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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 01:26 PM Jun 2014

Ukraine separatists 'to join truce', rebel leader says

Source: BBC

Pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine say they will observe a ceasefire until Friday morning, responding to the Ukrainian forces' unilateral ceasefire.

The rebel announcement was made in Donetsk by Alexander Borodai, leader of the self-styled "Donetsk People's Republic" which is defying Kiev.

On Friday, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced a 15-point peace plan and declared a week-long truce.

Mr Borodai spoke after attending preliminary peace talks in Donetsk.

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27987156

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Ukraine separatists 'to join truce', rebel leader says (Original Post) bemildred Jun 2014 OP
Good news. pampango Jun 2014 #1
Surprisingly good news if it is true. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #2
I've been wondering if they would go along. bemildred Jun 2014 #3
And yet, they didn't. Igel Jun 2014 #4
Well, like I said, is there a "they" there that can agree to anything? bemildred Jun 2014 #5

pampango

(24,692 posts)
1. Good news.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:55 PM
Jun 2014
Ukraine separatists agree to ceasefire

Separatist leaders in two main areas of Ukraine's east have agreed to observe a ceasefire until Friday, one of the leaders has said.

Alexander Borodai made the comments after meeting a "contact group" that included a former Ukrainian president, Moscow's envoy to Kiev and a representative of the OSCE security watchdog.

"The consultation ended with authorities of the Luhansk and Donetsk Republics agreeing to maintain a ceasefire for their part until the 27th," he said.

The truce will run parallel to a unilateral Ukrainian military ceasefire declared by the president, Petro Poroshenko, on Friday as part of a peace plan to end an insurgency by pro-Russia separatists in the Russian-speaking east of Ukraine.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/ukraine-separatists-ceasefire-luhansk-donetsk

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,172 posts)
2. Surprisingly good news if it is true.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jun 2014

Borodai is an interesting character. A Russian citizen, believed to be part of the FSB, who came down to Crimea following Maidan to "advise" annexation efforts, and then skipped on over to Donetsk just as the secessionist movement ratcheted up there. He was promptly "elected" "prime minister" of Donetsk.

If Moscow does in fact have a point man in Eastern Ukraine, Borodai's most likely the guy.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. I've been wondering if they would go along.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jun 2014

I'm not all that surprised, they have no independent future without Putin's acquiescence. The question is going to be whether they can agree on anything. There will be various parties trying to see that they don't, too.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
4. And yet, they didn't.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:47 PM
Jun 2014

Chopper shot down, a border post attacked, troops shelled, checkpoints attacked.

And the same PR from the Russian press. Even as they say, "LGR representatives say that they've attacked a check point" the Russian press has another article saying that "The Ukrainian army shot at opolchentsy and violated the ceasefire." Bolotov, Gubarev, Borodai all continue the same refrain--"they shot at us." Conspicuously absent is the word "first," as in, "They shot at us first."

That Poroshenko has said from the very beginning that they'd clearly return fire is something I don't recall reading in any Russian source (Russian-language sources in Ukraine abound, and they reported Poroshenko's plan bilingually ... Sometimes irritatingly not-quite-bilingual, since some translators mix the two languages a bit).

Poroshenko also said he'd want them to establish a 10 km buffer zone at the border. As of late last night control hadn't been established at Izvaryne and the most that the army's done there is to establish a kind of buffer between the LPR-controlled border crossing and deeper inside Ukr territory.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
5. Well, like I said, is there a "they" there that can agree to anything?
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 08:48 AM
Jun 2014

And yes, the news environment is very noisy and unreliable. I see the same story spun 5 different ways every day.

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