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Judi Lynn

(160,218 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 07:08 PM Jun 2014

The Navy's top secret submarine base in land-locked IDAHO where its new stealth technology

Source: Daily Mail

The Navy's top secret submarine base in land-locked IDAHO where its new stealth technology
By Daily Mail Reporter


The Navy's Acoustic Research Detachment at Bayview, Idaho, is located some 375 miles from the ocean on the banks of Lake Pend Oreille

It provides the perfect conditions for testing new submarine advancements as conditions closely mimic the ocean

ARD Bayview has supported every major submarine design development of the last 65 years and saved the Navy millions of dollars as a result

Published: 12:33 EST, 15 June 2014 | Updated: 12:42 EST, 15 June 2014

The U.S. Navy's submarine bases are some of the most high-security installations in the world, but one of the most important is located at a lake in landlocked Idaho.

The Navy's Acoustic Research Detachment (ARD) at Bayview, Idaho, has supported every major submarine design development of the last 65 years.

Although located some 375 miles from the ocean, it has been called ‘the U.S. Submarine force's most important body of water" by Admiral Edmund Giambastiani, who once headed the Navy's submarine warfare group.

ARD is located on the banks of Lake Pend Oreille, which provides the perfect conditions for testing new submarine advancements as conditions closely mimic the ocean, reports FoxtrotAlpha.

At about 1150 feet, the lake is deeper than Loch Ness, while its large size, clear water and quiet conditions - provided by steep tree-lined shores and a flat muddy bottom - mean it has been a key testing location for the Navy since WWII.




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2658459/The-U-S-Submarine-forces-important-body-water-Secret-Navy-submarine-base-land-locked-Idaho.html#ixzz34qXSsQBt
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The Navy's top secret submarine base in land-locked IDAHO where its new stealth technology (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2014 OP
So this is the Navy's "skunkworks" or "Area 51"? rickyhall Jun 2014 #1
China Lake OneCrazyDiamond Jun 2014 #2
This makes an odd sort of sense if you think about it SwankyXomb Jun 2014 #3
Pend Oreille Lake is also whale-free jmowreader Jun 2014 #6
Doesn't seem very secret. n/t eggplant Jun 2014 #4
It's perfect! SeattleVet Jun 2014 #5
They have been here for years ... Wernothelpless Jun 2014 #12
140 miles from Moscow, Idaho. Coincidence? tclambert Jun 2014 #7
Do they have a HAARP Machine there? nikto Jun 2014 #8
Nuclear Reactor Prototype school Submariner Jun 2014 #9
Since the military NEVER spends less on the next-generation of anything... unhappycamper Jun 2014 #10
I don't where you get your cost, but it's wrong NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #11
Yeah it seems they cost a little bit over 2 billion each.. EX500rider Jun 2014 #13

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
3. This makes an odd sort of sense if you think about it
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jun 2014

You don't want to be alpha testing new sub and sonar tech out in the ocean where anyone can listen in.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
6. Pend Oreille Lake is also whale-free
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:19 PM
Jun 2014

They can go out there, run their sonars in active mode for as long as they want, and not have to worry about whales washing up on the shore. (The fish population doesn't seem to mind.)

Wernothelpless

(410 posts)
12. They have been here for years ...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jun 2014

This is NO secret ... The Navy and submarines are not new to the area ...

ARD Bayview has supported every major submarine design development of the last 65 years

A sweet little town on 4th of July as well ...

tclambert

(11,080 posts)
7. 140 miles from Moscow, Idaho. Coincidence?
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:23 PM
Jun 2014

As far as secrecy, Wikipedia knows about it, so if the enemy wants to find out about it, they don't need to try very hard.

Submariner

(12,485 posts)
9. Nuclear Reactor Prototype school
Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jun 2014

In the 60s nuclear reactor operator school was/is in Idaho. Guys who signed up for a minimum of 6 years, and had passed the aptitude tests, would spend a couple of years in Idaho before reporting aboard a Fast attack or Missile Submarine boat.

The school was an Admiral Rickover invention away from prying eyes like nearby Hanford was in WWII. This school is probably responsible for most, if not all, the reactor operators at commercial nuclear power plants.

This article makes it sound like the mission has changed.

unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
10. Since the military NEVER spends less on the next-generation of anything...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 05:15 AM
Jun 2014

Virginia-class subs cost $5 ~ $7 billion.

An $8+ billion dollar stealth sub would be worth it, doncha think?

EX500rider

(10,532 posts)
13. Yeah it seems they cost a little bit over 2 billion each..
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jun 2014

June 11, 2012: On June 1st the latest nuclear-powered Virginia class attack submarine, the USS Mississippi (SSN-782), entered service. Costing over $2 billion, the 7,800-ton boat has a length of 114.9 meters (377 feet) and is of 10.36 meters (34 feet) wide. Top speed is over 50 kilometers an hour and the boat can dive beyond 243.84 meters (800 feet).


https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20120611.aspx

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