Don't get caught.

It gets a little shady when it comes to actually following them. They must figure they get more points by telling others what to do.

Republicans would have crucified him.

Republicans would lynch President Obama if they could.

This is just rhetoric to appeal to their base.

We need to do ... something ... about them.

And we could use more "...welcome the stranger (immigrant, documented or not), visit those in prison (and get the non-violent drug offenders and the mentally unhealthy out of there & into many more treatment options)..."
Yeah, we could use more Matthew 25 Christ messages thrown in
PLUS the one about loving our brothers (and sisters, Muslim, gay, black, white, Dem AND R, etc.) as we love ourselves (or for those who have trouble loving ourselves and consider ourselves Christian, we are to love each other as Jesus loved us.

HYPOCRITES all.

"Obama must defend Christian values from GOP Christians"

After playing nice has failed the previous 1,417 times to soothe over conservatives and win their cooperation, does he think just one more time is going to finally crack their defenses?

It's not a learning problem, it goes to motive.

Religion is the oldest, most profitable marketing scam on the planet.

Heaven? Now that is one big, eternal entitlement!

What they do is, sell a product, salvation, which costs absolutely nothing to make and sell it to gullible people looking for answers that science can't entirely explain. Religious organizations have grown and profited through history by assimilating many cultures and traditions to spread it's viral poison of guilt, shame, selfishness and eternal life in Heaven, Garden Of The Gods, or Valhalla, or Elysian Fields, or The Cedar Forest or the Happy Hunting Ground, or, Stovokor...

Martin Luther formed a new church because the Pope was corruptly selling slices of Heaven known as "indulgences". The Pope was on the take from both poor and wealthy supporters.


If I believe in God, then I am entitled to a cushy life in Heaven forever.
Just place cash in bowl.

If I believe in God, then I am entitled to a cushy life in Heaven forever.
Just place cash in bowl.

If I believe in God, then I am entitled to a cushy life in Heaven forever.
Just place cash...

"Just pay this amount of money to the Vatican, and you can drink and carouse and fornicate, God will let you off the hook..."

BUT...

Martin Luther was a real bastard also, he hated Jews with a passion, and when they wouldn't convert en masse to the Lutheran church, he demanded Jews' property and Synagogues be seized and destroyed.

Luther also supported a couple dictatorships that brutally killed any dissenters.

Attacks on religious freedom? Where? When I see such a thing I will gladly object to it and stand against the tyrant/s. I don't see any of that. No matter how the zealots whine that "OMG, you took gawd out of skool. Now we cant say are prairs anymoar." Sure they can, they can pray wherever they want as it doesn't have to be verbalized. They can practice their religion all they like, at home, at a religious school, at church, on TV. What they can't do is preach in public schools, because not everyone agrees with or is a member of their particular religion. Where the hell is the attack on religious freedom? Is it that they can't legally force public schools to worship their God? Is it that they aren't allowed to preach and promote religion in public school? Wait... they actually do the latter - just, usually, after school hours.

The true freedom of religion lies in the ability to choose. These fuckers aren't being persecuted, they're just not being allowed to force their religion on others - and that's where the outrage really lies.

Fuck you, Rubio. Fuck all of you idiots who think you have the right to force your religion on me or my kids. There is a separation between church and state. You nitwits wouldn't want the Vatican telling you how to live - and I will not have you telling me how to live.

You hit it on the head!! I'm a public school teacher, and the kids have the right to pray all they want, they just can't demand everyone do it with them. Under the right circumstances, they can even do it out loud. I used to drive to school with a hard core, RW born again. She was a coach, and told she me she got in trouble because she let the girls pray before their games. My guess is she insisted they did, and made everyone join in. When my kids wanted to have a prayer circle before a recital they asked me if it would be OK, and asked if I want to join them. While not a Christian, I told them I would be honored. I then told the other 150 kids in the room they were welcome to join us, but if they chose not to, that was fine also, I just needed them to respect what was going on, and maintain silence. You could literally hear a pin drop in that room during the prayer, and NOT ONE KID COMPLAINED to administration, their parents, or anyone else. You just need to know how to handle this stuff, and respect people's wishes. And on that the GOP is totally clueless.

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In fact, here's what The Constitution DOES say (Article 6, Section 3):

"...but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

And of course, there is that 1st Amendment thingy about not establishing a state religion. But I'm preaching to the choir here. Unfortunately, our Freeper trolls don't understand, or just don't care, because you actually have to read The Constitution to understand it, not just take Faux News' word for stuff. And that readin' stuff is hard for them.

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We're fucked.

We are witnessing the last gasps and desperate clinging to the bedsheets of religious power.

the question remains: "Why?"

Here we go again with the "otherness" argument.

What pigs. Fuck 'em all.

by stripping religion of its tax-exempt status.

I think if a religion genuinely does the charity thing, it should be tax-exempt like any other legitimate charity.

At, you know, more than a 10% rate.

In fact, I'd go for a split where the charity side (i.e. devotes the vast majority of the money to genuinely caring for the needy with a minimal overhead) is tax-free and the other side (the being a religion part) is fairly taxed at a reasonable rate (say, as a corporation).

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NEWSFLASH FOR YOU TEABAGGING REPUKE PIECES OF SHIT: HATRED, WAR, TORTURE, LYING etc. ARE NOT CHRISTIAN VALUES

originally I used it only at work, to IM to the whistlers and snorters

But I won't

Are christians being denied the practice of their religion in their chuches and homes? No.
What needs to be defended is the imposition of the "values" these so-called "christians" have upon a secular government and others who refuse to buy into that crap.

I was raised by a Christian who spent her entire life caring for disabled and disturbed kids. Do they mean those Christian values? Obviously not or they wouldn't still be Republicans.

Do they mean we should observe the Christian values of charity, temperance and forgiveness? No because ditto.

No, I suspect that what they mean by "Christian" values here is hating gay people. But that's not a Christian value or, at least, it's not a value held by many Christians, just the fundies who have taken over the GOP.

if Obama were to defend Christian values (which I don't think he has any business doing as President) the TPGOP would have to state their opposition to them. Don't these freaks ever listen to what they say as it comes out of their pieholes?

The Pope will put him straight

In every aspect of US government. Top to bottom.

"America's leaders must do more to defend Christian values at home and abroad?"

"Blaming President Barack Obama for attacks on religious freedom?" I blame someone else.

The Christian right is LEADING the attack on religious freedom in America. Obama took an oath of office obliging him to defend the Constitution against attacks on our freedom of religion, which includes protecting us from fanatic pseudo-Christians who want to force the country to exclusively adopt only their views and values.

How do the pseudo-Christians expect Obama to defend the Constitution and at the same time allow dictatorship by fanatics of one religious sect?

(No, I don't expect an answer to that)

"Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

Mathew 13: 13.

Now I am not a bible thumper in any way shape of form but it would be a lot of fun to see someone go after them with a vengeance focusing on the purported teachings of Jesus and continually hitting away on the hypocrisy of those who claim to be Christian. Heads would explode because instead of following the teachings of Jesus they are stuck in the Old Testament. I would think that "Christian values" from come from the New Testament not the Old Testament. And if they want to follow the Old Testament start pointing out the absurdities. I love the scene from The West Wing when Bartlett took on the character that was supposed to be based on Dr. Laura.

This scene was one of THE most memorable.