The last thing they want to hear is talk of a ceasefire!

"The ceasefire will be declared as soon as the border is secure," Poroshenko told a meeting of his top security chiefs in Kiev, setting his sights on later this week. "Declaring a ceasefire while the border is open would be irresponsible."

http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/idINKBN0ER1NR20140616?irpc=932

Still good to know he at least is open to the concept of a ceasefire. And he had seriously better watch his back, especially if he continues talking in such a less than totally warlike manner.

As Ukraine mulls security, some say build a wall with Russia.

KIEV, June 17 (Reuters) - Ukraine's leaders are puzzling over how to cut off Russian support for a separatist rebellion in the east of the country but one of its richest men thinks he has the answer.

Billionaire businessman Ihor Kolomoisky has suggested building a wall along the almost 2,000 km (1,200-mile) land border with Russia to prevent fighters and weapons flooding in.

The idea may sound absurd but Kolomoisky has offered to stump up 100 million euros ($136 million) to fund the two-metre (six-feet) high, 25-30 cm (10-12 inch) thick wall of reinforced steel, complete with electronic alarms, trenches and minefields.

What's more, it's been done before. Israel has constructed a barrier to keep out Palestinian militants. China built the Great Wall to stop invaders. Soviet-led East Germany erected the Berlin Wall, though more to keep people in than out.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/17/ukraine-crisis-border-idUKL5N0OY1S620140617

Great idea which would save Russia the bother and cost of doing so. Russia had already said early this year that they would fence the entire border themselves to prevent EU goods being smuggled into Russia.

see also from April http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=771690

''Fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity.'' ~General George S. Patton

- We're not only repeating history, but failed histories at that!

It would seem they chose to spend those funds elsewhere.


EU ambassador notes misuse of EU funds on strengthening Ukraine's border.

The Ukrainian authorities have ineffectively spent tens of millions of euros that were earlier allocated by the European Union to strengthen Ukraine's state border, EU Ambassador to Ukraine Jan Tombinski has said.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/eu-ambassador-notes-misuse-of-eu-funds-on-strengthening-ukraines-border-352241.html

- Except it's all been tried before. And it never works.....

At least 356 people, including 257 civilians, have died since the beginning of the “anti-terrorist” operation in Ukraine’s eastern regions of Lugansk and Donetsk, according to UN calculations. There were 14 children among the dead.

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The results prepared by the UN special commission in Ukraine have been presented by Gianni Magazzeni, head of European Department of the Office of the High Commissioner of Human Rights.

According to Magazzeni, the final body count includes 257 civilians (of them 14 children), 11 more died in Mariupol plus two staff members of Voda Donbassa company . The remaining 86 victims are the servicemen of Ukrainian army, including several dozen paratroopers and nine crew members of Ilyushin-76 who died in the recent plane crash not far from Lugansk airport.

The results prepared by the UN Special Commission in Ukraine have been presented by Gianni Magazzeni, head of the European Department of the Office of the High Commissioner of Human Rights.

http://rt.com/news/166788-eastern-ukraine-death-toll/

Blasting civilians with bombers and artillery is a war crime. These guys make the previous administration look like choir boys.

If Israel can do it to Palestinians and nary a peep is heard from the vaunted international bodies of concern, then that simply shows just how ''special'' the Ukraine has become to The Empire.

- The Empire is always there (or not) when our friends need us.......

Ukrainian law enforcement units will encircle Sloviansk to liquidate the armed opposition and regain full control over the state border in eastern regions, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/poroshenko-sloviansk-to-be-encircled-armed-opposition-to-be-liquidated-352386.html