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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:37 AM Jun 2014

Hillary Clinton On Gun Control: We Can't Let 'A Minority Of People' Terrorize The Majority

Source: Huffington Post

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke about her views on gun control Tuesday, saying she was "disappointed" Congress did not pass a universal background checks bill after "the horrors" of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

"I believe that we need a more thoughtful conversation, we cannot let a minority of people -- and that's what it is, it is a minority of people -- hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people," Clinton said during a CNN town hall.

Clinton said she feels for parents sending their kids to school, noting that there have been 74 school shootings since Sandy Hook.

"I don't think any parent, any person, should have to fear about their child going to school or going to college because someone, for whatever reasons -- psychological, emotional, political, ideological, whatever it means -- could possibly enter that school property with an automatic weapon and murder innocent children, students, teachers," Clinton said.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/hillary-clinton-gun-control_n_5505080.html

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Hillary Clinton On Gun Control: We Can't Let 'A Minority Of People' Terrorize The Majority (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2014 OP
Good use of the word "terror". nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #1
The gun crowd will slam her for saying "automatic" instead of "semi-auto". We get what she meant, Hoyt Jun 2014 #2
CNN walked back that '74' number as well last week. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Aristus Jun 2014 #25
The gun crowd slams anybody who refers to weapons of mass murder as what they are, Aristus Jun 2014 #22
We should expect more from those who wish to be our leaders derby378 Jun 2014 #24
Oh bull. They both kill people efficiently, and yahoos - often callous bigots - are attracted Hoyt Jun 2014 #31
What's the matter? Why did you delete your reply to me? AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #27
No. I replied to the wrong post. Aristus Jun 2014 #28
Ah, no worries. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #29
See what I mean? ^^^ Aristus Jun 2014 #26
Same old obfuscation to protect their access to more gunz. Hoyt Jun 2014 #32
Having An Opinion And Getting Something Done Are Quite Different cantbeserious Jun 2014 #3
Kinda like at DU, huh? Hekate Jun 2014 #35
But I thought that was the government's job!? DeSwiss Jun 2014 #4
At least she does understand the crisis. FarPoint Jun 2014 #5
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #6
How Is The Weather At The Bundy Ranch, Snowflake? The Magistrate Jun 2014 #7
ROFLMAO!!! Wow where do you get this shit? bowens43 Jun 2014 #8
WTF are you talking about? The_Commonist Jun 2014 #9
K&R for sanity. nt TBF Jun 2014 #10
Hearing her say this is a pleasant suprise Coolest Ranger Jun 2014 #11
Hillary just guaranteed high voter turnout for the tea-baggers ...... groundloop Jun 2014 #12
On the testosterone-fueled issue of guns, she is only waffling a little. Orsino Jun 2014 #13
Well done. She's not pissing off anybody that was ever going to vote for her. (nt) Paladin Jun 2014 #14
A great way to frame the debate cosmicone Jun 2014 #15
When some average Joe walks into a local biz with an automatic weapon - That's Terrorism LynneSin Jun 2014 #17
Inter-thread Rec. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #19
Yes, it's domestic terrorism. nt Hekate Jun 2014 #34
Domestic terrorism by means of public intimidation. Exactly. Paladin Jun 2014 #37
And all she said was she supported universal background checks... happyslug Jun 2014 #18
I agree with her. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2014 #20
I don't mind if they're hanging off of a police officer Blandocyte Jun 2014 #23
I just do not get these guys who have a love affair with their guns. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2014 #38
K&R billh58 Jun 2014 #21
She left herself a big weasel clause tularetom Jun 2014 #30
Well, we have and we are. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #33
KnR Hekate Jun 2014 #36
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. The gun crowd will slam her for saying "automatic" instead of "semi-auto". We get what she meant,
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:52 AM
Jun 2014

and I applaud her for having the guts to say something.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
16. CNN walked back that '74' number as well last week.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jun 2014

But honestly, saying 'only 15' is not exactly something to cheer about. It's still fifteen vicious, armed attacks upon schools.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/index.html

Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #16)

Aristus

(66,096 posts)
22. The gun crowd slams anybody who refers to weapons of mass murder as what they are,
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014

regardless of terminology.

They'll say something like:

" 'Automatic' isn't the same as 'semi-automatic', which means guns aren't a threat, which means school shootings don't really happen, which means school kids aren't as important as my 50-piece arsenal. God bless America!"

