the amount) was the optimum sum to give to the allegedly offended family, regardless of the results of their then-upcoming internal investigation.

This will probably fall off everyone's radar by the time the independent investigator comes to its conclusions, so we'll probably never know anyway, unless some portion of the media follows up, no?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
36. What in the world makes you think I can provide you a link to internal communication by KFC?
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:12 AM
Jun 2014

Why don't you provide a link to any evidence that this episode actually took place?
So far I have seen nothing but the allegation by the grandma.
There were supposedly other people eating at that restaurant.
Did any other witnesses come forward?

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
40. Nothing does. Perhaps I was being too oblique for you.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:52 AM
Jun 2014

If KFC thinks it didn't happen, that's not stopping them from shelling out profits from your(or anyone's, for that matter) last ten-piece-bucket-with-two-sides-and-biscuits to to a third-party investigator.

Re-read the last part of my previous post, too, and at last agree with me that nobody outside of the particular parties involved will ever know how this eventually will have played out. We'll all have moved on, possibly forgetting about assholes in the employ of KFC--for which they are responsible, or possibly not.







 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
42. Point taken.
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 05:35 AM
Jun 2014

But you seem fairly certain that this episode never in fact took place.

Aren't you at all interested in knowing for sure, or are you already convinced this is all about someone out to make a quick buck?


LisaL

(44,973 posts)
43. What do you think?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:30 PM
Jun 2014

"The story of Victoria Wilcher, who was disfigured by dog attack, being asked to leave a KFC Jackson because her appearance was scaring other customers was a story generated out of whole cloth and resulted in the family receiving more than $135,000 in cash, as well as gifts and free surgeries, sources with deep knowledge of the investigation said exclusively to the Laurel Leader-Call."

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/23/girl-tossed-from-kfc-hoax/11284405/

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
52. I think it's still impossible to buy coffee at my local KFC,
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:41 AM
Jun 2014

and if corporate has $30K to throw around responding to blackmail, you'd think they could afford it.

Btw, will KFC be getting its money back too?

Cha

(297,130 posts)
5. It seems unreal that any employee would be so cruel, but you never know, do you?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 02:26 AM
Jun 2014

If someone were bothered ask them to not look.

I think it's good of KFC to donate $30,000 to little Victoria Witcher's medical bills no matter what. Poor little thing.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
23. well another similar story more than held up
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jun 2014
Family Kicked Out Of Golden Corral Restaurant Over Children's Skin Disorder
Golden Corral restaurants may offer all-you-can eat buffets, but are they open to all?

The federal government sued a Westland, Mich. Golden Corral franchise Wednesday for allegedly kicking out a family after noticing a child that suffered from a genetic skin condition. The lawsuit charges that the restaurant's manager violated the Americans with Disabilities Act by denying service to Danielle Duford of Garden City, Mich. and her four daughters. Three of Duford's daughters suffer from epidermolysis bullosa, a condition that makes a person's skin extremely vulnerable to blistering.

According to the suit, manager David Robinson asked Duford what was wrong with one of her children, saying: “she has scabs all over, so obviously there is something wrong with her.” The document also noted that Robinson asserted the restaurant had “a right to ask what’s wrong if it concerns our customers and is contagious.”

The family was then asked to leave, despite repeated attempts by the mother to educate the restaurant management about the condition and the fact it was not contagious, according to the U.S. Justice Department.

The government is suing to prevent other incidents of discrimination and is seeking compensation for the family, as well as a $55,000 civil penalty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/21/golden-corral-lawsuit-westland-skin-disorder_n_2733946.html
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
8. Good for KFC, they have just gone up a notch in my opinion of them.
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

Now, if they would only stop abusing the chickens before they slaughter them.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
16. This story rings true -
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jun 2014

I know exactly what they are going through. My son who will be 30 in September, went through this exact same experience when he was 7 years old. (We were lucky in that his was at a coffee shop that my family frequented several times a week.)

An elderly couple requested the waitress to ask my family to leave as my son's face caused them to lose their appetite. The waitress said no and the couple then asked to speak to the manager. The manager then told the elderly couple that they could leave as my son had every right to be in the restaurant.

My son was called freak and monster baby for the first year of his life because of his face. After that, the baby was dropped but monster and freak continued. Thankfully this story is opening the eyes of the public about how the facially different are treat EVERY day in our country.

My son looks like Disney's version of the Hunchback.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
18. At least today many people understand that irregular features are simply ...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:17 AM
Jun 2014

a misfortune and not a character trait.

In times past circus freak shows were the main places the public had contact with these people and was one of the few employment opportunities available.

