Chinese police shoot dead 13 attackers in Xinjiang
Source: Reuters
Police shot dead 13 attackers in China's restive Xinjiang region after they rammed a car into a police station and detonated explosives, the official Xinhua news agency reported on Saturday, in the latest of a series of attacks to worry Beijing.
Xinjiang is the traditional home of Muslim Uighurs who speak a Turkic language, and China has blamed previous attacks on Islamist separatists it says seek to establish an independent state there called East Turkestan.
Three police officers were "lightly wounded" in the attack on Saturday morning, but there were no casualties among the public, the news agency said citing the local government.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/21/us-china-security-idUSKBN0EW07D20140621
Uncle Joe
(58,297 posts)Thanks for the thread, mureil_volestrangler.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)The plane disappeared a few days after the railway platform knife attacks.
Uncle Joe
(58,297 posts)Are you suggesting one of the pilots crashed the plane on purpose to make a statement?
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Allah himself is displeased with the Chinese government and has made a plane full of Chinese nationals simply disappear.
But yes, a deliberate ditching at the deepest and most remote location in the Indian Ocean.
Uncle Joe
(58,297 posts)you want to call them use tactics in their attacks that are highly visible, they want the world and in this case especially China to know what they were doing.
Ditching the plane in the middle of a remote area of the ocean leaves too much up to speculation, perhaps it was an accident or malfunction? This would dampen or altogether eliminate their message of martyrdom.
The M.O. just doesn't seem to match up to me.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)And if it was an uncoordinated act of one devout individual, then what group can make a credible claim?
Although someone calling themself the Chinese Martyrs Brigade apparently tried but was dismissed as fraudulent.
Uncle Joe
(58,297 posts)fasttense
(17,301 posts)there would be no bombings and rebellions like this.
Real communism is all about communal sharing. The complete paragraphs containing Marx's statement of the creed in the 'Critique of the Gotha Program' is as follows:
In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantlyonly then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
A society with all the springs of co-operative wealth flowing abundantly does not create bombers and terrorists.
China is fully in the grips of totalitarian capitalism and both develop the worst in humankind.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)In an ideal society, people would be so comfortable that nationality or religion wouldn't matter to them; but nowhere, capitalist, communist or anything else, has got anywhere near being ideal.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)But we all seem to get capitalism.
I think religion and nationalism wouldn't rear their ugly heads if economic systems were fair. When economic systems condemn millions to poverty, like capitalism always does, then the people must turn to something for hope. That's when the ugly destructive side of religion and politics come out to play.
Most economist like to pretend that nationalism, politics, religion and economics are all separate and distinct little worlds. But they all feed off of each other like most social systems.