I applaud her, too.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
24. We should expect more from those who wish to be our leaders
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jun 2014

If you can't tell the difference between semi-auto and full-auto, you don't belong in the White House. Education, education, education.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. Oh bull. They both kill people efficiently, and yahoos - often callous bigots - are attracted
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:56 AM
Jun 2014

to them for that reason. Policy makers really don't need to know any more than that, unless they want to coddle some of the poor , pitiful gun fanciers.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
27. What's the matter? Why did you delete your reply to me?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jun 2014

Re-read it and realized I did nothing of the sort?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
29. Ah, no worries.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:04 AM
Jun 2014

I withdraw my tone there. I am oft-identified as a member of the gun crowd to some degree, but I can see which post you meant to reply to now.

No worries.

FarPoint

(12,209 posts)
5. At least she does understand the crisis.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:43 AM
Jun 2014

The minority, gun nuts, they are terrorizing indeed. At a minimum, abusive bully behavior.

Response to onehandle (Original post)

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
9. WTF are you talking about?
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:18 AM
Jun 2014

"They fighting hard" to be able to send our children to school each day without worrying that some whack-job like yourself won't come along and snuff out the entire next generation because of some combination of delusions of grandeur mixed with a nearly pornographic love of the boom-boom.

Go away, learn English, realize that you are a member of a society, and please, try to get a brain, Moran!

groundloop

(11,488 posts)
12. Hillary just guaranteed high voter turnout for the tea-baggers ......
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jun 2014

It needs to be off the charts for all voters who have a brain.


 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
15. A great way to frame the debate
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:30 AM
Jun 2014

but she just lost Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Carolinas and Georgia ... but she wasn't going to win those anyway hahaha.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
17. When some average Joe walks into a local biz with an automatic weapon - That's Terrorism
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:35 AM
Jun 2014

Mind you, I respect that there are those people who need to carry these weapons and usually they wear uniforms that identify they have reason to carry such weapons. Like they wear an OFFICIAL military uniform, or a police uniform or the uniform of a security team. Most of the time these people do not carry anything bigger than a handgun into local businesses. They know that they do not need auto-matic waepons with huge magazines in order to buy a cup of coffee.

But if I see anyone who just randomly strolls into a public business (other than a gun store) and they are carrying a huge rifle, I will assume they are terrorists. These people are instilling fear into other customers and to me that is the definition of fear

Paladin

(28,204 posts)
37. Domestic terrorism by means of public intimidation. Exactly.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:53 AM
Jun 2014

I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it: Anybody who finds the licensed concealed carry of firearms insufficient and feels compelled to resort to open carry, is exhibiting the exact traits which should prohibit their possessing guns at all.

And no, open carry bullies, "Goddammit, because the law SAYS I can!" is not an adequate justification for such thuggish behavior.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
18. And all she said was she supported universal background checks...
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jun 2014

She did NOT said she was for restricting any actual ownership of any weapon. In fact you can make a case that if the Supreme Court would rule the ban on civilians owning automatic weapons (except those made and owned by Civilians prior to 1986) is unconstitutional, Hillary would support that decision. i.e. Hillary would support the right to own automatic weapons by civilians.

On the other hand universal background checks has support even in areas of widespread gun ownership, thus it is a very safe position to take on the issue of gun control. She does NOT turn off to many voters in the swing states of Pennsylvania and states to its West (i.e. The American Mid West) but at the same time strengthens her hands in the more urban areas along the West Coast and the Atlantic Coasts.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,816 posts)
20. I agree with her.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:56 AM
Jun 2014

I don't want to walk into the grocery store and see people walking around with AK47s. I don't care if people own guns and I don't care if they go home and masturbate with them.

I don't want to see them in public places. I don't want to go into a restaurant and see guns hanging off the seats.

Blandocyte

(1,231 posts)
23. I don't mind if they're hanging off of a police officer
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jun 2014

but I'll agree with your other comments. Except the visual of the masturbation thing. Ew.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,816 posts)
38. I just do not get these guys who have a love affair with their guns.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jun 2014

And, honestly, I have no use for them.

Guns are tools and should be used as such.

People with huge ego problems should go buy a Harley if they need to prove to the world that they have big balls. I am completely sick of that whole attitude.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
30. She left herself a big weasel clause
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 12:38 AM
Jun 2014

When some NRA type points out that no automatic weapons were used in any recent school shootings and she then realizes that she has unknowingly pissed off a large bloc of potential voters she can then reiterate that she was only referring to fully automatic weapons.

When the shit hits the fan, she'll backtrack. She always has.

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