Khamenei says Iran strongly opposes US intervention in Iraq
Source: RTE
Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei expressed strong opposition to US intervention in Iraq, saying Iraqis themselves were able to bring an end to the violence there, the official IRNA news agency reported.
Ayatollah Khamenei, who has the last word on all matters of state, added in remarks to judiciary officials that Washington aimed to keep Iraq under its control and place its own "Yes Men" in power.
The conflict there was not sectarian, but was really between those who wanted Iraq in the US camp and those who sought Iraq's independence, IRNA reported.
Meanwhile Sunni insurgents led by al Qaeda splinter group the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), also known as ISIL, captured three towns in Iraq's western Anbar province, witnesses and security sources said.
A military intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said army troops withdrew from Rawa, Ana and Rutba this morning and ISIS moved quickly to completely control these towns.
Read more: http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0622/625603-iraq/
MADem
(135,425 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 22, 2014, 08:44 AM - Edit history (1)
They're already there, on the ground, doing the same damn thing that SF are doing, and if they say otherwise, well, they're quite full of shit.
There's no good solution there. Hasn't been for a long, long time, unfortunately.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)And dumped trillions of US taxpayers dollars there just to enrich a few war profiteers.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I wonder if they're feeling like "liberators" these days?
Loudly
(2,436 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Had they permitted a SOFA accord, we'd still be there--not in large numbers, on a base, but Baghdad would be a regular Army duty station. US military aircraft would refuel on an air facility tucked away at the end of the international airport.
The leadership wanted US forces to be subject to local Sharia law and that just wasn't going to happen. That's what ended our involvement in Iraq.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Even now Iran is saying that the U.S. is not welcome. Iraqi independence is a charade.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Sheesh. They have a lot of nerve.
MADem
(135,425 posts)hows, whys and where-fors of SOFA.
I am simply stating a plain fact--we don't stay without it.
Do with that information what you will, or not.
No SOFA? No forces. State Department plays it that way, and Defense concurs.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)They're going to have to do all the heavy lifting themselves now, and it may not work.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Sharia Law. PFFFT, nice framing.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Unless you're saying that something other than Sharia law --say, Law of the Jungle, perhaps, or blind luck--ruled the day?
Again--no SOFA, no troops. That's the bottom line. Huff and puff away!
Bet they wish they'd taken the deal. Too late.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)My post and probably Grumpy's were not for your benefit but other DUers who might not have known the circumstances and could have fallen for your nonsense.
Have a good one.
MADem
(135,425 posts)But you're playing that fight-picking game, like you always do.
I always have a good one--you should try it sometime.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Your usual drama and fight picking?
No, they didn't. And it was a lame try on your part, too.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Get out of here.
MADem
(135,425 posts)fights with me (and I point it out every time you do that, so you probably should just stop doing it--it never ends well for you).
You should take your own advice instead of trying to tell other people what to do. Makes you look like a bit of a bully, you know, demanding that people "Get out of here"--not very civil, that.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Like I said, these posts are not really for you, but other DUers.
Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)Helped me make up my mind...
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...of how Iran is going to act regarding our involvement.
Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Rhiannon12866
(202,970 posts)The thing we forget is that the actual people don't hate us. The Iranians were the only ones in the region that marched in sympathy with us after 9/11.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And you don't even need to watch Shahs of Sunset to realize it, either.
People are shocked to meet Iranian Jews, Armenians, Christians of various sorts, and people who say they are shi'a (sunni exist but they are very much a minority) but will enjoy a beer or a shot of whiskey.
They aren't a nation of fundies...they're actually a nation with a lot of people who like to have FUN.
Igel
(35,191 posts)How's that work?
Perhaps ISIS is the side fighting for the US to be involved? I guess Salafists and Baathists always had a soft touch for US "imperialism". So, that's overstating things. A bit.
Iran's on al-Maliki's side and had guards go to help protect "sacred places". But it's obvious that Iran doesn't want us there and is on the side that wants Iraqi "independence."
Of the three actors, so far two want the US out. That means al-Maliki must be on the pro-US domination side. So does that mean Iran and the Salafists are on the same page, working against al-Maliki?
Far too complicated. Or perhaps it's a mistranslation. Persian's apparently very difficult to translate, with all kinds of idioms. Perhaps ""seek Iraq's independence" really means "want chocolate cheese cake" or "want the gates of hell to crumble into Oreo pie crust."