Today we have TV documentaries showing the ordinary lives of people with extreme disfigurations and it helps the public to understand and put it in perspective.

Certainly not everyone but I'd hope that most people would be accepting of people with unusual traits today.


Skittles

(153,147 posts)
19. I grew up with an severely autistic brother
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:58 AM
Jun 2014

I think that's where my kick ass-ness developed - protecting him from assholes, may of whom were adults who should have known better. I loved to shout at them WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? - yes indeed

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
24. As a parent, you teach
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jun 2014

your child to handle these things with diplomacy. At least that is what I did.

Picture the Disney version of Quasimodo. Did he look different? Did it look like he might be wearing a mask? When his peers (K-6) called him fat cheek he responded, "What good eyes you have" (Kdg-3rd) or "How observant you are! (4th-6th). You will be a good scientist or detective some day."

Those early Halloweens he was told "Great mask" or in the days afterwards, "Halloween is over, take off the mask".

The difference between you and me might be as a mom, I had to prepare him for the world and teach him that he needs to adapt to his environment and not the other way around. If I were to kick ass he might have been perceived as a freak and a mama's boy. I am an only child so I might be wrong on this next comment. As a sibling aren't you allowed to kick ass? Good for you, by the way.

It was fun to give the people staring the same intense stare right back. Sometimes with daggers and sometimes with amusement until they felt shame and averted their eyes.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
21. This story has been haunting me for years
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jun 2014

I was working a departure for a major airline over 20 years ago & went onboard to advise the flight attendants that I was seating a young girl early - (aged 10 or 12) who had been burned over 90% of her body.

One of the FAs said "Ooh - I hope she's not too horrible to look at."

I just looked at the FA, speechless, because my capacity for vitriol had made a former manager cry. I wanted to say "she can't possibly be uglier than you" but didn't. (Sidenote - most FAs are wonderful, caring people & I count many as friends, but the industry, like showbiz, attracts a certain amount of narcissistic airheads.)

I've had training in assisting all kinds of customers with respect, and it's been one of life's best lessons. Help blind people through the public transport system. Help old people up stairways and across intersections. But don't just assume they're incapable. Ask if you can assist.

OK - getting off my soapbox now.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
25. spiderpig, the flight attendants
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:01 PM
Jun 2014

that we met on the several flights we had to take to the children's hospital were awesome. Once we happened to be on the last flight of the day and as he kept requesting peanuts, they gave him an entire unopened bag of the small bags. (Hope that last sentence made sense.)

You truly have a kind heart.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
30. Hi ChazII - so happy to have a new DU friend
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 01:02 AM
Jun 2014

I have all the time in the world for kindly people. I respect boundaries & above all respect your dignity. Irony of ironies, I myself am going blind. Hard to type & feel like a klutz. But there are wonderful souls out there who WILL help you through it.

Feel free to pm me at any time.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
31. Thanks, spiderpig.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:36 PM
Jun 2014

You're right that there are wonderful souls who go out of their way to help others. I am saddened to read that you are going blind.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
28. Forgive me if this sounds insensitive, but her disfigurement isn't nearly as bad as I expected
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:34 PM
Jun 2014

given the other customers' reaction to her - not that they'd be in the right either way, mind you. If a little girl with an eyepatch and a few bite marks is enough to put them off their fried chicken dinner then they must have awfully weak stomachs.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
44. UPDATE: All a hoax by the grandparents
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:48 AM
Jun 2014

The report of a Jackson KFC accused of asking a 3-year-old girl to leave because of facial scars was a hoax, according to the Laurel Leader-Call.

The story of Victoria Wilcher, who was disfigured by dog attack, being asked to leave a KFC Jackson because her appearance was scaring other customers was a story generated out of whole cloth and resulted in the family receiving more than $135,000 in cash, as well as gifts and free surgeries, sources with deep knowledge of the investigation said exclusively to the Laurel Leader-Call.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/23/mississippi-girl-dog-attack-kfc-hoax/11290485/



....A hoax by the same grandparents whose pitbulls caused her very injury.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
47. Emotional DU response was curious to watch
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:21 PM
Jun 2014

We had many folks going off half-cocked with little verified information, spreading it further and vowing to never eat at KFC again.
Will those folks now spread the news that it was a hoax, they were misinformed, and encourage others to eat at KFC?
Thought not.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
48. This information wasn't verified at all.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

There was only an allegation originally made on facebook.
Nobody apparently checked to see if KFC outlet was even open.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
49. It seemed fishy to me from the outset
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jun 2014

The only reality about the story seems to be the fact that the adults are using her disfigurement as the linchpin of their scam. If the guardian faces prosecution and jail time, I sure hope the child receives better care from a more appropriate role model.

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