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alp227

(32,017 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:26 PM Jun 2014

Legal memo backing drone strike is released

Source: Washington Post

A federal court on Monday released a previously secret government memo outlining the legal justification for the 2011 killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen and accused al-Qaeda operative, in a drone strike in Yemen.

The document was released under order of the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York and provides the most detailed explanation to date for the legal reasoning behind Awlaki’s killing. Its disclosure also represents a significant capitulation by the Obama administration, which fought for years to keep the memo — as well as many other aspects of its targeted killing program — secret from the public.

“We do not believe that al-Aulaqi’s U.S. citizenship imposes constitutional limitations that would preclude the contemplated lethal action” by the U.S. military or CIA, the memo concluded, clearing the way for a drone strike that would trigger intense legal and political debate.

Rights groups welcomed the disclosure of the 41-page memo.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/legal-memo-backing-drone-strike-is-released/2014/06/23/1f48dd16-faec-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html

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Legal memo backing drone strike is released (Original Post) alp227 Jun 2014 OP
Funny how up in arms.... AZ Mike Jun 2014 #1
'Irony died a long time ago...' but if it hadn't, that's the GOP to a 'T.' freshwest Jun 2014 #6
I thought it was funny how up in arms some people were about a memo justifying hughee99 Jun 2014 #11
Can't wait to read the legal explanation... uberblonde Jun 2014 #2
Timing is everything... Javaman Jun 2014 #3
Footnote 33 on p. 82 dirtydickcheney Jun 2014 #4
As long as the guy is under notice to surrender cosmicone Jun 2014 #5
You wrote... Bragi Jun 2014 #7
The poster is an Islamaphobe who has a serious mancrush on India's Hindu nationalists. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #9
Thank you for proving my point cosmicone Jun 2014 #10
Can't wait for a certain misanthrope to chime in... riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #8

AZ Mike

(468 posts)
1. Funny how up in arms....
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jun 2014

....the GOP is about al Awlaki for this reason and how up in arms they are about Bergdahl for the opposite reason.

Spinning like a top.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. 'Irony died a long time ago...' but if it hadn't, that's the GOP to a 'T.'
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jun 2014

They'll never get it, and they didn't care about al Awlaki until they decided his death was a tool to go after Obama. He had quite a life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki#Later_life.2C_and_ties_to_terrorism

Bergdahl is just one of their Benghazis. They'd blame Obama for not getting him. When PBO got him, now it's a bad thing. Because... ODS.



hughee99

(16,113 posts)
11. I thought it was funny how up in arms some people were about a memo justifying
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

the torture of foreign nationals but a memo justifying killing a US citizen doesn't seem a big deal.

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
3. Timing is everything...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jun 2014

this comes out at a time when we are going to drone strike in Iraq.

funny how that is.

 

dirtydickcheney

(242 posts)
4. Footnote 33 on p. 82
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:15 PM
Jun 2014

"The fact that the operation occurs in a new location might alter the way in which the military must apply
the relevant principles of the Jaws of war-for example, requiring greater care in some locations in order to abide by
the principles of distinction and proportionality that protect civilians from the use of military force. But that
possible distinction should not affect the question of whether the laws of war govern the conflict in that new location
in the ftrst instance."

Thanks for making that crystal clear!!

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
5. As long as the guy is under notice to surrender
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jun 2014

to authorities it should be legal.

Al Awlaki could always have gone to the nearest US embassy and asked for a lawyer to represent him. Instead, he continued his illegal activities and posed a threat to society.

US citizens are killed by cops every day when they refuse to drop their weapons and allow themselves to be arrested. This is the same situation in my opinion.

In some corners of DU, there is a lot of sympathy and support for Islamic terrorists but not many complain about people subjected to deadly force by cops in cities and towns right here in the USA.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
7. You wrote...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jun 2014

[[blockquote
In some corners of DU, there is a lot of sympathy and support for Islamic terrorists but not many complain about people subjected to deadly force by cops in cities and towns right here in the USA.

I would dispute both those claims. I've seen few posters here advocate "sympathy and support for Islamic terrorists" but I regularly see people here complain about police using deadly force.

Odd that our experience here would be so dramatically different.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
9. The poster is an Islamaphobe who has a serious mancrush on India's Hindu nationalists.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jun 2014

You know, the ones who actually massacre Muslims. So anything short of that looks like hug a mullah appeasement to him.

His posts about the missing airplane were a riot- he managed to blame every Muslim nation from Pakistan to Somalia. He'd have blamed Dearborn, MI if it stayed in the news much longer.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
10. Thank you for proving my point
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jun 2014

your sympathies compell you to see any and every anti-terrorist statement as Islamophobia.

The world is not against muslims - the world hates terrorism and a vast majority of terrorism is caused by people who happen to be muslims under a misguided notion that Islam requires them to do so.

The fact that mainstream and peaceful muslims don't speak out loudly against terrorism is not very helpful either.

Your accusation that hindu nationalists massacre muslims is patently false and an extreme hyperbole.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
8. Can't wait for a certain misanthrope to chime in...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:17 PM
Jun 2014

Name misspelled and all. Such an expert.... this should be fun.



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